FLO to Ohio St…Offensive Co-ordinator
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LJ left becuase he was angry, BOB took the job because he is desperate. Either way everyone is nobody until they beat us, then maybe, and I say maybe are they worth the air we Lions fans breath
Yeah, we need Louis Freeh to investigate Hartline. He is killing us and is the only thing keeping them from becoming a dumpster fire
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12 years AFTER being a HC in the BIG he is now an OC in the BIG (or is it "co-OC" with Hartline?). this is a unique career path.
We just hired a former HC to be our DC. He’s replacing our previous DC, who was previously a HC also.
People also forget that he had a pretty good recruiting class lined up until the sanctions hit and then many began to look elsewhere. He also went into Iowa and handed them their a**es without mercy. Something the previous staff struggled mightily to do. And there were back to back wins vs Wisconsin, including on the road as a 20+ point underdog. Of course, there were some disappointing games, but overall, I thought he did an admirable job at a time where PSU football was toxic and there probably weren’t too many coaches willing to take the job. I can’t fault the guy for looking to get the best job he could.
Really? Wasn’t Bryce the #1 overall pick? Nobody’s hindering Bryce Young’s talent now. He stinks as a pro. I guess that’s Bill’s fault too.
Again ask the Alabama fans, i didn't have a problem with him, he inherited a mess here.
The good news is we can succinctly call the Buckeyes a "bunch of f@#&ers"
Frankly I think Franklin could care less.What a weird world we live in.
Im interested in the battle of offensive egos….Day vs O’Brien
It’s not a career move I would have made…the repeated self-demotion to college ball in hopes of NFL resurrection.
That said, Franklin “obviously” has to be a bit puckered at this news
11/2/2024 should be epic
Bill O’Brien’s offense vs Tom Allen’s Defense
Allen has a “very poor aptitude”. Notice how you didn’t mention any specifics to support that claim.
O’Brien intended to parlay the head coaching job at PSU into an NFL head coaching job from the minute he stepped on campus.
Never said he had any obligation to be loyal and don’t begrudge him from using Penn State as an NFL stepping stone. Just couldn’t stand his BS claim that he took the Texans job because of the JoeBots. Mr. Ego’s main problem is that he ain’t anywhere near as good a coach as he thinks he is.
As I said, there were some disappointments also. But, he kept the majority of the team intact and had winning seasons when the “experts” said it would take a decade or more for Penn State to recover.
And he never hid that from day 1. We should have known it. If people thought he was staying long term, that’s on them.
I was at that game. PSU ran out of gas in the 2nd half. Awful.
Anyone paying attention knew that FLO.
was going to bolt for an NFL job sooner rather than later. While in a PRESSER. at PSU, he referred to an NFL head coaching position as the ultimate job in football. He said it in a way that it was clear that he very much wanted to be an NFL head coach. OBVIOUSLY. he was an NFL guy just biding his time at PSU.
OSU's present O-coordinator, Hartline is staying on as co-offence coordinator and recruiting coordinator. He is an excellent recruiter.
OSU not giving up anything if they can both work together. The guy that is out of the mix is QB coach who is related to Urban Myer.
From the article I read he will remain on the staff at a position still tbd.
with OSU's portal haul, they will be hard to beat. Loss of Harrison will be their biggest drop off.
Bingo. He took the job that most likely not many else wanted. He did an admirable job and moved on. I’m not sure why people hold a grudge about this. According to some PSU insider media, at the time, he was working hard behind the scenes to help PSU get the sanctions reduced. Give the guy a little credit. He could have left town when the sanctions were handed down.Anyone paying attention knew that FLO.
You go get him tiger...awesome. 7 straight posts...BOB aka Flo lives rent free in that head of yours.
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totally agree that BOB got us through tough time much better than any expected. he was totally honest about being an NFL guy and that Penn State was not his dream job to end career. I feel we owe him for helping us.
What I do find unusual is that he recycled back to college with Nick as Bama OC then back to where he started with Billy B as OC. Now he is cycling back to college as a co-OC at a lower school than Bama. seems like he is sliding down further. if he is an NFL guy go for the OC jobs in the NFL not split role at tOSU. is the next move an FCS HC?
Bingo. BOB and the those cut throat trustees are cut from the same cloth. It was a marriage made in heaven.
The deal was simple. The scum bag trustees promised a home run hire. Every college coach they spoke too, hung up and laughed. THEN called their agents and parlayed the call into an extension. BY the time Judas followed the team to the bowl in Texas, it wasn't safe for him to leave his hotel room. In desperation, Tsar Ira turned to his buddy Jaws, who advised him to look to the NFL. Hence Greg Roman and Bill. Bill thought his superbowl run with the Pats would yield a NFL HC offer, it didn't. Even then there was some concern about his temperament. He was being replaced by Josh McDaniel as OC of the PATS..JM had actually been brought aboard to "assist" BOB during the playoff run. BOB was being demoted, at best and Ira and Judas were panicked. Both had reason to seal a deal.Anyone paying attention knew that FLO.
You may think I hate BOB, I really don't. He did okay. He served as a bridge of sorts. A pretty damn good X and O guy. But not equipped to be the face of PSU Football long term, personality wise.
The Patriots were going to fire O'Brien after the playoffs were over, pure and simple.
I think his hiring at PSU was a win-win, and his departure for Houston was a win for everyone except the Texans. He did a very good job at PSU and deserves a lot of credit for helping the program stay at a respectable level when many, myself included, thought it was destined for a long period of losing seasons. Like you, I don't hold a grudge against him; he was building a resume for his dream job of being an NFL HC. It wasn't personal, just business, and I'm not going to fault anyone for pursuing a goal if they do it with integrity. I don't think he was going to be happy or effective long term at PSU, so, in many ways, he was the perfect guy to follow Joe under the circumstances.
Looking at his post-PSU employment history, I doubt he'll be at tOSU for long. He's a very good coach who thinks he's a great one, and doesn't seem to have the personality to endear himself to others for long, particularly those who don't share his view of his coaching skills.
Perfectly stated. PSU wasn't a top 10-15 job during that time period if people are being honest. Nobody was running through that door. The rumor of Meyer to PSU was out there until that scandal broke...then it was never going to happen. It was a huge dark cloud to be honest and I get that fans have issue with him leaving, but saying money is some awful reason to leave is hysterical or loyalty to recruits....what sport do they follow? How many people on this site have turned down 7 figure pay raises....going with .00000001%. The whole OB saga was a crap show and that isn't all on him...not even most of it to be honest. The admin and the NCAA made it impossible for anyone with an option to stay if we're being honest....minus a "PSU" guy. Your comments on him not being there long term are probably pretty accurate as well.
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This doesn't add up; his contract was loaded with protections in the event of underperformance (and re-structured from 9 to 4 years with a lower buyout so he could jump if he wanted). He knew sanctions were a possibilityHe was also less than two years in when the NCAA announced they were going to be adding scholarships and a return to post-season games. The craziest thing about O'Brien's contract is that at it's height, he was paid $2.3mm a year.
O'Brien in August of 2012:
“We have to understand that we all chose to be here,’’ said O’Brien. “We came in here with our eyes wide open. Now, did we think the NCAA sanctions would be as harsh as they were? No, I’d be a liar to tell you that, and when they came out they were very harsh.
“But at the end of the day, we chose to be here.’’
Coach of the Year with a 8-4 record (probably underperformed given the roster talent that stayed) and finished 2nd in the division in 2012. Franklin inherited the worst of the sanctions (with scholarship reductions amounting to serious depth issues); OB popped in, rode the backs of Mauti & Co., and bailed (and got Penn State to help him with contract adjustments).
O'Brien after 2012:
"I'm not a one-and-done guy. I made a commitment to these players at Penn State and that's what I am going to do. I'm not gonna cut and run after one year, that's for sure."
But after two years?
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I’m not sure why some folks think he owed PSU something? He had a bad situation get worse and had a better offer. This idea that coaches while taking a job or while the ink isn’t dry will say otherwise is funny to me. Joe, Beamer, and Bowden were the end of that era. People don’t generally advertise they are looking around while interviewing. This saga is over, but sorry not sorry I’m not putting him on a pedestal or slamming him over this stuff. He was a bridge at a bad time. People need to let this go or don’t I guess.
Oh, he didn't. Except that everything he said indicated he knew what he was getting into and was prepared to deal with it for at least the length of his first contract. I think it's the outright lying that people don't like, but whatever. He's a good coach. Despite getting fired at Texas he won the division four times in six years. This will help OSU and really, they don't need it. Wonder if OB was considered for the PSU job?
I doubt he would return or even field that call from PSU. I still don’t understand how people who profess to be fans of the sport still take these coaches at their word anymore. You expect them to come in and say yeah this is my gig until I find another one? UF fans are still pissed Meyer left. Saban told LSU fans he was going nowhere 2 days before he bailed. Franklin told his Vandy players he was staying and he loved them before he bailed and raided their recruiting class. I guess different coaches get treated differently by many. Being the man to follow Joe during that time wasn’t some great gig IMO. Others may feel differently and that is just fine.
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