For the Golfers on the Board what are your thoughts of the LIV business model vs the PGA Business model?
- Thread starter Mr. Potter
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Seriously? How many has the LIV tour killed? If you are talking innocent deaths the Americans have bumped off a view. Now I am not comparing the Saudi’s to us but you can’t blame a f’kn golf tour. Of course you men of principal have no Chinese products right?
Those that signed for the large bonus are pretty much on the backside of their careers. Phil probably was not going to win again in the PGA, even in this LIV field he was somewhere around 15 in the standings. So yeah, it’s all about the money that he will never see in the PGA.
Yeah, but they may run out of eligibility for the majors since they are not earning any points towards them. Some are invitation only so they are conditional on being picked and since they aren’t on PGA tour they may not get invited.
This is in some ways exactly the point. Professional athletes in most major sports get paid regardless of their performance. It is not the case with the PGA tour.
Why? What's the human rights record of the CCP? It's brutal. Yet most of us continue to buy made in China.
I know of a pretty prominent person about to visit Saudi Arabia to schmooze. Interesting times we live in.
You don’t support the NBA? You are against the Champions League Soccer? Pleas be consistent.
So ask yourselves this. If you are still working would you work for a Saudi or Chinese company if the business had 0 to do with politics. Maybe a hotel chain or a cruise line AND they offered you 50 times your current salary just to sign up and then a salary that is double what you earn today. If your answer is no way they have corrupt governments feel free to be against the LIV. If not check your comments on the hypocrisy meter. This what they do for a living not just to entertain us
So as another poster stated we know what you are we are just deciding on the price.
What is the okay amount to be worth that would allow you guys to be okay with it?
False analogy. There is a tiny difference: The Saudis are doing it just to distract people like you from their record on human rights. It is political. The event is very high profile to achieve this distraction. It’s global pr for the Saudi rulers. So I would not assist them in that distraction.
Would you work for Hitler or Mao to polish his image?
That's dumb. The NBA and the Champions League aren't being propped up my a multi-billion dollar government investment fund. I personally don't care where anyone plays golf. More power to those guys if they want to cash big checks. But for them to talk in circles and act oblivious is ridiculous. I wouldn't doubt if their contracts prohibit them from criticizing the Saudi government. Oil money can buy a lot of things, including silence.
Business model? LIV Tour? Doesn't a business actually have to generate enough income to begin offsetting expenses to be considered as such? I'm thinking the LIV Tour is more like one giant loss leader for other enterprises.......
I've got no problem with these guys, they are independent contractors, no clue about the business model. I think the PGA has been much like the NCAA for yrs and now they don't particularly like having to spend and spread more $ around. I'll more than likely catch some of both.
Are you serious? I simply can not imagine anyone's opinion of Saudi Arabia changes because of a golf tour. How many of the bombers from 9/11 were from SA? And for 20 years since then we have kissed their ***. You guys should focus your energy on why our President will be on his hands and knees with lips puckered begging for oil rather than a golf league that is going to make a bunch of rich guys richer. The hypocrisy is unbelievable. Brooks K is bad because someone wants to pay him millions to play golf but because we want cheaper gas or cheap clothes from China we look the other way.
BTW what does LIV stand for? yea me neither, If folks weren't screeching about this who would know it is a Saudi backed league. How is that good PR?
So they are paying absolutely stupid money. Joe 6 pack says that is because the f'n price of oil is $120. How is that good PR?
The biggest gain in “not spending” is for the charities that benefit from the PGA events (over 3 billion dollars worth to date).
This weekend I'm more intrigued with the first LIV tournament in the states then I am with the John Deere Classic. So I'll be watching LIV on YouTube.
Interesting that if the Saudis did this to distract from human rights issues - it seems to have done the opposite since it brought their record back into the media and the public consciousness. Was not really thinking about it until the LIV Tour was in the news.
You are dense. No one gets to choose where their gas comes from. And everybody knows what liv is - a SA pr move to lend a murdering monarchy legitimacy, even you, hypocrite/philistine. It’s already working judging by your comments.
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"nobody gets to choose where their gas from"
. well as a country that isn't entirely true
. as an individual how many cars and what kind of cars do you drive
ask ten people tomorrow what LIV is and what does it stand for. - then get back to me on the successful PR effort
You were speaking about people looking the other way while buying gas. Nobody buys gas “as a country”.
When they hold the tournament in SA, they will know what LIV means.
LIV - 54 in Roman numerals...the amount of holes they play each tourney. I don't know what the Arabic word for 'shotgun start' is.
As wrong as it is, this did make me laugh today…
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