Franklin to AD and Rhule to HFC

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Why - because people are calling for Franklin after 8 years?

Let’s give Matt five years. I would bet dimes to donuts that Penn State will not get bullied around their home field by Illinois. Or make egregious mental errors. l - starting in year 1.
Looks like the return of Jockstrap John
 

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Seems to be settling in as a .500 coach with teams that lack toughness.

Of course what I proposed in our in the sky. A more realistic alternative would be Franklin being dismissed outright. He has underperformed and team play on field, where games are won, is regressing.

That said, Franklin sees like a good guy and perhaps he would make a good AD. Again, could anyone be worse than Sandy?
Franklin's buyout is 7.5 million x 9 years after this season. That sounds like a "realistic alternative."
 

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Why - because people are calling for Franklin after 8 years?

Let’s give Matt five years. I would bet dimes to donuts that Penn State will not get bullied around their home field by Illinois. Or make egregious mental errors. l - starting in year 1.
Yeah and Rhule walks on water right? Probably will be available next year since he is doing such a "terrific" job in Carolina.
 

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Why - because people are calling for Franklin after 8 years?

Let’s give Matt five years. I would bet dimes to donuts that Penn State will not get bullied around their home field by Illinois. Or make egregious mental errors. l - starting in year 1.

You’re going to need a sh|tload of dimes.
 

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What’s hate? Sandy has proven to be a spend-happy incompetent at two major institutions. She should be immediately terminated.
Before her , tell me what sports, that people give a shite about, were we better at. And, I still think if it was a straight man as AD, you could give a crap.
 

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Before her , tell me what sports, that people give a shite about, were we better at. And, I still think if it was a straight man as AD, you could give a crap.
Then tell me which of the coaches for sports which "people give a shite about" she hired. I'll spot you Shrewsberry.
 

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Hmmm, so Sandy is solely responsible for CJF's contract extension.....and no one else (BOT subcommittee on compensation) had to approve?
Not solely responsible. But that is a core part of her job description. And what would lead you to believe the BOT has a clue? Have you seen the University’s Academic rankings plummet while tuition has skyrocketed since the dynamic duo had been in place?

Am I counting you in as a Sandy admirer? She has placed PSU firmly on the same type of path she placed Cal. An unmitigated disaster.
 
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Congrats for making the big time!!

Only because I am so nice. Franklin has actually earned a dismissal. The AD position would be a face-saver (and any living, breathing creature would be an improvement over SB).

Just think if someone on a message board a few years back said hire “Barren and Sandy.” They would have been correct and would have been probably the worst two hires in all USA Universities (just check their records via the numbers).

I’ll take my suggestions any day of the week.
 

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Only because I am so nice. Franklin has actually earned a dismissal. The AD position would be a face-saver (and any living, breathing creature would be an improvement over SB).

Just think if someone on a message board a few years back said hire “Barren and Sandy.” They would have been correct and would have been probably the worst two hires in all USA Universities (just check their records via the numbers).

I’ll take my suggestions any day of the week.
I did think you were being generous. There are plenty of posters here, many of whom I really respect, who want CJF outright fired. There was much breast beating, hair pulling, and gnashing of teeth on this board when he got his extension. As far as I can recall, your OP is the first to suggest a non-HFBC role at PSU for CJF.

Up to now I haven’t bothered posting in this thread because I try to follow the wise words of the great mathematician G H Hardy: “It is never worth an intelligent man’s time to express a majority opinion. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.” It’s pretty unanimous here that your OP should take up permanent residence in the “Not Happening” file. I concur.
 
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As long As I live the 6 to 4 loss to Iowa will always be the worst game I ever watched No other game will ever come close
1974 Navy Home
L 6-7
1983 Cincinnati Home
L 14-3
2000 Toledo Home
L 23-6
to name a few. I sat through the Navy game in the rain. 5 fumbles. I was at the Iowa game as well. There were several other disappointing losses that I could have included.
 
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Not solely responsible. But that is a core part of her job description. And what would lead you to believe the BOT has a clue? Have you seen the University’s Academic rankings plummet while tuition has skyrocketed since the dynamic duo had been in place?

Am I counting you in as a Sandy admirer? She has placed PSU firmly on the same type of path she placed Cal. An unmitigated disaster.
At least you are consistent.
 

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Only because I am so nice. Franklin has actually earned a dismissal. The AD position would be a face-saver (and any living, breathing creature would be an improvement over SB).

Just think if someone on a message board a few years back said hire “Barren and Sandy.” They would have been correct and would have been probably the worst two hires in all USA Universities (just check their records via the numbers).

I’ll take my suggestions any day of the week.
No he hasn't earned a dismissal. Thank goodness you can scope out any ex coach with PSU ties and think he's the fixer. Maybe he can get Golden away from ND and Jay as his OC too.

Look at these eye popping numbers.
NFL: 10–23 (.303) NCAA: 47–43 (.522) Bowls: 1–2 (.333)

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Let me help you here. Women and gay people are now in leadership roles. Deal with it.
There ya' go. Can't answer the question so deflect to something irrelevant. Don't care about an AD's gender or sexual preference, just performance. So back to the question, which coach has she hired that's a world beater?
 

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There ya' go. Can't answer the question so deflect to something irrelevant. Don't care about an AD's gender or sexual preference, just performance. So back to the question, which coach has she hired that's a world beater?
Tommy Bowden
 

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There ya' go. Can't answer the question so deflect to something irrelevant. Don't care about an AD's gender or sexual preference, just performance. So back to the question, which coach has she hired that's a world beater?
Good God. Why are you and your like so pissed?? What's wrong? When a position becomes available in a sport that matters, I'll let you know. Exclude Football, Wrestling and MBBall, what the hell else are you talking about?? What sport do you need to be so much better that's getting your undies all bunched up? Just stop hatin on people.
 

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I just wonder where everyone will be if (when?) PSU reels off another 7-6 season in 2022. The sunshine pumpers will declare that “next year is the year” of course.
 
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Good God. Why are you and your like so pissed?? What's wrong? When a position becomes available in a sport that matters, I'll let you know. Exclude Football, Wrestling and MBBall, what the hell else are you talking about?? What sport do you need to be so much better that's getting your undies all bunched up? Just stop hatin on people.

I'm the one that's pissed? Did you read what you wrote before hitting the "Post Reply" button? Don't know what it is I'm doing, but I think I'll just keep on doing it.
 

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No he hasn't earned a dismissal. Thank goodness you can scope out any ex coach with PSU ties and think he's the fixer. Maybe he can get Golden away from ND and Jay as his OC too.

Look at these eye popping numbers.
NFL: 10–23 (.303) NCAA: 47–43 (.522) Bowls: 1–2 (.333)

Get Low Duck GIF by Tennis TV
Agree to disagree. After 8 years, the program is mired in mediocrity. The primary issue? Franklin’s teams are soft.

He does recruit well, but games are won on field. There he is very lacking with head scratching game management coupled with the propensity for his teams to get pushed around. Even by the likes of Villanova.
 

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Agree to disagree. After 8 years, the program is mired in mediocrity. The primary issue? Franklin’s teams are soft.

He does recruit well, but games are won on field. There he is very lacking with head scratching game management coupled with the propensity for his teams to get pushed around. Even by the likes of Villanova.
That's fine, PSU was also went to 3 NYD 6 bowl games in 4 years and won a BT title in that stretch, so while the last 2 years were disappointing...and they were, your opinions are pretty much off base and not grounded in reality. Not to mention the recruiting haul he just pulled in, but lets just keep up bring up Rhule whos numbers are actually **** but he had Joe connections so some PSU fans put him on a pedestal. He's not even a .500 coach, but you want to talk about mediocrity which would be a step up for Rhule.
 
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That's fine, PSU was also went to 3 NYD 6 bowl games in 4 years and won a BT title in that stretch, so while the last 2 years were disappointing...and they were, your opinions are pretty much off base and not grounded in reality. Not to mention the recruiting haul he just pulled in, but lets just keep up bring up Rhule whos numbers are actually **** but he had Joe connections so some PSU fans put him on a pedestal. He's not even a .500 coach, but you want to talk about mediocrity which would be a step up for Rhule.
A significant # of resident experts here are of the "what have you done for me lately...." ilk. They cried when we went to the Cotton instead of the Rose....they bitched when we went 11-2 and 11-3.....No one is happy with the past two seasons. But the BWICAC is NEVER happy.
 
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I'm the one that's pissed? Did you read what you wrote before hitting the "Post Reply" button? Don't know what it is I'm doing, but I think I'll just keep on doing it.
Just keep hatin, whining, complaining, and pissin. Franklin is staying. Sandy is staying. Deal with it.
 

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Agree to disagree. After 8 years, the program is mired in mediocrity. The primary issue? Franklin’s teams are soft.

He does recruit well, but games are won on field. There he is very lacking with head scratching game management coupled with the propensity for his teams to get pushed around. Even by the likes of Villanova.
Certainly hard to argue the soft remark. Toughness does not seem to be a trait of his teams here and I hate that.
 
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A significant # of resident experts here are of the "what have you done for me lately...." ilk. They cried when we went to the Cotton instead of the Rose....they bitched when we went 11-2 and 11-3.....No one is happy with the past two seasons. But the BWICAC is NEVER happy.
A significant # of our resident experts here are happy with anything. They make excuses for Indiana, Illinois, Villanova, Michigan State, Ohio State, Michigan games over a number of years and seem to be fine with a team of Penn State’s resources that continues to be pushed around the field, make mental mistakes and coaching mistakes, and does not even seem to be interested in playing football - choosing instead to opt out.

Perhaps we should not be surprised as such lack of accountability is the hallmark of academia.

Probably why JoePa stood out so much as an exception to such acceptance of mediocrity.
 

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That's fine, PSU was also went to 3 NYD 6 bowl games in 4 years and won a BT title in that stretch, so while the last 2 years were disappointing...and they were, your opinions are pretty much off base and not grounded in reality. Not to mention the recruiting haul he just pulled in, but lets just keep up bring up Rhule whos numbers are actually **** but he had Joe connections so some PSU fans put him on a pedestal. He's not even a .500 coach, but you want to talk about mediocrity which would be a step up for Rhule.
Is this the “recruiting haul” that will put us over the top? After 8 years, Penn State can not even control the line of scrimmage against Villanova? Or they get thoroughly dominated in then trenches, at home, by Illinois? When will Franklin get this rectified? Year 17? My opinions are off base? Yiubare in denial. And after the last two years of debacles, Penn State is looking down the gun barrel of a third straight year of mediocrity and underachievement.
 

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Is this the “recruiting haul” that will put us over the top? After 8 years, Penn State can not even control the line of scrimmage against Villanova? Or they get thoroughly dominated in then trenches, at home, by Illinois? When will Franklin get this rectified? Year 17? My opinions are off base? Yiubare in denial. And after the last two years of debacles, Penn State is looking down the gun barrel of a third straight year of mediocrity and underachievement.
oh, the horror
 

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Is this the “recruiting haul” that will put us over the top? After 8 years, Penn State can not even control the line of scrimmage against Villanova? Or they get thoroughly dominated in then trenches, at home, by Illinois? When will Franklin get this rectified? Year 17? My opinions are off base? Yiubare in denial. And after the last two years of debacles, Penn State is looking down the gun barrel of a third straight year of mediocrity and underachievement.

So you just skip over where he had success in the 8 years.....makes sense. Doesn't appear you can analyze the whole picture which is fine. My issue with him was the annual flirtation and yes he did take a step back the last 2 years, but putting him to AD and hiring a coach who isn't .500 surely seems pretty odd to me....to each their own. Good fantasy you had, but I do like reality better.
 
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A bit off topic from the original post. I have said before, when Coach ends his coaching career, IMHO he would be an outstanding commissioner of any conference or even the NFL. CJF pays a lot of attention to, and studies, emerging issues, and he is usually a little bit ahead of the curve in identifying rules, regulations, etc, that need to be changed. You can see that now in his push to have the Big drop to 8 conference games. I think he would be excellent in such a role; far better than they guy currently serving as Big Commissioner.
Not a chance that he would get a sniff at the NFL - zero.
 
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