ND voted for the current 5+7 format. They don't really have the "go along to get along" reputation. They agreed to put themselves in a disadvantage for a reason.
FSU vs ACC
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It wasn't that cut and dry. They knew they had issues, but they were a little blind sided by the vote happening when it did. They thought they had time to cure it. And by then, they had already been admitted to the B1G. NEB had been in the AAU for 102 years. They were booted bc their medical facility is off campus, and they're heavily involved in ag research, which the AAU doesn't value.
I think King is spot on. They're less likely take such a risk based on what happened with NEB.
I read the same article. All I know is how I can recall it happening at the time. Again, if AAU status was an absolute, dead-set, non-negotiable requirement to be in the Big 10, why would they vote someone in when they knew their status was in doubt? The answer is: they did it because they thought Nebraska added value and it was worth the gamble. Whatever value they thought they could get by adding Nebraska at the time, multiply that by 100 for value they can get from adding FSU, on top of which it gives them a foothold in the heart of SEC country.
If UNC and UVA go to the BIG, it would not shock me one bit to see the SEC go for new markets through NC State and Virginia Tech.
Add FSU and Clemson and you can get two- 10-school divisions, if that's wanted.
Add FSU and Clemson and you can get two- 10-school divisions, if that's wanted.
CU will not get an invitation to join the B1G....period. UNC will get an invitation and so will either Miami or FSU(?).
About 6/7 of UNDs biggest rivals are now in the B1G.....and the B1G is looking to add one more. Plus, I've understood that UNDs administrators want a share of the BTAA research funding. Also, the B1G has a TV contract with UNDs media partner, the ACC nor the SEC do.
Not true. They are still the top university for agricultural research in the country and they have a top-notch medical school that does cancer research. The problem was that AAU put less emphasis on ag research and more emphasis on having your medical school where the main campus of the universlity is located.....Nebraska's medical school is in Omaha not Lincoln. They will more than likely be reinvited within the next 5 years.
The main reason I don't think FSU will get an invite....they were close but didn't make it. UND and Miami finally made it after being close for a number of years.
What are your thoughts on what I stated above: if UNC and UVA go to the BIG, the SEC goes after new markets through NC State and Virginia Tech?
The B1G wasn't going to bring them in as a non-football member.....the ACC was the only conference willing to make that offer. UND does play in the B1G for men's hockey.
Yeah, whatever. I'd just love for ND to stroll in and tell FSU to STFU and sit in the back. "Ain't nobody goin nowhere, you hear me??!!"
I've always thought that would be a possibility.....IIRC UVA was invited at the same time Maryland was and turned the B1G down. From what I've heard, the B1G is more concentrated on UNC and Miami who have been more approachable (for lack of a better term).
Interesting. I wonder if the UVA folks are now kicking themselves in the rear end?
Well....they would be "safe" now and UMD had to make some concessions that I don't remember being put on UVA....such as participating as a full-share member out of the gate.
I do not know anything about the loopholes or the Perry Mason legality to this lawsuit, but I believe that Florida State has a secret agreement to join another conference . Otherwise Florida State would not go all through this inconvenience.
You would think. I would really be shocked if they didn’t.
Umm, about that, FSU (by most accounts is in the next round ) Miami, GT and right next door UNC. That is in SEC territory and AAU.
B1G will not have to forgo or even acquiesce the AAU requirement.
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I'm not saying a categorical "no". I am saying that they are going to be able to do way better than Florida State in the short term in ways that matter most to the Big 10.
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UND has no incentive to join the ACC....if they did they already would have. And FSU especially has no reason to stay in the conference....none...and they will act in their own best interest, much like UND.
Why do people believe that for all the conferences this expansion is solely about athletics? Do they not realize that the B1G has ALWAYS been as much about academics as it ever was about athletics. They are not the same as the SEC.
I believe if I was the Big 10 I attempt a pre-emptive strike and invite FSU,UNC,Ga Tech,and Virginia to join.I’d rather have Virginia than Miami.Strong academic schools except FSU and gives you a foothold into Fla,Ga,NC, and Virginia.
The question would be Miami or FSU.To me Miami a better fit than FSU.FSU seems like a Big 12 school to me.
If geography wasn't an issue, every single conference in the country would take NEB over FSU.
I believe from all I've heard that at least 3 of those schools already have landing spots and tentative agreements have been made.
Nebraska brought in tons of research money to the conference due to its ag school standing. Mizzou was the other candidate and they still are a member of the AAU.
So, since this FSU vs ACC, ACC vs FSU litigation is expected to last 12-24 months, does anyone care to make a over/under
prediction to the number of pages on this thread ?
If everyone stays engaged, I think 100 is relatively safe.
prediction to the number of pages on this thread ?
If everyone stays engaged, I think 100 is relatively safe.
100 easy!! LolSo, since this FSU vs ACC, ACC vs FSU litigation is expected to last 12-24 months, does anyone care to make a over/under
prediction to the number of pages on this thread ?
If everyone stays engaged, I think 100 is relatively safe.
To me that scenario only works if you buy into the “footprint” theory over eyes and views. I don’t believe the first will be as much of a driver in the future. Matchups is the driver in my opinion at least as it pertains to football.
Monetary value need not equate to desirability, which is the more operative value in this situation.
How do you measure desirability? Is it viewership? Hard to really compare the most recent year bc FSU had a really good year and NE didn’t. Last year NE averaged 2.39 million per game. From 2015-2019 (similar suckage) FSU had 2.23.
Besides the fact that, as a member of the B1G, Nebraska automatically and annually plays a more attractive and telegenic schedule than FSU, right now, I measure desirability by the degree to which someone would be willing to beguile either one of these to leave their present league to move to another league.
Depends on the conference and the individual schools. Desireability is not limited to one individual idea.
I agree. Just looking for anything tangible that says FSU is more valuable.