Game thread for game vs Florida
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So if there success is all Hooker, how will they not be worse than us since you have harped on Huepel running UCF into the crapper.
Which one is it, you talk out of both sides of your mouth. If Huepel is that bad we should easily surpass them since it’s all Hooker. Now give me your cya answer with option 3!
Here's a link to their schedule, you argue which games you like the best.
2022 Football Schedule - Ole Miss Athletics - Hotty Toddy
The official 2022 Football schedule for the Ole Miss Rebels
I'll stick with CFP, AP and coaches poll ranking them differently than you would.
“Very good” defenses don’t give up 700 yards, they just don’t.
Here's a link to their schedule, you argue which games you like the best.
2022 Football Schedule - Ole Miss Athletics - Hotty Toddy
The official 2022 Football schedule for the Ole Miss Rebelsolemisssports.com
I'll stick with CFP, AP and coaches poll ranking them differently than you would.
That what I thought.
That your opinion isn't shared by those that make the polls? That's what I thought too. That's why I said it.
Kiffin and company would boat race Beamer and company, not even debatable.
That’s why he could never be a pollster, his views are so out of the norm of knowledgeable football followers.
They will not be as good next year. How far they drop is yet to be seen. Has nothing to do with us. Two entirely different subjects.
Nope. That's what I thought. That you won't name their best win because it is no better than our best win.
Overrated.
So Huepel, without Hooker, will or won’t send them in the crapper? You are something else, say something crazy, get confronted with facts and deflect deflect deflect….
Nope. I know no matter what I say you'll whine about.
And I'll pass your "educated" opinion on to the pollsters who I'm sure will give it its proper consideration.
Except that it began as a comparison of us and them, given the coaches started at the same time, and took over similar messes.
This just tells me you know that huepel won't "sink" anywhere near to our level.
As you say, has nothing to do with KY or TAM, would they boat race us or not? Could Beamer and his cast of characters keep it within 3 scores, you know that answer!
Yea he conveniently forgets that little nugget. UT was in equal or worse shape than us and just goes to show what a leader can do quickly! The spread between us and UT is laughable now in less than two years.
You will see. Even with Hooker, they got destroyed by Georgia. Without Hooker, they will be nothing special.
No, they weren't. You don't know what you are talking about. Heupel inherited Hooker and benched him for another 4 star QB he brought in. He had 2 experienced QBs to start the season last year. We were started a grad student coach that had no idea he would be playing against 3 weeks before the season started.
Yet that just means they will still be light years better than us. If they will be nothing special how would you describe Beamers third year. This I gotta hear!!!
They lost half their damn team, you don’t know what you are talking about. Huepel has filled it with transfers and done a million times better job of that then Beamer has.
You have a hard time keeping up. I don’t care who their best win is, I and 99% of the college football world and VEGAS knows if we played we would be 20 point dogs. FACT! You refuse to answer my question of who would win because it chaps your ***.
He has to forget a lot of things to keep the rants up, the way he does.
First it was that UT had so much more talent, then that was proven wrong with actual recruiting rankings.
Then he got lucky with Hooker who was just "phenominal" at VT. Then that got proven wrong with his actual stats.
Then it was that Huepel is a liar and destroys programs, just wait till Hooker is gone. But you can see him backpedaling from that too now, with the vague "nothing special" comment.
You just know that anything less than 11 wins each season in the upcoming regular seasons will be heralded as proof he was "right".
Of course, and I’m waiting with baited breath to hear if UT will be nothing special in year 3 of Huepel then what he thinks will we be.
Yes I do know what I am talking about. They lost of lot of players, but reloaded immediately. Tennessee is an easier sell that South Carolina. Most players would choose Tennessee over South Carolina. Hell, their best receiver is from Irmo.
And he had 2 experienced QBs ready to go. We pulled a coach in to play 3 weeks before the season.
Liar. I never said he was "phenominal" at VT. Just better than any QB when have had here since Connor Shaw. Stats proved that.
And I'm not backpedaling on anything. Heupel tanked UCF. I never said he would "destroy" Tennessee. Just that their success is Hooker and not Heupel.
You are a habitual liar.
So will Huepel have more success at UT than Beamer will here, that’s a simple yes/no question, no dissertation needed.
And he is a liar. He took over an undefeated team and took it to 6 wins, then claimed it built it "from the bottom up".
Not to argue but a team can be overrated and WELL COACHED. Kiffin can flat out coach. It's that simple. And we should have hired him. We should have given him Texas A&M $$$$ - made him the highest paid coach in CFB and we'd be off to the races but instead we have a coaching staff that when it's 3rd and inches - we put in the smallest RB in the world and lose 4 yards. (JuJu) - Good Lord, just put in a 300 lb lineman at FB and get us 2 yards. Fall forward essentially. I'm very upset right now. Sorry.
He was NEVER coming here. He waited for a better option. Just like several coaches. These coaches know that this is a tough job that could jeopardize their career long term. And now, with NIL, it will be even worse. The best coaches will go to the places that can buy the best players.
And again, named Kiffin's best win this year.
Again, not to argue but - what is NIL? - Now *TOO argue* > I do not care what you say , I am telling you flat out that if you offer X coach the highest paid contract in CFB history, *THEY WILL COME HERE* / period. It's always about the $$$$. --- As far as your argument about Kiffin's best win this year - I can't. I don't keep up with their schedule. So by default / I concede your point there.
I do know if not for a freak turnover / they would have beaten Bama tonight. But if's buts and coconuts, I get it. That 1 turnover cost them that game tonight. We can revisit this in about 3 years but IMHO - 3 years from now, Ole Miss will be the team to beat in the West. Bama is clearly on the decline as far as bell curves are concerned. Kids wanna play for Kiffin. And I'd like to throw this in there > If you recall Kiffin was *NOT* on the sidelines calling plays for Bama in the Natty game and Bama lost that game when they really had no business losing that game. Saban thought they could get the job done without Kiffin - and that decision cost Saban yet another Natty. With Kiffin on the sidelines that night calling the plays, Bama has yet another Natty but Saban is hard headed and the results (L) speaks for itself.
What's his face - Noodle Lame coach at LSU ain't gonna work out. He's a fish out of water. He has no business coaching an SEC team, especially LSU. Saban is getting older and on the down trend of the bell curve with Bama. Auburn has a ways to go..... A *REASONABLE* bet would be Old Miss in about 3 years. Assuming Kiffin can cheat and stay out of hot water with the NCAA. He'll have Ole Miss rolling for top spot in the west. JMHO. I'm not going to argue with you anymore. You have a great night and we'll see in about 3 years time. Ok? Fair enough?
No, it's not a simple yes or no question. Tennessee is a better program that South Carolina. Given equal coaches, the coach of Tennessee will historically do better. This isn't Beamer vs Heupel. This is Heupel vs Hooker.
But this year with Hooker will be Heupel's best year. Wait and see.
So you assume Beamer and Huepel are equal coaches? Time will tell, just wait and see you will be disappointed.
You do realize that the guy you think won't work out in the SEC won the SEC West tonight and will be in the SEC championship game after destroying Ole Miss by 25 a few weeks ago. I don't like him, but he is already successful in year one.
And Kiffin's best win this year is probably Kentucky.
But yes, we will see in 3 years. Fair enough.
That's not what I said. My point was that success at Tennessee is much easier than success at South Carolina. Heupel may turn out to be a better coach than Beamer after Hooker is gone, but him being more successful at Tennessee than Beamer at South Carolina won't prove it.
Yes, I realize that. And in the SECCG - UGA will handle business and once again, Noodle Lame ex coach will be on the outside looking in of the CFB playoffs. When I say he won't work out what I mean is - he doesn't belong in the SEC. An analogy would be Mike Tyson coaching competitive yoga classes in Alaska. It just doesn't "fit" ...... and LSU fans won't put up with him long and then he'll be gone. Hopefully forever or coaching some garbage Montana St type team. He couldn't get it done at Noodle Lame and he won't get it done at LSU either. JMHO. We'll see. Good banter back and forth. I appreciate you / that. We'll see. I just don't see him getting LSU over the hump to a Natty. Heck he couldn't get BAMA a Natty if he was coaching there. I believe the man is a fraud. A fraud with guts - but a fraud all the same. We'll see. Peace brother.
Actually, you quoted Rileycock's post saying he was phenominal and said "yep". Semantics, I know, but I also know you'll go to your grave arguing semantics rather than admit you were wrong.
And you have a funny definition of "liar". It would help if you used the normal definition everyone else follows.