If there is an obvious top 5 hire, the university is willing to shell out top dollar to get him and his staff, and donors will cover the buyout, then fire Franklin tomorrow. Otherwise, the reality is Lanning isn’t leaving Oregon and a top NFL coordinator isn’t going to jump ship for a college job and all the NIL/transfer BS.
Get Rid of Franklin
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Year 3-5 there's hope he "gets it"... he's not magically going to get it in year 10, or 12, or 14.
He is who he is.
The best we can hope for is to overcome that tendency to drop one he shouldn't ala Pitt, Minnesota, or Iowa in years we might have been playoff caliber.
10-2 puts us on the bubble without a quality win.
Stupid, undisciplined penalties by preening, selfish players who think everything is about them are not only game killers, but season killers. Dude should have been put on the bench immediately.
Really? What game were you watching? That's a PF penalty everyday of the week.
James "Rabbit-eared and mentally weak" Franklin did the same thing at the end of the 2018 Ohio State game.
He's literally shown ZERO growth in SIX years.
I see your point, except wonder why tosu’s players were “taunting” every bit as much as #9 was, and SURPRISE…no flag!! Ryan Day would have the same record at PSU as Franklin does…he just has a deeper arsenal of weapons because they invest in their program far better than we do. I’m not a huge fan of how much money is in the sport (though I’m glad the kids are getting more than they used to), but here we are.
Not true, the Apollo Creed style ding-ding with the bell was a step up in his troll game
Absolutely spot on. Day doesn’t have to be as good as others because his cabinets are deeper.
Bob: I think you have good points about both the buyout of Franklin, et al being a financial albatross and the question of who PSU could get that is an improvement on Franklin.
But I have to say that I am finally convinced that a change needs to come. Franklin just does not seem capable of winning big games, and he seems to make some really questionable decisions in big games. (Like not calling timeout in the last minute before the end of the first half, when we were going for it on fourth down, and, especially, running the ball straight up the middle three straight times when we had first and goal at the tOSU 2 or 3 yard line.) We had exactly zero offensive touchdowns. I can't put all of that on Kotelnicki.
PSU football strikes me, right now, as the CFB equivalent of "The Little Train that Couldn't." We just can't get to the top of the hill, and it seems like that is never gonna change with Franklin in charge.
I have always defended him to date, and would readily admit that going 10-2 is nothing to sneeze at. But I have to ask you: Would you prefer to: (1) continue going 10-2 forever and never getting to the top of the hill (which I regard as beating tOSU and either winning the national championship or going deep in the CFB playoffs); or (2) taking a chance on a new coach who might just get PSU to the top of the hill, even if the downside risk is we have a couple of crappy seasons? I can tell you that I would readily choose Option 2. I have had enough of Option 1. PSU deserves better than this, IMHO, and should certainly aspire to better than this.
I don't think anything should be done until the end of the season at the earliest, but if Franklin has his agent dangle his name in front of another school again, I would favor not doing anything about it. Nor would I favor any further extensions until and unless Franklin changes the equation, which I don't see happening.
Mmmmmm, not sure sure. I’ve see plenty of stopovers that weren’t called. I think his natural momentum partially cased the step over.
I dont know if anything was said or not. I’m sure there is chattering all game long.
That’s coaching that’s culture
It was a risk to do it. He could have been called for it or not. He took the risk. He got flagged. They got 7. The risk wasn’t worth it.
Auburn had this choice 4 years ago with Gus Malzahn....who actually went to a nat'l championship game but otherwise had a worse record than Big Game James
Check out Auburn's record the last 4 years and be careful what you wish for
Officials let a lot of jawing back and forth go. For whatever reason, stepping over another player (while also likely saying something derogatory) is forbidden and always flagged. Many will point out Howard should have been flagged on his last run when he pointed first down and made contact with a PSU player while doing it. But that would have made zero difference if it had because the 1st down was already made.
Unfortunately paying kids, handsomely in many cases, has fostered in this type of nonsense. It drives me CRAZY watching it. These kids have yet to win anything yet they think the game and world revolves around them. The stupid necklace celebrations, etc. are ridiculous.
Even the announcers didn’t think the kid taunted. He got up over him, but that happens when players fall down on top of each other. Point is, in a tight ballgame, unless it’s blatant, then why throw the flag unless you’re trying to help one of the teams. I hate that playing tosu turns me into a raving conspiracy theorist, but dammit, **** like this happens so frequently that it just gives me pause.
I think it was the next play he bit on a move and got burned. Lucky for him Howard threw the wide open receiver out of bounds.
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Unfortunately,
When colleges have a salary cap,
Players would receive additional money through the “Bag Man” tradition
Alright, let’s stop the grab-a$$.
Let’s stop the Franklin bashing.
Who are better coaches than Franklin who might come to Penn State? Let’s start a list.
Lance Leipold?
Who else?
Let’s stop the Franklin bashing.
Who are better coaches than Franklin who might come to Penn State? Let’s start a list.
Lance Leipold?
Who else?
It’s the job of the AD Pat Kraft to find the replacement for Franklin. Possible candidates should include the pool of assistant coaches and coordinators at big time programs.
Penn State has a Mark Richt problem with Franklin. Franklin has hit his ceiling which is defeating lower ranked and second tier opponents. A replacement is desperately needed in order for Penn State to take this program to the next level.
Penn State has a Mark Richt problem with Franklin. Franklin has hit his ceiling which is defeating lower ranked and second tier opponents. A replacement is desperately needed in order for Penn State to take this program to the next level.
It wasn't just the stepover...watch him pause, look down and bow up when his nuts nutsack is right over the players face.
It was really stupid. Period.
Since Franklin came from Vanderbilt, why not try to hire away Clark Lea? He beat Alabama this year and also Auburn, so he's got some worthy coaching skills. Plus he's only getting paid 3 million dollars at Vandy, which we can easily match that and more and still come out ahead by dropping Franklin's big millstone of a salary. Win/win for everyone!
But Auburn won a Natty in the past 15 years and has some fabulous wins vs Bama.
TrueThe Den has already turned the corner here (OSU preseason #1, one score loss, had some bad calls, we’re not as good and haven’t been for many, many years, still in the playoff hunt, etc.) - you wonder if anyone cares if we ever beat OSU…?
They should win the rest of their games. The new chant of the curse of this never ending Franklin era will now be “but he got us into the playoffs!!!”
This is false. Go back and watch it here. It was not momentum and was completely intentional.
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