People that celebrate good effort nauseate me. Where does that show up in the box score? Really only one thing that matters.
Good effort tonight
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I would add that to be considered the worst team in the SEC, coming into the season, tells you what a colossal mess Paris inherited from Martin
I can guarantee that if we were winless in the SEC, the hollering would have been long and loud. The fact is that to be picked dead last in the SEC tells you what a colossal mess Paris inherited here. Even Paris' few detractors would be hard pressed to deny that.
I simply don't understand why you feel the need to be a half empty guy when it comes to the basketball team. We all knew it was going to be a rough season. Losing seems to get you more excited than winning. We won our last game. I don't believe we heard from you.
You blasted players for quitting the football team (transfering) at the end of the season yet you're quoting a coach that quit mid-season. You are all over the place.
I don't know that anyone is celebrating the loss but just acknowledging the effort and improvement. We are in agreement that close losses are nothing to celebrate and if the football team had close losses to TN and Clemson to end the season we would be in a totally different place with Beamer and the football team. Winning is the obvious goal and a victory over Bama last night would have been a huge step. Let's hope it gave the BB team some confidence to do a better job against TN and come away with a big win.
I'm only forced into my position when folks say things like Paris has overachieved.
There is no doubt that the basketball team is doing better than expected. I don't care whether it is called "overachieving" or what. The fact is that they are not as bad as the experts said they would be. We had no business going on the road to beat Kentucky, which is probably going to the Big Dance. We had no business beating ACC clemson, which is going to play in some post-season tournament. And yes, Geogetown is last in the Big East. But Paris' first South Carolina team had no business going on the road beating Patrick Ewing's 6th Georgetown Hoyas Big East team. If that does not give you hope for the future, nothing will.
lol, goodness, you're delusional. You're touting our 3-point overtime win over 7-22 (2-16) Georgetown as the strongest sign of hope for the future?
Did I not say they were last in the Big East? Why did you skate over that.? Still, Paris' first SC team had no business beating Ewing's 6th Georgetown team on the road.
Why does it matter in the least that it's Ewing's 6th season? They suck. That's all that matters. Doesn't matter if it's his 20th season.
And we were expected to suck this year too. Yet we still went on the road and beat them. The fact is that we are doing better than the experts said we would this year.
It does matter. Paris inherited a mess here. He is in the process of building this program, Ewing's should already be built in his 6th season.
No, we are not. We are doing exactly as poorly as expected.
Ewing doing a bad job does not mean Paris is doing a good job.
You're hanging your hard on those SI preseason predictions, lol.
FWIW, ESPN projections had us either 12th or 13th, based on the analyst. So, the best you can say is that preseason predictions placed us between 12th and 14th, which is exactly where we will end up.
Expectations met.
At least in your eyes we are not doing worse. Then again, talk about being delusional.
I don't generally distinguish between shades of suck. Does it matter if you're 12th, 13th or 14th in the conference? No. If you're 12th, you suck. If you're 13th, you suck. If you're 14th, you suck.
And where did I say we don't suck this year? Of course, I, among most, expected that in Paris' first season.
I'm having fun with you there in my previous reply to you. The team was expected to suck this year. FanSided.com had us coming in 13th this season. The SBD site had us coming in at 14th. The SEC media group, which may be considered THE authority on SEC teams, also had us coming in at 14th. We may yet meet the expectations of most and come in at 14th. We were expected to suck this year. Anyone who didn't expect that is simply out of the mainstream and in La La Land. Staley's first team here sucked. Her 2nd team here was mediocre. She made a post-season tournament here in her 3rd season. Don't misunderstand, Paris was not my first choice. I don't think he was even in my Top 5. Growing pains in a mess of a program that Paris inherited is expected by realistic fans. Though Paris was not in my Top 5 of coaches I wanted, the fact that he mentored under Bo Ryan, one of the very best college basketball coaches of the early 21st century and that his UT Chattanooga teams improved each season he was there, gives me hope. And the fact that we are not nearly as bad as most thought we would be this season also gives me hope. You can be miserable and be pessimistic about the future. That's your right. Regardless, Paris will be here for at least the next 3 seasons. I choose to be optimistic and look forward to better days ahead. Life is too short to not be.
To the administration…it does matter if you are at the very bottom!
First game I've seen start to finish. I've only seen the first half of the Ole Miss game and a exhibition. This looked like a different team. A lot of ball movement, players were active without the ball, three point attempts 6ft behind the line were minimal and they seemed to work for the best shot. Again, I don't have a lot to go off, but which one is the real team? You'll definitely win more than you lose playing like this.
Then why are you complaining. There aren’t many programs who have been better or could have done better with the roster we ended up with. I didn’t expect to win with this group nor did I think we would ever take the number one team into ot.
Where have I lodged complaint?
I'm simply pointing out reality. My hand is forced to hand out facts when people say things like "Paris has overachieved" because we are only arguably the worst team in the conference and not definitively the worst team in the conference or when people point to our win over an equally awful Georgetown team as evidence of hope for the future.
It's one thing to acknowledge the realities of the situation regarding our roster, but that doesn't change the fact that we are terrible. Are there explanations for why we are terrible? Yes. Obvious ones. But we're terrible? Nowhere here have I said Paris is a terrible coach or that he won't on day be successful here.
This same administration sat around for 10 years watching us struggle to have winning basketball seasons. Yes, I think they would be glad for us to not be in the bottom place in the SEC.
I don't believe anyone can deny that Paris' USC basketball team has improved as the season has progressed. Well, I guess they could but, they'd look foolish. And as I said before, his UT-C teams improved every year. Thus, "improvement" seems to be a habit under Paris. That should give hope to everyone. That's why I say be PATIENT and support the man and the program. I believe we will be pleased when it's all said and done.
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Going back to clapping when we played hard, but still lost is a great way to show our disgust with Spurrier.
You can hang on a quitters every word if it makes you and some of the others feel better. Not only did he quit, last time I checked he was employed by the Gators.Going back to clapping when we played hard, but still lost is a great way to show our disgust with Spurrier.
Herein lies the problem with putting too much stock into a close loss against a good team. How many times have we seen our football team go out and play over our heads against a good team and come up just short, to then go out the next week and look terrible against Vandy or Wofford etc? Too many to count.