I don’t know, we have a good many players starting or have started that probably wouldn’t even make other SEC Rosters. Highfill, Chance, Hujsack, Downs, Hunt, Mershon, Forsythe, Hoyle, Tapper, Cheatham, Auger , etc
Basically the 2023 version of Raffo
If our program is going to return to being "elite," it must act elite. The administration must pursue solid names with a mission of winning and the proven track record of doing so (e.g. Link Jarrett, Josh Holliday).
You think cohen didn’t pursue solid names? You think he just said F it. We’ll go get this Lemonis guy?
I'm not clear on what your reply intends to imply. It is not a referendum on Lemonis. It's a plan toward rebuilding what has been lost.
It was supposed to say COHEN. The point is we might not be able to go hire anyone we want.
Except he's actually won as a head coach. A lot. So, nothing like Raffo at all.
You left out the fact that Burroughs took them to those 2 last year and the year before...that in just his 5th & 6th year. He took over a **** program and turned them into consistent winners.
Well, unless it's a constraint that is far beyond its control (e.g. economics), I would argue that the administration isn't too serious about winning if it cannot make it happen.
We can and should do so much better
Tunnel vision. You speak of the regionals, a poster corrects you, you go straight to this general statement that cannot be backed up.
Yep, if we can’t go hire anyone we want, we aren’t serious about winning. It’s science.
This is 100% correct. Don't talk about winning if you're not willing to make the sacrifices and do what it takes to maintain excellence. Watch what happens should Saban ever retire. Bama won't end up with some run of the mill 4th option because the 1st 3 options turned them down. And they damn sure won't put up with a disastrous season the year after he retires, let alone 2 disastrous seasons!
Might better revise that take, buddy. Bear Bryant retires, they go 8-4 and 5-6. History is not on your side.
I am aware of the chronology between Bryant and Saban, but I also realize that Bama got sick of it and did what they had to do to get who they thought would bring them back up to the elite level. Programs like Bama football, Kentucky basketball, and other blue bloods don't end up with roody poos, at least not in this day and time. I agree with all the things you said that occurred between Bryant and Saban, but I think now is a much different time than it was back then. I know everybody pays a lot now, but watch the insane amount that Bama offers their next football coach. It will be astounding.
I agree that Burroughs is a lot like Cohen and that’s what we needed in 2008. 4 trips to Omaha and the best facilities in the country later we don’t need a guy who grinds it out to get to regionals.
What? Do you think Bama somehow wasn't trying for 25 years? What happened is they got lucky with one of the best hires in college football history. A hire they wouldn't have even made if Rich Rodriguez hadn't backed out of accepting the job first.
Yeah, kinda of silly. @$altyDawg kinda glossed right over the point about them being bad 2 years after firing their legendary coach, but not firing him. And then not really getting 'back' for a decade. Not much you can do to make people understand, they either can see the long game or they can't.
He won't do that at MSU most likely. We are a better program than La Tech and can afford him more advantages, the same way we did Cohen vs. what he had at Kentucky.
That is true but look at our division. Every coach has been to Omaha besides Bohanon who is probably on his way out. We have to hire a big time coach if we’re the program our fans think we are. We can hire Burroughs because he’s a grinder and knows Mississippi but if that’s our criteria we can enjoy our 1 trip to Omaha every 5 years
I see where you're coming from but I don't agree with that reasoning. I tell you what, can you point out 4-5 of these type coaches that you would realistically target?
Tadlock, Butch, Godwin, O’Connor, O’Sullivan are all guys I’d go after before Burroughs. Are they realistic? Probably not but that’s who we should be going for before we get to the mid major guys
Come on man. None of those realistic except Godwin and guess what, he's a mid-major.
I know nothing about any of this, but why would Butch not come?
Still need to kick the tires on them. If our athletic department does their due diligence and finds that Burroughs is the best man for the job I’ll be happy and support him. I just don’t want us to shoe him in for being a State guy
