Are you comparing the success of Penn State Football to the New York Jets?
Ok so it’s almost never the coaches who are responsible for the wins as well I suppose.
Luck is mostly when preparation meets opportunity, but not always.
Perhaps. I think you assume you know more about coaching than you do. Special Teams coach at some AA PA school does not make you Lombardi.
I'm not joking at all. I was responding to the comment that fans (ie fat guys on the couch) should shut up because they don't know what it takes to run a successful football program. That might be true but they do understand Franklin being 1-10 vs OSU. USC fans understand that Lincoln riley was 8-5 last year and 6-6 this year. Jets fans understand that their team hasn't been back to the superbowl in 55 years. In each case the fans have a reason to be critical.
Nope. We are in the DMV as of last summer. If you go, then have a blast. We need to hit the links again. It’s been a few years.
Entirely different circumstances
I was bored and turned on a show about the CFP....and had to laugh when one of the hosts mentioned that CJF had to win against SMU because his success against top teams is so abysmal, that "Nittany Nation" has coined the phrase "Big Game James" when speaking about our head coach!
Correct. The coaching staff is an integral part of the "team." Division one coaches recruit, develop and prepare athletes to compete. Game planning, the execution of the aforementioned plan and many uncontrollable "bounces of the ball," determine the outcome of a competitive contest. Saying winning and losing is solely on the HFC is silly and minimizes so many other mitigating factors. But for the casual fan, or those with an "axe" to grind it's comfortable like a warm blanket.
One telling factor of a weak mind is surrendering one's ability to form an opinion to a "show" host. I suppose there is comfort in embracing the "narrative" created by someone who is reading script and looking for eyes and clicks in the 24 hour cycle. We all should embrace the narrative that Joe Paterno practically held down little boys in the shower while Sandusky raped them? Right? I mean that's what's out there.
Who was responsible? Easy, the center and the QB. The snap was bobbled. Fire Allar. He's being paid 900k......We Deserve Better!
We'd all like to beat Ohio State. I'm a fan. I want to win every game. I can also be objective enough to realize that Ohio State is historically a better program and has better athletes top to bottom.
I don't know football like a D1 coach. But when go to sleep at night, by the time I wake, I forget more football than you ever knew.
That's pretty much what he gets for winning from you and the experts at BWICAC. I mean....did PSU win Saturday? I expect vitriol in a loss.
Over simplifying that a little, players try and execute what the coaches want them to do on the field. A prime example, PSU up 14-0 with all the momentum and "JF" decides to go for it at his own 20yd line, if they don't get it and SMU scores to make it 14-7, we could have had a completely different game on our hands. Everyone will scream great call since it worked, but that is a "Coaching" decision that is determining what guys are and aren't doing on the field. You appear to know enough Football to know that 1-2 plays can change a game entirely. You acting like coaching the actual game is insignificant is very disingenuous. Where I give Big game credit is, he wins the games he is supposed to, and a lot of coaches out there aren't doing that.
I'm willing to sign a negotiated settlement with the wording "sometimes." As long as you admit that here it is "all the time."
My point is that those one or two decisions do not equate to the execution of the participants over the course of 140 snaps. For example, the decision to go for a first down on the 19 was a failure. Yet it turned out to be insignificant because of the other 139 snaps.
Well he's getting a raise and an extension. I don't know about any rumors. I will say I hope he leaves after this year. I want to enjoy seeing the same fanboys cry about his replacement......because WE DESERVE BETTER. It's better here than the old comic sections of the Sunday Newspapers.
He's waiting for 4th and long in the 4th quarter of the Natty game rematch against OSU.
Got it. So you're basically saying that coaching is irrelevant to the outcomes of games.
Luck was also the quarterback for West Vifiginia in the late 1970s and early 1980s. Luck did not help them to be able to beat Penn State during that time. After he graduated in 1982, West Viriginia was out of Luck.
I don't think anybody expects PSU to beat OSU or any top 5 program on a regular basis. Most think we should be able to do it 33% of the time. They question play calling that leads to blown 15 pt 4th qtr leads. They question running 3 times into the middle without Warren touching the ball.We'd all like to beat Ohio State. I'm a fan. I want to win every game. I can also be objective enough to realize that Ohio State is historically a better program and has better athletes top to bottom.
Forgive me for being perplexed about the need to defend a coach that has accomplished what Franklin has here. I recall 2011 when all the pundants everyone here embrace predicted the PSU football was finished for 20 years. Do you remember the roster he inherited in 2014? Let's compare the offensive line depth and quality. How about our lousy wide receivers? Coaches fault right? Yet, we average 440 yards per game and Oregon averages 450.
I challenge anyone to use the same logic in their daily lives that they apply to James Franklin.
Try telling your wife, "hey you look pretty hot, but why aren't you as sexy as your sister?"
As a fan, wanting to win is part of the deal. Blaming a highly successful coach for losing 2 or 3 games a year while winning 9,10 or 11 is just plain silly.
PSU is NOT a top 5 program in resources. Yet, Franklin keeps knocking on the door. I know....WE DESERVE BETTER!
For some it’s all the time, no where close to most posters, but for some.
Penn State will be fine with or without him, I was joking about the Bears rumor because in the past anytime a job was open his name magically appeared, and PSU panicked into giving him more money and yrs. I'll agree he's getting a bonus for sure as any coach in this CFP should be getting. He doesn't need any more yrs tacked on.
I think the argument to be made is if Allar should even have had the chance to bobble a snap there??? We were up 14 nothing and had momentum. Why go for it so deep in your own end?
But the Luck family wasn't out of luck, as son Andrew ka-ching'ed $40M in his NFL career.
I give him credit for winning especially games like USC but you give him and every coach a blanket pass for everything which is disingenuous at the very least.
I am sorry to say this but to think about Joe in that manner I find repulsive....That said I am sure Marshall was simply expressing how totally asinine the media and ignorant people still hold perverted ideas concerning PSU
Again, I could coach them to 55-6 over blue hens. Can big game James take credit for stacking wins vs inferior teams? We say no