In your opinion, what is the future of college football

[18IsTheMan]

I don't really want to have a debate over NIL and the transfer portal and all (that's been done plenty), but rather just want to see what folks think it all means for college football. Phrases like "the death of college football" have been thrown around. I'm just curious what folks actually think that looks like.

For decades, the greatest allure of college football was the amateurism. Guys willing to go out there and play, presumably, for love of their school (and a free education). Guys came and, for the most part, stayed 4 years. If there was a better player ahead of him on the depth chart, he waited until his junior or senior season for his moment to shine. For years, it was the norm for freshman not to expect much playing time, and they were ok with that. Everyone seemed happy. The fans connected with players who were truly part of the school and program.

All that, of course, has been turned on its head. It's clear that players now don't really care what name is on the front of their jersey. Many are unwilling to concede playing time. The advent of the portal, which amounts to unrestricted free agency, permits players the freedom to jump ship over the slightest perceived offense. Or, with NIL, the freedom to jump ship for a higher bidder.

It is obvious that whatever version of college football we all grew up with and fell in love with no longer exists and can never be regained. But where is the game going?

Years and years ago, back on GoGamecocks forum, there was a discussion about this. I can't remember what had transpired, but there was one poster who said he could see a day when teams were more or less sponsored by schools, but the players themselves did not have to be students. Basically minor league football sponsored by schools. I scoffed at the notion as outlandish, but it seems more plausible these days.

What surprises me in all of this is how easily everyone is going along with it. Even your commentators and guys on ESPN who played the game. I would think they would have some interest in preserving the game they played and speaking out on some of the deleterious changes, but I guess everyone just goes along to get along and get paid.

So, what do you think the ultimate end is of college football? Is it eventually going to morph into something like I mentioned above? A minor league that is only sponsored by schools? I think the powers that be will want to keep those school connections to maintain the fan bases.

 

[Harvard Gamecock]

This format is much too limited for me to convey my opinions on this subject.
I will say this, for all the current issues surrounding the Transfer Portal and NIL proliferation, it appears that the powers that be will impose restrictions in some form. What those will be and how effective they will be remains to be seen.

 

[Forkcock]

The end began with the NIL. Many of us said so. The cool kids called us grumpy old white guys.

 

[1vagamecock]

I don't really want to have a debate over NIL and the transfer portal and all (that's been done plenty), but rather just want to see what folks think it all means for college football. Phrases like "the death of college football" have been thrown around. I'm just curious what folks actually think that looks like.

For decades, the greatest allure of college football was the amateurism. Guys willing to go out there and play, presumably, for love of their school (and a free education). Guys came and, for the most part, stayed 4 years. If there was a better player ahead of him on the depth chart, he waited until his junior or senior season for his moment to shine. For years, it was the norm for freshman not to expect much playing time, and they were ok with that. Everyone seemed happy. The fans connected with players who were truly part of the school and program.

All that, of course, has been turned on its head. It's clear that players now don't really care what name is on the front of their jersey. Many are unwilling to concede playing time. The advent of the portal, which amounts to unrestricted free agency, permits players the freedom to jump ship over the slightest perceived offense. Or, with NIL, the freedom to jump ship for a higher bidder.

It is obvious that whatever version of college football we all grew up with and fell in love with no longer exists and can never be regained. But where is the game going?

Years and years ago, back on GoGamecocks forum, there was a discussion about this. I can't remember what had transpired, but there was one poster who said he could see a day when teams were more or less sponsored by schools, but the players themselves did not have to be students. Basically minor league football sponsored by schools. I scoffed at the notion as outlandish, but it seems more plausible these days.

What surprises me in all of this is how easily everyone is going along with it. Even your commentators and guys on ESPN who played the game. I would think they would have some interest in preserving the game they played and speaking out on some of the deleterious changes, but I guess everyone just goes along to get along and get paid.

So, what do you think the ultimate end is of college football? Is it eventually going to morph into something like I mentioned above? A minor league that is only sponsored by schools? I think the powers that be will want to keep those school connections to maintain the fan bases.

I don't know if college football will cease to exist in the form it is now in or not, but I know it is changing, and not for the better in my opinion. It started with the let's pay players movement, but it also mirrors society and the general decline of morals and behavior. Anyone with some age and discernment could see the fall coming with the ESPN crowd screaming for paying players. Now they (ESPN and other talking heads) tell us the bowls mean nothing unless your in the playoffs.
I guess we must not loose sight of a couple things. #1. All college football players are not selfish brats, some are good kids that want to do what is right. #2. A lot of the decline in sports seems to have started when ESPN changed from being about sports coverage and started being about their social issues.
I'm not sure where college football is headed but I'm sad for my Grandkids, and not just because they won't see the greatest sport the way I got to, but because society as well is headed down that same direction.
JMTC.

 

[18IsTheMan]

With all the changes that are changing the landscape in college football, it does surprise me that there hasn't been one commentator, analyst or coach in all of college football who has come out in opposition to NIL or the portal. I guess coaches won't do it b/c they it will cost them recruits. They'd rather win than speak out to try preserving the game. Those on the TV side work for the entities that are pushing the change, so I guess you don't bite the hand that feeds you.

 

[muscleknight]

College football players association with collective bargaining agreement and college football draft

 

[CriminalTrakerAlum80]

As I once knew it back in the days of my youth (the Sixties) and only one game was televised each week..."He's dead, Jim."

 

[ToddFlanders]

For decades, the greatest allure of college football was the amateurism. Guys willing to go out there and play, presumably, for love of their school (and a free education). Guys came and, for the most part, stayed 4 years. If there was a better player ahead of him on the depth chart, he waited until his junior or senior season for his moment to shine. For years, it was the norm for freshman not to expect much playing time, and they were ok with that. Everyone seemed happy. The fans connected with players who were truly part of the school and program.

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I disagree with this statement completely - and I'm sure many others do as well. Which is why "the death of college football" tropes are so overdone and usually only thrown out by the most dramatic of fans.

College football will be fine. Fans root for teams, not players. Notice how the players come and go, but somehow I've been a USC fan for over 25 years now. And that's something that is true for all fans - players come and go, but they stay loyal to a team. Besides, four years is an arbitrary number. Anyone who played for USC for 1, 2, 3, 4, or 5 (with the covid year) years is still a part of the history of the team I root for.

 

[VidaliaGamecock]

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I don't really want to have a debate over NIL and the transfer portal and all (that's been done plenty), but rather just want to see what folks think it all means for college football. Phrases like "the death of college football" have been thrown around. I'm just curious what folks actually think that looks like.

For decades, the greatest allure of college football was the amateurism. Guys willing to go out there and play, presumably, for love of their school (and a free education). Guys came and, for the most part, stayed 4 years. If there was a better player ahead of him on the depth chart, he waited until his junior or senior season for his moment to shine. For years, it was the norm for freshman not to expect much playing time, and they were ok with that. Everyone seemed happy. The fans connected with players who were truly part of the school and program.

All that, of course, has been turned on its head. It's clear that players now don't really care what name is on the front of their jersey. Many are unwilling to concede playing time. The advent of the portal, which amounts to unrestricted free agency, permits players the freedom to jump ship over the slightest perceived offense. Or, with NIL, the freedom to jump ship for a higher bidder.

It is obvious that whatever version of college football we all grew up with and fell in love with no longer exists and can never be regained. But where is the game going?

Years and years ago, back on GoGamecocks forum, there was a discussion about this. I can't remember what had transpired, but there was one poster who said he could see a day when teams were more or less sponsored by schools, but the players themselves did not have to be students. Basically minor league football sponsored by schools. I scoffed at the notion as outlandish, but it seems more plausible these days.

What surprises me in all of this is how easily everyone is going along with it. Even your commentators and guys on ESPN who played the game. I would think they would have some interest in preserving the game they played and speaking out on some of the deleterious changes, but I guess everyone just goes along to get along and get paid.

So, what do you think the ultimate end is of college football? Is it eventually going to morph into something like I mentioned above? A minor league that is only sponsored by schools? I think the powers that be will want to keep those school connections to maintain the fan bases.

Unless some governing body starts putting in some rules and regulations on NIL and the transfer portal, I do not have a lot of faith that College Football will exist in 5 years irrespective of the expanded playoff. The NCAA is feckless and certainly do not give me any hope that they will map out guidelines and frankly the conferences who run football are not doing anything because they don't want to be the ones to watch talent go elsewhere by instituting rules that tighten NIL rules and transfer rules. The conferences are going to have to work together to regulate this situation and frankly Congress will have to do something. The governing bodies saw this coming and didn't prepare at all. It is a failure of potentially catastrophic proportions.

 

[will110]

College football is definitely changing. It's undergoing what should have been decades of gradual change overnight, with the transfer portal and NIL. The NCAA's failure to lead and see what was coming really hurts college football.

That said, it's not the death of college football. It probably is the death of amateurism, but is that a bad thing? When the schools are raking in millions and millions of dollars from massive TV deals, it's really really difficult to act like the players should only get the cost of education. When mediocre coaches are getting paid millions and millions of dollars it's really really difficult to act like the players should only get the cost of education. When coaches leave for better opportunities every year, it's really really difficult to act like players should not be able to leave for better opportunities.

The unfortunate thing is that this all happened overnight. The NCAA should have been out front on this, making gradual changes that would have benefited everyone. Instead, they fought the inevitable change tooth and nail, and deservedly got crushed for it at the Supreme Court.

 

[Evilchicken]

Here’s the deal…not even the big big deep pocket schools can pay for every guy out there. At most there are what, 10 universities that can pay player ransom demands? My point is, only the Bamas and Georgias of the world will compete for NIL deals for 5-star recruits; and everybody else will get the rest of the good players, just like it is now. Fortunately, the portal can be the great equalizer as former 4 and 5 star players jockey for playing time at “smaller” power 5 schools. Yes, the NIL sucks, but how much scrutiny will come when schools have to explain tuition hikes because they need to afford players? There’s a limit to this madness, and it’s unsustainable.

 

[Rogue Cock]

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Unless some governing body starts putting in some rules and regulations on NIL and the transfer portal, I do not have a lot of faith that College Football will exist in 5 years irrespective of the expanded playoff. The NCAA is feckless and certainly do not give me any hope that they will map out guidelines and frankly the conferences who run football are not doing anything because they don't want to be the ones to watch talent go elsewhere by instituting rules that tighten NIL rules and transfer rules. The conferences are going to have to work together to regulate this situation and frankly Congress will have to do something. The governing bodies saw this coming and didn't prepare at all. It is a failure of potentially catastrophic proportions.

Ummm....Just who do you think comprises the NCAA? They are not exactly an independent third party. And BTW the NCAA had the rules and regulations that prevented these types of deals until the SCOTUS decision....AND they do have guidelines regarding NILs....to the extent the Supreme Court decision allows them to. May want to read a bit before you go to the trite and overused animosity toward the NCAA.

 

[Blues man]

At some point, I'd like to think 5 or 6 conference commissioners will come together in an emergency meeting, break away from NCAA jurisdiction and decide the future of college football themselves. The NCAA has out lived its usefulness by at least a decade. They hurt more than they help and they arent a solution to anything anymore.

 

[Rogue Cock]

At some point, I'd like to think 5 or 6 conference commissioners will come together in an emergency meeting, break away from NCAA jurisdiction and decide the future of college football themselves. The NCAA has out lived its usefulness by at least a decade. They hurt more than they help and they arent a solution to anything anymore.

Conferences can't make that decision.....the NCAA is the member Universities which also comprise the conferences. The individual Universities would have to pull out, create a new regulating body and deal with all the issues they are currently having to deal with in the NCAA, the regulating body they are currently members of. And none of that changes the Supreme Court decision on player's earning money on their name, likeness or image.

 

[HillsToSea]

With all the changes that are changing the landscape in college football, it does surprise me that there hasn't been one commentator, analyst or coach in all of college football who has come out in opposition to NIL or the portal. I guess coaches won't do it b/c they it will cost them recruits. They'd rather win than speak out to try preserving the game. Those on the TV side work for the entities that are pushing the change, so I guess you don't bite the hand that feeds you.

Saban and Dabo were sounding the alarms from the beginning. And others. Got criticized

 

[VidaliaGamecock]

Ummm....Just who do you think comprises the NCAA? They are not exactly an independent third party. And BTW the NCAA had the rules and regulations that prevented these types of deals until the SCOTUS decision....AND they do have guidelines regarding NILs....to the extent the Supreme Court decision allows them to. May want to read a bit before you go to the trite and overused animosity toward the NCAA.

Ummm, I never said they were independent. I know that it is an association of the member schools. I also know that the NCAA does not benefit financially or participate in the college playoff system planning and that they are in charge of the organization of playoffs for most other college sports. It is true that there are regulations and guidelines related to NIL, however if you don't attempt to enforce them do they really exist? It is not trite to point the finger at the NCAA and even more at the conferences for letting NIL and the portal to get out of hand, which it is. There are rules against using NIL to entice players and that is happening pretty much daily with no consequence. To me, it looks like no one wants to enforce existing rules or create new ones rules because to do so would put their members at a competitive disadvantage. Thanks for thinking less of me.

 

[Rogue Cock]

Ummm, I never said they were independent. I know that it is an association of the member schools. I also know that the NCAA does not benefit financially or participate in the college playoff system planning and that they are in charge of the organization of playoffs for most other college sports. It is true that there are regulations and guidelines related to NIL, however if you don't attempt to enforce them do they really exist? It is not trite to point the finger at the NCAA and even more at the conferences for letting NIL and the portal to get out of hand, which it is. There are rules against using NIL to entice players and that is happening pretty much daily with no consequence. To me, it looks like no one wants to enforce existing rules or create new ones rules because to do so would put their members at a competitive disadvantage. Thanks for thinking less of me.

You want to solve it....convince the member schools to give the NCAA real investigative powers. As of now they have little....they can't subpeona records, depose anyone, etc.. Any regulating body without those powers are going to have trouble in enforcement....at that point it becomes a matter of another program giving the credible evidence of any wrongdoing.

And that was a much better explanation than simply criticizing the NCAA for not doing anything and not having guidelines. Just don't be the first program they catch abusing those rules.

 

[ToddFlanders]

At some point, I'd like to think 5 or 6 conference commissioners will come together in an emergency meeting, break away from NCAA jurisdiction and decide the future of college football themselves. The NCAA has out lived its usefulness by at least a decade. They hurt more than they help and they arent a solution to anything anymore.

That is what is going to happen - wherein the top 70 to 130 teams are going to remove football from the NCAA. And it's already in the works. But much to the chagrin of many on here, the point will be to pay the players salaries.

 

[VidaliaGamecock]

You want to solve it....convince the member schools to give the NCAA real investigative powers. As of now they have little....they can't subpeona records, depose anyone, etc.. Any regulating body without those powers are going to have trouble in enforcement....at that point it becomes a matter of another program giving the credible evidence of any wrongdoing.

And that was a much better explanation than simply criticizing the NCAA for not doing anything and not having guidelines. Just don't be the first program they catch abusing those rules.

Agree with you 100%. Until the member schools are hit in the pocket book there won't be incentive to give the NCAA any more power than it already has, IMHO. There is also the problem that fans don't care about the systematic problems unless their school is negatively impacted. For instance, I doubt Alabama fans will ever really care because few schools have the NIL support and endless supply of athletes to replace the portal pirates (use it, but please attribute jk).

 

[Blues man]

Conferences can't make that decision.....the NCAA is the member Universities which also comprise the conferences. The individual Universities would have to pull out, create a new regulating body and deal with all the issues they are currently having to deal with in the NCAA, the regulating body they are currently members of. And none of that changes the Supreme Court decision on player's earning money on their name, likeness or image.

It would take a group of universities to break away from the NCAA. The logical groups would be the conferences. Not buying it cant be done. I would hope all the universities within a conference would be on board with what the conference wants. Yes it would have to be unanimous or leave the conference.
You make it sound as if creating a regulating body is some monumental task. Not buying that either. I have a little experience in sports with that. Once a board is created, the commissioners could remain non-voting board members after bylaws are written with their input. It's not rocket science and I'm sure they have access to good enough lawyers to make it happen. All it will take is enough universities to say enough is enough. I gotta think we are on that path.
Now that said, I dont expect it will happen. No one has shown the backbone to initiate such a move at this point... but I can dream.

 

[Rogue Cock]

It would take a group of universities to break away from the NCAA. The logical groups would be the conferences. Not buying it cant be done. I would hope all the universities within a conference would be on board with what the conference wants. Yes it would have to be unanimous or leave the conference.
You make it sound as if creating a regulating body is some monumental task. Not buying that either. I have a little experience in sports with that. Once a board is created, the commissioners could remain non-voting board members after bylaws are written with their input. It's not rocket science and I'm sure they have access to good enough lawyers to make it happen. All it will take is enough universities to say enough is enough. I gotta think we are on that path.
Now that said, I dont expect it will happen. No one has shown the backbone to initiate such a move at this point... but I can dream.

Don't disagree with that but the reason I don't believe it would happen is that the only sport it makes sense for is football. If there were a split, it would have to be pretty much the P-5 conferences and the only sport that it makes any sense for them to do so is football.....and although football is the big money-maker would it make that much more than what those conferences would lose by not playing in March Madness? I don't think it would. But then, March Madness, may not exist after a split....just too many unknowns and risks.

 

[Blues man]

Don't disagree with that but the reason I don't believe it would happen is that the only sport it makes sense for is football. If there were a split, it would have to be pretty much the P-5 conferences and the only sport that it makes any sense for them to do so is football.....and although football is the big money-maker would it make that much more than what those conferences would lose by not playing in March Madness? I don't think it would. But then, March Madness, may not exist after a split....just too many unknowns and risks.

A threat to the NCAA's existence may be enough to cause change for the better idk. I doubt the NCAA would make meaningful change without being threatened. That's what we need to see sooner rather than later. Imo, it's just a matter of time before baseball and basketball are affected as much as football if the rules dont change. Teams will be torn apart consistantly in all sports. The reasons for that happening needs to be reduced.

 

[DeBoer31]

CFB has gone through so many changes over the years...and we all know that. But, (like it or not) NIL and Transfer portal have made this as close to Pro sport as possible...and it is basically ruined as of now and we will continue to watch it wither.
Pro sports went this way in the 90s....and now pro sports suck IMO. Whether you agree with that or not (them sucking) if you watched/loved pro sports in the 70s to mid 90s....what they were THEN vs. now is not comparable. Pro sports seem very cartoonish these days...and so do the athletes that are propped up to sell their leagues.

 

[DeBoer31]

Saban and Dabo were sounding the alarms from the beginning. And others. Got criticized

true...and I agreed with them both as many did (and do).

 

[Rogue Cock]

A threat to the NCAA's existence may be enough to cause change for the better idk. I doubt the NCAA would make meaningful change without being threatened. That's what we need to see sooner rather than later. Imo, it's just a matter of time before baseball and basketball are affected as much as football if the rules dont change. Teams will be torn apart consistantly in all sports. The reasons for that happening needs to be reduced.

A change in what exactly? If it is in investigation and enforcement, the universities have to agree to give them that authority. If it is in the NIL stuff, they are handcuffed by the SCOTUS decision which they fought and lost. It was a dumb and lazy decision that the NCAA fought tooth and nail against.....there isn't much they can do about it other can limit to the best they are able what the individual universities can do within it. And they have guidelines regarding that. Not sure at this point what else they are able to do.

 

[Spot The Ball]

Need stricter rules for NIL and transfer portal.

 

[Anon1658788697]

The end began with the NIL. Many of us said so. The cool kids called us grumpy old white guys.

You still are. I will never agree with taking someone’s right to their name without compensation or some kind. No a free education doesn’t cut it.

It wasn’t about the amateurism for me it was the emotional attachment. My father graduated from USC and I grew up attending games. Then got a degree from there myself. With a NFL team it’s hard to get that same attachment, at least for me. I see the changes for what they are, evolving. Nothing ever stays the same. You can either jump on board or not look at it. It’s obvious the masses are accepting it considering tv contracts continue to get bigger. More money is coming from somewhere.

 

[Anon1658788697]

Need stricter rules for NIL and transfer portal.

I’ll bite what rules would you like to see applied to NIL?

 

[Blues man]

A change in what exactly? If it is in investigation and enforcement, the universities have to agree to give them that authority. If it is in the NIL stuff, they are handcuffed by the SCOTUS decision which they fought and lost. It was a dumb and lazy decision that the NCAA fought tooth and nail against.....there isn't much they can do about it other can limit to the best they are able what the individual universities can do within it. And they have guidelines regarding that. Not sure at this point what else they are able to do.

I dont know the ins and out legally on how to attack the NIL issue. I only know it's at the detriment of the sport and still must be addressed. Court rulings sometimes lead to a direction that can be taken to correct a matter leading to an unfavorable ruling but again, idk what steps can be taken, I'm no lawyer. I would explore its boundaries for sure. The portal, which was a fine idea before the NIL now needs to be addressed. I would put limits to its use now that money is in play. If a head coach leaves a school, open the portal for athletes to leave as well. Otherwise, bring back sitting out a year for transfers. Things like that. Limits. Lines need to be drawn. If I had my way, I'd bring back JV football. No freshman on varsity. Maybe that would slow down transfers. Maybe even promote some loyality. Probably a good thing I'm not in charge right? Point is there are so many things that can be done differently to attack a boatload of problems. Basketball, get rid of one and done. Baseball, get rid of the assine scholarship limits. When I get some free time this week, I'll try to remember to write some down as the pop in my head. Lol

 

[Anon1658788697]

That is what is going to happen - wherein the top 70 to 130 teams are going to remove football from the NCAA. And it's already in the works. But much to the chagrin of many on here, the point will be to pay the players salaries.

I’m all for it. If the players get payed that gives the governing body exponentially more power.

 

[Anon1658788697]

I dont know the ins and out legally on how to attack the NIL issue. I only know it's at the detriment of the sport and still must be addressed. Court rulings sometimes lead to a direction that can be taken to correct a matter leading to an unfavorable ruling but again, idk what steps can be taken, I'm no lawyer. I would explore its boundaries for sure. The portal, which was a fine idea before the NIL now needs to be addressed. I would put limits to its use now that money is in play. If a head coach leaves a school, open the portal for athletes to leave as well. Otherwise, bring back sitting out a year for transfers. Things like that. Limits. Lines need to be drawn. If I had my way, I'd bring back JV football. No freshman on varsity. Maybe that would slow down transfers. Maybe even promote some loyality. Probably a good thing I'm not in charge right? Point is there are so many things that can be done differently to attack a boatload of problems. Basketball, get rid of one and done. Baseball, get rid of the assine scholarship limits. When I get some free time this week, I'll try to remember to write some down as the pop in my head. Lol

So jalen hurts should have had to sit a year because Alabama happened to have 2 nfl qb’s. That’s insane and awful for the players.

 

[Blues man]

So jalen hurts should have had to sit a year because Alabama happened to have 2 nfl qb’s. That’s insane and awful for the players.

I was pro the players for a very long time. That is why I said the portal was fine before the NIL. My pro-player stance has changed when they became professionals

 

[BetaLiberalCock1]

I don't really want to have a debate over NIL and the transfer portal and all (that's been done plenty), but rather just want to see what folks think it all means for college football. Phrases like "the death of college football" have been thrown around. I'm just curious what folks actually think that looks like.

For decades, the greatest allure of college football was the amateurism. Guys willing to go out there and play, presumably, for love of their school (and a free education). Guys came and, for the most part, stayed 4 years. If there was a better player ahead of him on the depth chart, he waited until his junior or senior season for his moment to shine. For years, it was the norm for freshman not to expect much playing time, and they were ok with that. Everyone seemed happy. The fans connected with players who were truly part of the school and program.

All that, of course, has been turned on its head. It's clear that players now don't really care what name is on the front of their jersey. Many are unwilling to concede playing time. The advent of the portal, which amounts to unrestricted free agency, permits players the freedom to jump ship over the slightest perceived offense. Or, with NIL, the freedom to jump ship for a higher bidder.

It is obvious that whatever version of college football we all grew up with and fell in love with no longer exists and can never be regained. But where is the game going?

Years and years ago, back on GoGamecocks forum, there was a discussion about this. I can't remember what had transpired, but there was one poster who said he could see a day when teams were more or less sponsored by schools, but the players themselves did not have to be students. Basically minor league football sponsored by schools. I scoffed at the notion as outlandish, but it seems more plausible these days.

What surprises me in all of this is how easily everyone is going along with it. Even your commentators and guys on ESPN who played the game. I would think they would have some interest in preserving the game they played and speaking out on some of the deleterious changes, but I guess everyone just goes along to get along and get paid.

So, what do you think the ultimate end is of college football? Is it eventually going to morph into something like I mentioned above? A minor league that is only sponsored by schools? I think the powers that be will want to keep those school connections to maintain the fan bases.

Blue

 

[18IsTheMan]

I disagree with this statement completely - and I'm sure many others do as well. Which is why "the death of college football" tropes are so overdone and usually only thrown out by the most dramatic of fans.

College football will be fine. Fans root for teams, not players. Notice how the players come and go, but somehow I've been a USC fan for over 25 years now. And that's something that is true for all fans - players come and go, but they stay loyal to a team. Besides, four years is an arbitrary number. Anyone who played for USC for 1, 2, 3, 4, or 5 (with the covid year) years is still a part of the history of the team I root for.

Of course college football will continue to exist, if in name only. But only the naive think it will continue on in anything that bears resemblance to the game we came up with. And, yes, of course players come and go. Duh. You can only stay in college for so long. That has nothing to do with the point I made.

 

[Spot The Ball]

I’ll bite what rules would you like to see applied to NIL?

First would be a cap on the amount so most or all school's could afford to pay/offer the same amount. This would help reduce the pay to play high bidders. NIL money for each player is put into a trust fund until graduation. Players are required to complete the season including bowl games. jmo

 

[Anon1658788697]

First would be a cap on the amount so most or all school's could afford to pay/offer the same amount. This would help reduce the pay to play high bidders. NIL money for each player is put into a trust fund until graduation. Players are required to complete the season including bowl games. jmo

The school has nothing to do with NIL. NIL is between the booster or company and the player, that’s it. Yes, the head coach lobbies and knows what he has at his disposal, but that’s it. What governing body is going to implement those rules? While making it hold up in court? Even the NFL to my knowledge can’t pull off those rules.

 

[18IsTheMan]

The school has nothing to do with NIL. NIL is between the booster or company and the player, that’s it. Yes, the head coach lobbies and knows what he has at his disposal, but that’s it. What governing body is going to implement those rules? While making it hold up on court? Even the NFL to my knowledge can pull off those rules.

It's crazy to think the schools aren't involved in the NIL. NIL is corruption at it's worst.

 

[Anon1658788697]

It's crazy to think the schools aren't involved in the NIL. NIL is corruption at it's worst.

Legally they are separated. Which makes it almost impossible to regulate. You know what wouldn’t make it hard to regulate, paying the players. You instantly get all the control back.

Just because a head coach knows donor x will pay 3 million for a qb doesn’t mean the school is involved and that is what’s happening. Some school’s donors just have deeper pockets. Again good luck regulating that legally. Can’t regulate the school because legally they are not involved. Can’t regulate the player because you don’t pay them.

 

[Rogue Cock]

Legally they are separated. Which makes it almost impossible to regulate. You know what wouldn’t make it hard to regulate, paying the players. You instantly get all the control back.

Just because a head coach knows donor x will pay 3 million for a qb doesn’t mean the school is involved and that is what’s happening. Some school’s donors just have deeper pockets. Again good luck regulating that legally. Can’t regulate the school because legally they are not involved. Can’t regulate the player because you don’t pay them.

But that would make it non-amateur and the athletic program would lose its tax exempt status....consequently there wouldn't be any tax deductions for contributions. And IF the "unrelated business income" becomes too great a percentage, the university's tax exempt status could also be threatened.

Also...at that point all the players would become employees (and no they wouldn't qualify as independent contractors) and the state employments laws come into effect.

Easier to regulate, absolutely.....but invites a Pandora's box of other issues.

 

[18IsTheMan]

I like the folks who dismiss all the changes and say "college football will be fine" even as it is disintegrating around us. Now, you may be wholly in favor of the changes taking place, and that's fine. But don't pretend that just because you like the changes it doesn't mean the game is fundamentally and irreversibly changing into something very, very different.