It makes sense now that Randy did not testify on AM's behalf. John Marvin would apparently follow AM off a cliff. Randy ain't that dumb.
Is Alex Murdaugh guilty ?
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And the judge is a Gamecock fan.
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Judge Clifton Newman spotted cheering on the Gamecocks at SEC tournament game
Judge Clifton Newman was spotted in Greenville Saturday showing his support for the South Carolina Gamecocks women's basketball team.
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Agree. I don't think it's anywhere near as cut and dry as the prosecution's neat little sequence of events.
I have lots of questions. To me, RAM seems like a bit of a goof - not a hardened, stone-cold murderer. He also seems like an outdoorsman who's probably pretty handy with a gun (there were enough of them around). Why did it take a glancing blow to the chest, and then one through the shoulder and into the side of the head to kill PM? And why did he shoot MM in the gut and thigh first? That's some bad shooting right there...
The Defense moved for a speedy trial, and it was granted.
Your opinion is buttressed by his family’s account of a previous occurrence where he immediately called his sister and timidly hid in nearby woods until she arrived.
Dr. Kenny McKinsey was a brilliant expert witness. He disputed the defense's expert about the "2" 5'2 shooter theory. They were basing their theory on the victims and suspect(s) being stationary and shouldering the weapon. Dr. Kinsey said this was a very chaotic dynamic crime scene. Evidence suggested both victims and shooter were most likely moving. Regardless of the skill level of a killer, this is not like sitting in a deer stand shooting at an grazing animal. Even trained police officers are very inaccurate in heat of the moment shootings. Plus this was his family.
The below animation is probably pretty close to what happened. I think Alex most likely had the weapons on the golf cart. Only Alex knows what really happened and he will continue to lie like he's always done.
alex finally admitted that he drove down to the kennel in a golf cart at the time he was seen on the video...Also it was reported that somehow Maggie had a tire tread mark on the back of her leg....Someone firing a shot from a golf cart would likely fire it from lower to the ground than a standing person...
Exactly what transpired on that night is still unclear.I pray that someday we'll find out.
Exactly what transpired on that night is still unclear.I pray that someday we'll find out.
I have not heard the use of the word unavailing in 50+ years.
I actually saw that same video the other day. Kind of chilling to watch it - even though it's just an animation.
Like a lot of people, I too get sucked into the TV show / movie shooting scenes where everyone makes perfect head-shots all of the time. We can only try to imagine the chaos of that evening..... I'm not convinced AM pulled those triggers - maybe he did - but even one of his brothers is saying (NY Times interview) that he doesn't think Alex isn't telling everything he knows. I hope we somehow learn the 100% concrete truth one day.
We'll never know why but I'm 100% convinced that he did murder them both
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I thought that also. It was going on a while not to be noticed, at the bank and the firm.
I am not convinced he was alone.
His lawyers have requested a re-trial on the basis that the court clerk worked behind the scenes to sway jurors to secure a quick guilty verdict so that she could then write a book about the trial (which she since has and was released 8/1).
I would LOVE to watch that played out again. It was must watch TV.
Affidavits by the jury members. This seems pretty strong to me but I’m not a lawyer. If what they are alleging is true then he deserves a retrial. She knew the juror that got kicked off late was a not guilty vote. Supposedly made up the Facebook post that she could not produce at the time of snitching.
I've read the Motion. There is enough there for a hearing on the merits. The Clerk needs to answer for her actions under oath.
She would lose her job at the very least. I'm not well versed on what, if any, criminal charges could be brought against her. But I would think those could follow. I imagine the AG's office is none too pleased right now.
I don’t know her but have been around her a few times. Think she was seeing dollar signs. Hope it didn’t cloud her judgement enough to do what the defense is claiming
Not certain it was just the dollar signs. I think there was personal animus toward Alex as well.
All Murdaugh and his defense want is another chance to roll the dice with a new jury (nothing to lose) - not sure it changes the outcome because the evidence shows he was there.
Changes a lot. It doesn’t matter what you think the evidence says, only what the jury thinks. Two jurors have signed affidavits that they were pressured to change their vote from not guilty. One presumable firm not guilty was removed because of a Facebook post this very clerk of court said she saw but could not produce it. Judge Newman took her word for it.
New jury likely to produce the same guilty verdict based on the evidence. Rolling the dice, but like I said, nothing to lose.