Thinking to Arizona opener for '99 season which we destroyed them. The thoughts today are Arizona FB was never the same. The 1999 Minnesota Game and the absolute gut punch that loss caused to the fans and to the program.
Yes, Sean Clifford was pretty much the last of that crew.No, it was almost 25 years ago. Almost nobody, and no one who makes any difference today was around the program then.
Yes, but only briefly. Probably will be the peak of Franklin's tenure.Is it fair to say the 2016 Big Ten Championship put something into to this program?
Not this one, but a good case could be made that the 48-14 destruction of then #1 Pitt in 1981 pretty much blew up their program.Thinking to Arizona opener for '99 season which we destroyed them. The thoughts today are Arizona FB was never the same. The 1999 Minnesota Game and the absolute gut punch that loss caused to the fans and to the program.
Maybe the peak of his tenure, but I’d argue that his current roster (and maybe others) has significantly more talent from top to bottom, and especially in depth, than he had in 2016. Our measuring stick is tosu…on paper, we’re pretty damn close…more so than we were back then.Yes, but only briefly. Probably will be the peak of Franklin's tenure.
Not long term, no. It certainly put that team in a tailspin which I would be surprised to see repeated by this team.
I will say this last loss has taken the wind out of my sails in a way I haven’t had happen since the early 2000s losing teams where I questioned even watching games. I have no real interest in watching this Saturday. I’ll watch Michigan mostly out of a sense of obligation but with no real belief in a chance to win.
I disagree. I think the 1974 loss to Navy was the real gut punch and led us to today.Thinking to Arizona opener for '99 season which we destroyed them. The thoughts today are Arizona FB was never the same. The 1999 Minnesota Game and the absolute gut punch that loss caused to the fans and to the program.
Huh? 2005 team on the phone.Thinking to Arizona opener for '99 season which we destroyed them. The thoughts today are Arizona FB was never the same. The 1999 Minnesota Game and the absolute gut punch that loss caused to the fans and to the program.
I was thinking Kentucky in 77I disagree. I think the 1974 loss to Navy was the real gut punch and led us to today.
About as much as the 1979 Sugar Bowl loss still does.Thinking to Arizona opener for '99 season which we destroyed them. The thoughts today are Arizona FB was never the same. The 1999 Minnesota Game and the absolute gut punch that loss caused to the fans and to the program.
Cold, non, stop rain-- --wooden bleachersI disagree. I think the 1974 loss to Navy was the real gut punch and led us to today.
If anything took the air out of this program, it was the Media and NCAA. 409!!!Thinking to Arizona opener for '99 season which we destroyed them. The thoughts today are Arizona FB was never the same. The 1999 Minnesota Game and the absolute gut punch that loss caused to the fans and to the program.
It didn't help, but neither did 4 losing seasons in 5 years with constant losses to Iowa, UM, and tOSU. PSU is basically 3 decades from their last truely elite season in 94. You can mix in 05 if you want to so it's 18 years or 2 times in the last 30 years. I think the perception that PSU was elite at any stretch in the last 30 years is for folks that lived through the 70's and 80's as the records dictate otherwise.Thinking to Arizona opener for '99 season which we destroyed them. The thoughts today are Arizona FB was never the same. The 1999 Minnesota Game and the absolute gut punch that loss caused to the fans and to the program.
Yes it did....in 1999.Thinking to Arizona opener for '99 season which we destroyed them. The thoughts today are Arizona FB was never the same. The 1999 Minnesota Game and the absolute gut punch that loss caused to the fans and to the program.
Yeah, and still it pops into my dreams biannually, I’d say. I invariably wake with cold iron in my gut. That was my rookie year on PlotIt. The meltdown that year, wow.No it hasn't but I remember that game like it was yesterday.![]()
Yeah, and still it pops into my dreams biannually, I’d say. I invariably wake with cold iron in my gut. That was my rookie year on PlotIt. The meltdown that year, wow.
oh, sure I did. Thank God the internet wasn’t around back then.I guess you didn't live through '79 Alabama in the Sugar Bowl.
oh, sure I did. Thank God the internet wasn’t around back then.
I can imagine the vitriol.good point, all we had back then was the letters to the editors of Catch Lion Fever.
This one felt like 6-4 to me. Opponent had absolutely zero respect for our offense in both.Cold, non, stop rain-- --wooden bleachers
but Iowa 6-4 is good as guess as any so is Toledo 24-6
That was one long *** bus ride from N.O. back to State College.I guess you didn't live through '79 Alabama in the Sugar Bowl.
The Jerry Sandusky scandal took more out of the fans and program than any one game could possibly do.Thinking to Arizona opener for '99 season which we destroyed them. The thoughts today are Arizona FB was never the same. The 1999 Minnesota Game and the absolute gut punch that loss caused to the fans and to the program.
By about a million.The Jerry Sandusky scandal took more out of the fans and program than any one game could possibly do.
I disagree. I think the 1974 loss to Navy was the real gut punch and led us to today.
Umm. 2008 also on the phone.It didn't help, but neither did 4 losing seasons in 5 years with constant losses to Iowa, UM, and tOSU. PSU is basically 3 decades from their last truely elite season in 94. You can mix in 05 if you want to so it's 18 years or 2 times in the last 30 years. I think the perception that PSU was elite at any stretch in the last 30 years is for folks that lived through the 70's and 80's as the records dictate otherwise.
This Board was brutal the weeks after that game.....in part because we were all writing our posts on scrolls and had to mail them to each other using Pony Express so it took a long time to get that game out of our system. A "like" was a thumbprint on the scroll.So many people thought the Lions would never recover from the 106 - 0 shellacking they took in (18)89
Do you wake up screaming "Turn around, Derek!"?Yeah, and still it pops into my dreams biannually, I’d say. I invariably wake with cold iron in my gut. That was my rookie year on PlotIt. The meltdown that year, wow.
With all due respect to Misters Short, Arrington and Brown....the defense blew 2 score 4th quarter leads in all three losses.I don’t think it permanently ruptured the program, but I did bring up the ‘99 team during the OSU game.
This year’s team is eerily similar to ‘98-99 when Kevin Thompson was QB. They had an absolutely dominant defense in ‘99 featuring guys like Courtney Brown and LaVar Arrington, and they couldn’t do anything on offense. Also, the play calling back then was the same ultra-conservative crap we’re seeing today.
Even an average offense would have been sufficient to beat Minnesota in ‘99.
And an average offense would’ve been enough to beat Ohio State on Saturday.