Is Texas the only team that will definitely get into the playoff?

GloryDawg

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A&M has a chance if they beat Texas and GA?
What does GA have to do to get in?
Tenn only needs to beat Vandy to get in?

Kind of nuts Tenn only needs one win.
 

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A&M has a chance if they beat Texas and GA?
What does GA have to do to get in?
Tenn only needs to beat Vandy to get in?

Kind of nuts Tenn only needs one win.
Honestly how does anyone justify a 10-2 Texas?

The greatest mystery to me is TAMU could get leaped by a 9-3 team bc they go 9-4 with a loss in the title game
 

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Texas - lock
Georgia - has to beat GA Tech or win the championship game (don't have to do both)
Tennessee - has to beat Vandy
A&M - has to beat Texas & Georgia
Alabama - needs to beat Auburn and hope GA or Tennessee lose this weekend.
Mississippi - has to beat MSU and get a lot of help both inside and outside the SEC
South Carolina - has to beat Clemson and hope for a miracle
 

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Honestly how does anyone justify a 10-2 Texas?

The greatest mystery to me is TAMU could get leaped by a 9-3 team bc they go 9-4 with a loss in the title game
After last weekend, who would you suggest should get in ahead of a 10-2 Texas? There is a pretty distinct line at the 12-13 ranking area. Big XII completely destroyed their chances at a first round bye after Saturday. Boise St is just there and has it locked up as long as they just win which is the most likely scenario but not guaranteed.

The most likely competition 10-2 Texas would have is the Clemson/South Carolina winner or 11-2 SMU or Miami.
 

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After last weekend, who would you suggest should get in ahead of a 10-2 Texas? There is a pretty distinct line at the 12-13 ranking area. Big XII completely destroyed their chances at a first round bye after Saturday. Boise St is just there and has it locked up as long as they just win which is the most likely scenario but not guaranteed.

The most likely competition 10-2 Texas would have is the Clemson/South Carolina winner or 11-2 SMU or Miami.
Bama for sure. They currently have 3 top 25 wins. If Florida gets ranked it helps TX. But I’d also have TAMU ahead of TX personally. But they haven’t beaten anyone and really don’t do well on the eye test
 
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Honestly how does anyone justify a 10-2 Texas?

The greatest mystery to me is TAMU could get leaped by a 9-3 team bc they go 9-4 with a loss in the title game
Which 7 non-conference champion teams would you put ahead of them?

I don't think they will have a good resume at 10-2. If they lose to A&M, their best win will be Vandy.

In a year with more teams that distinguished themselves, I think you absolutely put other teams in over them. But just for example, UTex got past UK and Florida, which Ole Miss couldn't do and they are more or less considered to be a team just outside of the playoffs. Bama has some better wins, but they fell to Vanderbilt and Oklahoma, both of whom UTex beat. I'm pretty sure all the 9-3 teams are going to have losses like that that UTex avoided, and the other 10-2 teams are generally going to have equally soft schedules.
 

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Which 7 non-conference champion teams would you put ahead of them?

I don't think they will have a good resume at 10-2. If they lose to A&M, their best win will be Vandy.

In a year with more teams that distinguished themselves, I think you absolutely put other teams in over them. But just for example, UTex got past UK and Florida, which Ole Miss couldn't do and they are more or less considered to be a team just outside of the playoffs. Bama has some better wins, but they fell to Vanderbilt and Oklahoma, both of whom UTex beat. I'm pretty sure all the 9-3 teams are going to have losses like that that UTex avoided, and the other 10-2 teams are generally going to have equally soft schedules.
There is not doubt it’s a mess trying to value good wins vs bad losses. I’d have TAMU over them though. TAMU would be the #1 team in the sec after tie breaks. And would have n OOC loss to a playoff team.
 

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Bama for sure. They currently have 3 top 25 wins. If Florida gets ranked it helps TX. But I’d also have TAMU ahead of TX personally. But they haven’t beaten anyone and really don’t do well on the eye test
Bama? The same team that got blown the 17 out by a bad Oklahoma team? And lost to VANDY? And A&M with 3 losses including one to Auburn? Are you on drugs?
 

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Bama? The same team that got blown the 17 out by a bad Oklahoma team? And lost to VANDY? And A&M with 3 losses including one to Auburn? Are you on drugs?
Yes. It’s an elaborate mix of things for my allergies. But TX could have zero ranked wins. Got dump tricked at home by Georgia who has been awful on the road. I think their resume is just as murky. They haven’t looked great either. Bama will have 3 top 25 wins. TAMU will have head to head. They would get my vote. You have to do more than argue against other teams. What’s the argument for Texas? If Indiana had 2 losses they wouldn’t be in with a similar situation. If Florida gets ranked that helps TX
 

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Yes. It’s an elaborate mix of things for my allergies. But TX could have zero ranked wins. Got dump tricked at home by Georgia who has been awful on the road. I think their resume is just as murky. They haven’t looked great either. Bama will have 3 top 25 wins. TAMU will have head to head. They would get my vote. You have to do more than argue against other teams. What’s the argument for Texas? If Indiana had 2 losses they wouldn’t be in with a similar situation. If Florida gets ranked that helps TX
3 bad losses trumps the top 25 wins. I guess you want to put Mississippi in too. After all, they have maybe the most impressive win of anyone in the conference except Georgia over Texas. Sorry, but losses matter.
 

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There is not doubt it’s a mess trying to value good wins vs bad losses. I’d have TAMU over them though. TAMU would be the #1 team in the sec after tie breaks. And would have n OOC loss to a playoff team.
A&M would have a decent argument (although that Auburn loss smells pretty bad), I just don't think there are going to be enough 3 loss teams with an argument to push Texas out. While Texas won't have any good wins if they lose to A&M, they still will have a lot of wins against teams that tripped up other teams, and will have a much better resume than a two loss team like Indiana. Hell, as down as the SEC arguably is this year, if Indiana gets to 11-1 and doesn't make it to the Big 10 championship, there 11-1 resume will still be weaker than UTex's. The only difference is that they will have played one good team and Texas will have played two, but Texas will have several more solid wins than Indiana.
 

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3 bad losses trumps the top 25 wins. I guess you want to put Mississippi in too. After all, they have maybe the most impressive win of anyone in the conference except Georgia over Texas. Sorry, but losses matter.
Neither of those teams have 3 bad losses. And I can assure you OM isn’t as far out of this as some think. Reasonable minds can differe. Stewart Mandel has TX at 8 and bama first out and OM second out.
 

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Neither of those teams have 3 bad losses. And I can assure you OM isn’t as far out of this as some think. Reasonable minds can differe. Stewart Mandel has TX at 8 and bama first out and OM second out.
Oh, I think Bama is in most likely. And Mississippi isn't completely out. But you can't put them above a 1-loss Texas team.
 

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What sucks and I hope the committee does right about is the fact a 9-3 SEC team who could be most of the teams that get in will be left out because the SEC eat themselves up.
 

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What sucks and I hope the committee does right about is the fact a 9-3 SEC team who could be most of the teams that get in will be left out because the SEC eat themselves up.
Just think how much worse it would be with a 9 game SEC schedule. I knew that was a stupid idea when so many were advocating for it.
 
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GloryDawg

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Just think how much worse it would be with a 9 game SEC schedule. I knew that was a stupid idea when so many were advocating for it.
I don't think the 9 SEC games will happen now. In fact, they will probably come up with a scheduling that helps stops it.
 
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I don't think the 9 SEC games will happen now. In fact, they will probably come up with a scheduling that helps stops it.
Yeah. Especially if the SEC does only get 3 in. Unless ESPN just kicks in a LOT of money, which they've shown no willingness at all to kick in any more money. I doubt we see the 1-7 rotation they proposed for an 8-game schedule though. Too many rivalry games lost. I think we'll see a 2-6 or 3-5 rotation. Or maybe 4 pods of 4 teams each, with each team having 1 permanent opponent outside their pod, with pods rotating being paired with another pod each year and the two winners playing in the championship game. That seems to make more sense than opponents winning percentage as the determining tiebreaker.
 

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Texas - lock
Georgia - has to beat GA Tech or win the championship game (don't have to do both)
Tennessee - has to beat Vandy
A&M - has to beat Texas & Georgia
Alabama - needs to beat Auburn and hope GA or Tennessee lose this weekend.
Mississippi - has to beat MSU and get a lot of help both inside and outside the SEC
South Carolina - has to beat Clemson and hope for a miracle
A&M has a tough row to hoe. They shouldn't have lost to Auburn, but they might've been looking ahead to their final two games.
 
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