Is Texas the only team that will definitely get into the playoff?
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Honestly how does anyone justify a 10-2 Texas?
The greatest mystery to me is TAMU could get leaped by a 9-3 team bc they go 9-4 with a loss in the title game
Texas - lock
Georgia - has to beat GA Tech or win the championship game (don't have to do both)
Tennessee - has to beat Vandy
A&M - has to beat Texas & Georgia
Alabama - needs to beat Auburn and hope GA or Tennessee lose this weekend.
Mississippi - has to beat MSU and get a lot of help both inside and outside the SEC
South Carolina - has to beat Clemson and hope for a miracle
Georgia - has to beat GA Tech or win the championship game (don't have to do both)
Tennessee - has to beat Vandy
A&M - has to beat Texas & Georgia
Alabama - needs to beat Auburn and hope GA or Tennessee lose this weekend.
Mississippi - has to beat MSU and get a lot of help both inside and outside the SEC
South Carolina - has to beat Clemson and hope for a miracle
After last weekend, who would you suggest should get in ahead of a 10-2 Texas? There is a pretty distinct line at the 12-13 ranking area. Big XII completely destroyed their chances at a first round bye after Saturday. Boise St is just there and has it locked up as long as they just win which is the most likely scenario but not guaranteed.
The most likely competition 10-2 Texas would have is the Clemson/South Carolina winner or 11-2 SMU or Miami.
Bama for sure. They currently have 3 top 25 wins. If Florida gets ranked it helps TX. But I’d also have TAMU ahead of TX personally. But they haven’t beaten anyone and really don’t do well on the eye test
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Which 7 non-conference champion teams would you put ahead of them?
I don't think they will have a good resume at 10-2. If they lose to A&M, their best win will be Vandy.
In a year with more teams that distinguished themselves, I think you absolutely put other teams in over them. But just for example, UTex got past UK and Florida, which Ole Miss couldn't do and they are more or less considered to be a team just outside of the playoffs. Bama has some better wins, but they fell to Vanderbilt and Oklahoma, both of whom UTex beat. I'm pretty sure all the 9-3 teams are going to have losses like that that UTex avoided, and the other 10-2 teams are generally going to have equally soft schedules.
There is not doubt it’s a mess trying to value good wins vs bad losses. I’d have TAMU over them though. TAMU would be the #1 team in the sec after tie breaks. And would have n OOC loss to a playoff team.
Bama? The same team that got blown the 17 out by a bad Oklahoma team? And lost to VANDY? And A&M with 3 losses including one to Auburn? Are you on drugs?
Yes. It’s an elaborate mix of things for my allergies. But TX could have zero ranked wins. Got dump tricked at home by Georgia who has been awful on the road. I think their resume is just as murky. They haven’t looked great either. Bama will have 3 top 25 wins. TAMU will have head to head. They would get my vote. You have to do more than argue against other teams. What’s the argument for Texas? If Indiana had 2 losses they wouldn’t be in with a similar situation. If Florida gets ranked that helps TX
3 bad losses trumps the top 25 wins. I guess you want to put Mississippi in too. After all, they have maybe the most impressive win of anyone in the conference except Georgia over Texas. Sorry, but losses matter.
A&M would have a decent argument (although that Auburn loss smells pretty bad), I just don't think there are going to be enough 3 loss teams with an argument to push Texas out. While Texas won't have any good wins if they lose to A&M, they still will have a lot of wins against teams that tripped up other teams, and will have a much better resume than a two loss team like Indiana. Hell, as down as the SEC arguably is this year, if Indiana gets to 11-1 and doesn't make it to the Big 10 championship, there 11-1 resume will still be weaker than UTex's. The only difference is that they will have played one good team and Texas will have played two, but Texas will have several more solid wins than Indiana.
Neither of those teams have 3 bad losses. And I can assure you OM isn’t as far out of this as some think. Reasonable minds can differe. Stewart Mandel has TX at 8 and bama first out and OM second out.
Oh, I think Bama is in most likely. And Mississippi isn't completely out. But you can't put them above a 1-loss Texas team.
Just think how much worse it would be with a 9 game SEC schedule. I knew that was a stupid idea when so many were advocating for it.
I don't think the 9 SEC games will happen now. In fact, they will probably come up with a scheduling that helps stops it.
Yeah. Especially if the SEC does only get 3 in. Unless ESPN just kicks in a LOT of money, which they've shown no willingness at all to kick in any more money. I doubt we see the 1-7 rotation they proposed for an 8-game schedule though. Too many rivalry games lost. I think we'll see a 2-6 or 3-5 rotation. Or maybe 4 pods of 4 teams each, with each team having 1 permanent opponent outside their pod, with pods rotating being paired with another pod each year and the two winners playing in the championship game. That seems to make more sense than opponents winning percentage as the determining tiebreaker.
A&M has a tough row to hoe. They shouldn't have lost to Auburn, but they might've been looking ahead to their final two games.
But Alabama has a couple of really bad losses too - Vanderbilt (always bad) and they pretty much screwed the pooch losing big to Oklahoma. If they get in it'll be because they're Alabama and will draw a crowd.
No team even remotely in contention for an at large bid has two losses that bad. Well, Mississippi does, but I think they're dead.
I would have Tex am above them and Bama as I said above and explained why. And yes I can see Tx over Indiana. Indiana has major issues on their schedule.
You would put in a 9-4 A&M over 10-2 Texas?
Bama’s somewhat understandable, but still pretty silly.
Overall, there just aren’t enough better teams. Before last weekend you could make a lot more arguments. But those are all dead after A&M, OM, and Bama all shít the bed.
Yes. The only reason they wouldn’t be 9-3 is because they played in sec cg. And the only reason they have a third loss is bc they didnt schedule some terrible p4. We are effectively telling teams. “Don’t schedule tough OOC and hope you don’t make the conference title game”. But TAMU would be the #1 seed in the sec with a third OOC loss to a playoff team.
The sec title game is an issue. If there is no title game don’t you put 9-3 TAMU in over 10-2 Texas?
Yeah I think all the teams poo pooing all over themselves on Saturday locks Texas in.
Georgia and Tennessee are both “win and in” this week.
Bama and Ole Miss both need a ton of help. And I believe Bama will be ahead of OM in the pecking order due to more Top 25 wins plus OM having the worst loss of the two.
A&M has to beat both Texas and Georgia.
Georgia and Tennessee are both “win and in” this week.
Bama and Ole Miss both need a ton of help. And I believe Bama will be ahead of OM in the pecking order due to more Top 25 wins plus OM having the worst loss of the two.
A&M has to beat both Texas and Georgia.
I kind of suspect there will be some serious pressure put on the Committee to figure out how and to be able to justify giving a at large bid to a 9-win SEC team. I think you who have said it are correct. Bama might get in. If it happens, I think it will be Bama.
It may be less pressure to take a 9-win team and simply the fact there's not much other choice. With 12 teams in the playoffs, you're going to have a couple of very marginal teams that get in simply because there's nobody better. From a competitive standpoint, 8 teams is plenty. But I understand why we have 12.
I think this could be settled other than the Big 12 championship after this weekend if favorites handle their business.
If the ACC title game is 11-1 Miami vs 11-1 SMU I don’t know how you justify bumping out the loser in favor of a 3 loss SEC team.
There are also several teams that could eat a loss and still get in.
If the ACC title game is 11-1 Miami vs 11-1 SMU I don’t know how you justify bumping out the loser in favor of a 3 loss SEC team.
There are also several teams that could eat a loss and still get in.
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