Jans adding insult to injury…

Maroon13

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The lack of a Target raises its ugly head again! Selmon needs to get on this YESTERDAY!!!
I know Auburn/Opelieka is a larger place ... but auburn has a Target downtown. I've never seen a Target like that..... regardless, Starkville needs this. Folks from many many miles around would shop there. (No sarcasterics)
 

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The money stolen from the cancer patient was primarily directed to two football players... as the FBI tapes showed, Wade and others were getting their money from the shoe companies
Well then, let’s rock and roll. I never saw those tapes or followed the story that closely
 

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They beat us that year but..." ULer" as they pronounce it in Little Rock, had a once in a lifetime player. He played for the lakers. Forget his name.

Also, I worked a career fair there once ... a decade ago, there is a plaque on the sidewalk on campus that memorializes that "ULer" was once a juco.
It was Derek Fisher. I believe Wimp Sanderson was their coach that year.
 

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It’s pretty well known among the folks close to the basketball program that Jans isn’t a fan of Starkville and wants out.

Selmon has been working on a list for a while. Probably why you haven’t seen an extension as well.
I said this in the extension thread. I know for a fact that Jans has said in some shape or form that Starkville isn’t for him.
 

85Bears

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Jan’s should have been locked up with an extension/raise after the tournament game, especially with the coaching carousel going on.
 
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They beat us that year but..." ULer" as they pronounce it in Little Rock, had a once in a lifetime player. He played for the lakers. Forget his name.

Also, I worked a career fair there once ... a decade ago, there is a plaque on the sidewalk on campus that memorializes that "ULer" was once a juco.
Was this the Wimp Sanderson game? My understanding is that we scheduled the game because Richard Williams and Wimp we’re buddies. I sat behind the UALR bench and could everything Wimp said, he was funny as hell without trying to be funny.
 

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At some point you have to start asking why. I personally would like to know. There’s no logical reason to leave us for Arkansas. They aren’t any more prestigious than us anymore, they’ve long since lost the label of ‘national title worthy’.
That is a ridiculous statement. Sure, they had a bad year this year, but the three previous years they made two Elite Eight’s and a Sweet 16. We haven’t won a tournament game since 2008. Arkansas also gets great attendance in a huge arena while we can’t sell out our little 9,200 seat arena unless we’re playing Ole Miss or Kentucky. Arkansas is 10 times the job MSU is in basketball. Let’s not be silly here.
 

85Bears

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He doesn’t want an extension. He wants to leave. An extension would only hurt his chances to do so.
How do you know that, he may be interviewing because he was not given a raise/extension
 

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If he leaves, get Will Wade and let’s ride.
Word. The only problem with Wade, how long would he be here before some richy Rich basketball powerhouse came and scooped him away. But yeah he’s who I’d target when Jans leaves.
 

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Send him on his way. Our fans prefer baseball because you don't need to get up and make noise. Also, wrt basketball, you can't grill at your seat. Let's just convert the hump into cold storage for the LFG
 
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Because he has said it to folks
I have no idea on what Jan’s thinks of his job here. When he tells folks Starkville is not for him and they are obviously State people. what are his reasons? You seem to know a lot about this topic just curious. Is it the town? Is it the lack of support of the basketball teams from an attendance perspective? Or is something else driving him away?
 

Perd Hapley

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Farrrt. Coaches look at potential. Arkansas is nothing but another program like anybody else. It’s ain’t 1995.

I do think that attendance part is legit, if true. Our attendance has held us back for years.
Arkansas is light years ahead of MSU in terms of potential, prestige, whatever you want to call it.

MSU is legitimately not even a Top 50 job in men’s basketball. We have a higher profile in football…..let that sink in.
 

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Arkansas is light years ahead of MSU in terms of potential, prestige, whatever you want to call it.

MSU is legitimately not even a Top 50 job in men’s basketball. We have a higher profile in football…..let that sink in.
Geez. No wonder coaches want to leave, when our fans spew shlt like this. And are willing to argue with any and everybody about it too.
 
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FlotownDawg

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Geez. No wonder coaches want to leave, when our fans spew shlt like this. And are willing to argue with any and everybody about it too.
Maybe they want to leave because our fans have unrealistic expectations and schitt all over the coaches and players when those are not met. Arkansas has more Sweet 16 appearances in the last four year than we have in our entire history. We can’t fill up the arena for an important SEC game but 11,000 people will sit out in the cold to watch our baseball team play VMI. We don’t have a good basketball history or basketball culture. Arkansas does.
 

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Geez. No wonder coaches want to leave, when our fans spew shlt like this. And are willing to argue with any and everybody about it too.
Well I mean it’s fact. We aren’t on their level.

last 4 seasons prior to this one they had won, 20, 25, 28, and 22… with a sweet 16 and 2 elite 8 trips.

the Arkansas was a better job in 1996 and is a better job now.
 

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Don't yall know MSU basketball is a stepping stone for coaches like Jans. I'm surprised he didn't take the Wichita State job. Big city lights, great fanbase for basketball, and certain they would exceed his salary at MSU. And same attributes with the Hogs in Fayetteville. MSU is a small market team. In fact, I'm still surprised we were able to get Ben Howland at the time we did. Ben just needed to hire a really good defensive mind, but he went instead with his AAU coaches to recruit instead of coaching ability.....and it cost him. MSU has to have a small town solid coach who likes small living. Nothing we can do about it.....it's just who we are.
 

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Geez. No wonder coaches want to leave, when our fans spew shlt like this. And are willing to argue with any and everybody about it too.
Anyone with any objectivity would know Arkansas is a much better basketball program than State and has been for some time. It’s not shítting on State when it’s actually a true statement.
 

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I have no idea on what Jan’s thinks of his job here. When he tells folks Starkville is not for him and they are obviously State people. what are his reasons? You seem to know a lot about this topic just curious. Is it the town? Is it the lack of support of the basketball teams from an attendance perspective? Or is something else driving him away?
It’s just not his fit. Doesn’t believe he can win at the level he wants to. And he just isnt a fan of the area.
 
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I would have thought something better than 0-2 in the tourney and 16-20 in the league would have been required to get poached. I hope we can manage to keep Hubb and Cam.
 
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85Bears

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Because he has said it to folks
Is there any link to this or is this third hand internet here say ?

It sounds like the admin failed to lock up Jan’s or they couldn’t agree on a raise
 

mstateglfr

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If someone doesn't like it in Vegas, what is he selling recruits on? "Come here, and then we can leave together for my next gig"?
Tuberville was hosting recruits and out at dinner when he left Texas Tech for Cincinnati. He was selling the recruits on Texas Tech then literally left in the middle of dinner.

Point being, what a coach says to recruits doesn't always align with what they want or plan.
 

Barkman Turner Overdrive

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Don't yall know MSU basketball is a stepping stone for coaches like Jans. I'm surprised he didn't take the Wichita State job. Big city lights, great fanbase for basketball, and certain they would exceed his salary at MSU. And same attributes with the Hogs in Fayetteville. MSU is a small market team. In fact, I'm still surprised we were able to get Ben Howland at the time we did. Ben just needed to hire a really good defensive mind, but he went instead with his AAU coaches to recruit instead of coaching ability.....and it cost him. MSU has to have a small town solid coach who likes small living. Nothing we can do about it.....it's just who we are.
This should not be a surprise because every stop seems to be a stepping stone for Jans. Look at his coaching history. The dude is a vagabond and Las Cruces is the only place he’s been for more than two.
 
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85Bears

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I would hire one of the good mid major coaches, St Louis just snagged Schertz from Indiana State. We certainly could have gotten him over St Louis. if you can’t get him , make a similar hire. Mountain West has several good coaches right now.
 
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I know Auburn/Opelieka is a larger place ... but auburn has a Target downtown. I've never seen a Target like that..... regardless, Starkville needs this. Folks from many many miles around would shop there. (No sarcasterics)
A lot of Auburn folks dislike that Target and the greater effort to raise the skyline. As someone who has been regularly wheeled to Targets over the years, I can't understand the hype...
 
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Maroon13

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In addition to basketball, that area of the country is nice with the mountains and clear water lakes. Fayetteville-Springdale-Rogers is all the same town and has the amenities of larger SEC towns like Tuscaloosa and Knoxville etc

Also the state of Arkansas from the NWA to LR to Se and sw Arkansas is all Razorback. You have the full backing of the entire state.
 
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