Jans adding insult to injury…

leeinator

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I would hire one of the good mid major coaches, St Louis just snagged Schertz from Indiana State. We certainly could have gotten him over St Louis. if you can’t get him , make a similar hire. Mountain West has several good coaches right now.
Wyoming had a coach that was on our short list before we hired Jans.
 

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Anyone with any objectivity would know Arkansas is a much better basketball program than State and has been for some time. It’s not shítting on State when it’s actually a true statement.
It actually is. And it’s because Arkansas isn’t anything special. It’s actually pretty telling about the state of MSU basketball and our fan support.
 
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mstateglfr

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I would hire one of the good mid major coaches, St Louis just snagged Schertz from Indiana State. We certainly could have gotten him over St Louis. if you can’t get him , make a similar hire. Mountain West has several good coaches right now.
Disagree. We should clearly promote from within and reward loyalty. Brooks has been on the bench since the invention of basketball and deserves a shot!**
 

jethreauxdawg

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Word. The only problem with Wade, how long would he be here before some richy Rich basketball powerhouse came and scooped him away. But yeah he’s who I’d target when Jans leaves.
If a rich school wants to hire our next coach away from us because he took us deep in the tournament 2-3 years in a row, I’ll help him pack.
 

Mr. Cook

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There is a more systemic issue than just the basketball program and “Targets.”

Objectively speaking, MSU, Starkville, and the Golden Triangle is simply not a destination. It is and likely always will be a stepping stone.

It’s not a referendum on the quality of the people and fabric that make up the community at large. However, it’s not an area that makes many people say to themselves: “I want/have to be there.” It has to be sold.

Sadly, it’s a hard sell
 

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Objectively speaking, MSU, Starkville, and the Golden Triangle is simply not a destination. It is and likely always will be a stepping stone.

I'm semi retired. I will gladly come coach, love coaching up defense. Would absolutely find no issue moving to Vegas. Was close to getting a management position at the tire plant a while back, with the wife's backing. I converted her to Bulldog some time ago.

Oh, and I'll work for cheap. Heh...I'd just have to give up access to this board, you guys are short tempered. 😀
 

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There is a more systemic issue than just the basketball program and “Targets.”

Objectively speaking, MSU, Starkville, and the Golden Triangle is simply not a destination. It is and likely always will be a stepping stone.

It’s not a referendum on the quality of the people and fabric that make up the community at large. However, it’s not an area that makes many people say to themselves: “I want/have to be there.” It has to be sold.

Sadly, it’s a hard sell
Biggest selling point is the baseball program/hoopla. And many of our fans want to divert money from it.
 

BoDawg.sixpack

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And it is so Miss State......picking a sport that nobody really cares about to be the number one sport. Does winning a national championship in baseball really equate to March Madness?
I pick football over baseball. I want a reason to be more excited about football than any other sport but that's hard to come by these days.
 

SteelCurtain74

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I hear Kenny Payne's available ***

In all seriousness, if a coach leaves on their own to better job, whether perceived or real, I'm okay with that. That means he/she had some level of success at MSU and it's not an Arnett situation where truly all hope was lost.

Not one single coach that MSU hires owes the university any loyalty more than what they are contractually obligated to provide. That road also runs both ways.

If Jans moves on, then so be it but to be outraged that he would leave MSU when just weeks ago people on this board were bashing him for not recruiting 3 point shooters and guys who couldn't make free throws is the highest form of hypocrisy.
 

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And it is so Miss State......picking a sport that nobody really cares about to be the number one sport. Does winning a national championship in baseball really equate to March Madness?
We could succeed in basketball - if our fans stepped up and made the commitment. We can do more with less resources.

But it’s more than money. We have plenty of that from football TV. We need to be able to say we are a winner. Baseball gives us that (or used to, but you get the point).

It’s not rocket science. You’re too shallow in your thinking.
 
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IBleedMaroonDawg

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It seems like we have that argument every week—baseball versus basketball versus football. I don't think it has been settled yet, and I don't think it will settled this time either.
 
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Mr. Cook

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Biggest selling point is the baseball program/hoopla. And many of our fans want to divert money from it.

Agreed. I was encouraged to hear there are plans for a 2nd set of condos.

We should double down - hell - triple down - on baseball. Period.
 
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travis.sixpack

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If we’re pushed out of the SEC or left out of a Super League because we suck at football, say bye to the welfare checks we get every year to funnel toward baseball.
 

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I hear Kenny Payne's available ***

In all seriousness, if a coach leaves on their own to better job, whether perceived or real, I'm okay with that. That means he/she had some level of success at MSU and it's not an Arnett situation where truly all hope was lost.
At least take me to dinner (finish above .500 in league play) before you 17 me.
 

beachbumdawg

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I don’t see the argument for staying

Mississippi State: 13 NCAA appearances
Arkansas: 35 NCAA appearances 14 Sweet 16

Mississippi State: 54% win percentage (not top 25 all time)
Arkansas: 65% win percentage (top 25 all time)
 

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We could succeed in basketball - if our fans stepped up and made the commitment. We can do more with less resources.

But it’s more than money. We have plenty of that from football TV. We need to be able to say we are a winner. Baseball gives us that (or used to, but you get the point).

It’s not rocket science. You’re too shallow in your thinking.
There is no reason we can’t duplicate what Bama did in basketball-final four, get a decent coach take some transfers out of the portal. Even what Florida did-National title is possible. Basketball and baseball should be invested in I agree.

I’m not confident football is even going to be competitive for several years, I think Arnett and Keenum just about buried that one given the current landscape.
 

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I don’t see the argument for staying

Mississippi State: 13 NCAA appearances
Arkansas: 35 NCAA appearances 14 Sweet 16

Mississippi State: 54% win percentage (not top 25 all time)
Arkansas: 65% win percentage (top 25 all time)
There's no question that their history is much better than ours, but a good coach should be able to win at either school. Arkansas's not Duke or North Carolina. His ceiling is about as high at Arkansas as it is here.

Of course, if he just doesn't want to live in Starkville, then that settles it.
 

Drebin

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Well I mean it’s fact. We aren’t on their level.

last 4 seasons prior to this one they had won, 20, 25, 28, and 22… with a sweet 16 and 2 elite 8 trips.

the Arkansas was a better job in 1996 and is a better job now.
And that's two more elite 8 trips than we've managed in 25 years.
 

She Mate Me

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And it is so Miss State......picking a sport that nobody really cares about to be the number one sport. Does winning a national championship in baseball really equate to March Madness?

It does if you like what you like and don't give a **** about what vapid people think you should like.
 
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It’s pretty simple in today’s college game. Coaches, players, concession stand sandwich artists… it doesn’t matter. Show me the money or I’ll find someone that will
 

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There's no question that their history is much better than ours, but a good coach should be able to win at either school. Arkansas's not Duke or North Carolina. His ceiling is about as high at Arkansas as it is here.

Of course, if he just doesn't want to live in Starkville, then that settles it.
This. You said it much better than I did.
 

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There is no reason we can’t duplicate what Bama did in basketball-final four, get a decent coach take some transfers out of the portal. Even what Florida did-National title is possible. Basketball and baseball should be invested in I agree.

I’m not confident football is even going to be competitive for several years, I think Arnett and Keenum just about buried that one given the current landscape.
Alabama has a top athletic department and budget
 

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I know I'm probably in the minority but there's few other places I want to live. Give me a place where I can go outside at night and not hear traffic, horns, loud radios, sirens, etc. I don't mind driving to places that have big shopping malls and nice restaurants. But that said, I'm not a D1 head coach with a few million burning a hold in my pocket and a taste for bright lights and all the attention. But a place I can step outside and take a whiz when I feel like it and listen to tree frogs and whip-or-wills at night while watching lightning bugs is right up my alley.
 

Perd Hapley

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Yet Kiffin is heading into Year 5
What’s your point? Ole Miss is outspending us on every athletic front except baseball stadium debt. They’re doing it because they want to and because they can. 20-25% more in donations they get in their AD budget than us every damn year. They simply have more money than we do. The truth hurts.
 
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ronpolk

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Time to bring back stans****

Being serious, if Jans hates Starkville then I’m guessing he’s hated every stop in his life. He grew up in a tiny town in Iowa and has coached at a collection of places that one one would confuse with NYC… maybe he likes corn fields
 
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