Kingston is an abject failure. ***

[Blues man]

Are you sure?

Last season, we were ranked the entire year and also won the series against CU.

After our sweep of #2 UF, we were #3 in the country with a 34-6 record before injuries and a batting slump.

We overcame that slump, made it to the Super Regionals, and lost a heart-breaker in the first game to UF on their home field which probably would have swung that 3-game series in our favor.

Even though they were runner-up in the CWS, UF was probably the best team in the country.

This season, we lost two 1-run games to a top ten Clemson team on the road.

What exactly is wrong with Kingston?

Last year was his best imo when it comes to what we were trying to accomplish at the plate. In fact we were trying to do things none of his other teams would attempt except maybe the covid year where we only played 10 games or so. That was after Washington won the World Series doing the same... more than one-dimensional, situational and the like and Kingston said we wanted to implement that philosophy. Keep in mind we were a really bad team before covid. His launch angle lessons and analytics had already failed. After the covid season was called and a new direction had begun or so we thought, we never saw the type of ball we were promised again until last year. Way pass due.
Now I actually see in some ways him trying to duplicate those type of appearances this year... which is good. Mixed results though. We will see how that works out. Time he has had. He needs to build on last year and make it at least look like we have a direction and we will absolutely without doubt progress through it to where we need to be. It may not be worth much, but it's my 2 cents.

 

[TheRoo]

Last year was his best imo when it comes to what we were trying to accomplish at the plate. In fact we were trying to do things none of his other teams would attempt except maybe the covid year where we only played 10 games or so. That was after Washington won the World Series doing the same... more than one-dimensional, situational and the like and Kingston said we wanted to implement that philosophy. Keep in mind we were a really bad team before covid. His launch angle lessons and analytics had already failed. After the covid season was called and a new direction had begun or so we thought, we never saw the type of ball we were promised again until last year. Way pass due.
Now I actually see in some ways him trying to duplicate those type of appearances this year... which is good. Mixed results though. We will see how that works out. Time he has had. He needs to build on last year and make it at least look like we have a direction and we will absolutely without doubt progress through it to where we need to be. It may not be worth much, but it's my 2 cents.

Totally agree. I just don't want us to forget we were one of the best teams in college baseball last season and are 8-3 and in the rankings as of today.

 

[Rogue Cock]

Don’t disagree at this point - Clemtech looked fundamentally more sound than we did which led to both wins and that falls back to coaching. I really thought Kingston could be a difference maker but so far this season I haven’t seen anything to prove me right.

Both teams had 5 hits yesterday. The difference was 3 solo HRs. Both teams struck out 23 times in the 2 games. Clemson did it one half inning less.

I fail to see in watching the 2 games where Bakich has guys making something happen at the plate. Last night we left 12 on base, Clemson left 11. They had 1 inning today where they scored on a ground ball to short, and a blip hit. Other than that, they did nothing. So not sure what exactly impressed you about their offense.

 

[Rogue Cock]

A requirement for the baseball coach should be you have to beat
clemtec at least 50% of the time!

Tanner's 1st seven regular seasons:

1997: 2-2
1998: 0-1
1999: 0-2
2000: 2-0
2001: 3-1
2002: 1-3
2003: 1-3

Total: 9-12

 

[Rogue Cock]

He’s only hired two. The first one was considered can’t miss and many would have crucified anyone involved in the hiring process if he had not been hired.

I don’t think many were very excited about hire number two. So far, for good reason.

After the Vandy and Florida coach (who were NEVER coming here) most wanted Lemonis (including me). I would guess you are glad we didn't make that hire.

 

[Rogue Cock]

That call can't come soon enough!!!!

Absent Powell being a USC grad, any AD would be hung in effigy for hiring a Div II coach....and rightly so. Let him move up a couple of levels first. If he doesn't want to.....that's on him.

 

[ThisMr X]

Here is what's scary: Baseball is Ray's wheelhouse. He has struck out every time he hires a Baseball Head Coach.

He’s only hired two

 

[Rogue Cock]

It's still very early in the season, but this has to be the make or break year. I think Super Regional or bust. Though that leaves room for the team to get hot and save him.

As other have pointed out, the SEC record isn't good. His best season was in year one when he went 17-13 in the league. So maybe it should be posting his best league record or bust. How they perform in the SEC is the best barometer for the strength of the program, I believe.

Tend to agree with this....but it is waaay too early in the season to be this doom and gloom. Waaay too early. He gets criticized for leaving Veach in for 3 innings a few games ago when he was pitich well, but was criticized for pulling him out after 2 this weekend. Its only about 10 games into a long season (and it's not like the majors where they have a 30 game preseason to figure everything out)....way to early to make any conclusions about anything. Does anyone even understand baseball any more or does everyone put everything into a football mindset? Geesh.

 

[Rogue Cock]

Two vastly different sports with vastly different expectations. Even Spurrier was only 11-13 in the SEC after three seasons (and only finished 4 games over .500 for his career at USC).

Except the SEC may now be a better baseball conference than it is a football conference and IMO has been for several years.

 

[Rogue Cock]

But it wasn't once in an era stuff. South Carolina baseball has consistently been one of the best programs in the nation for decades. From 2000 - 2014, the team always won 40+ games. Since then, we've had 40+ twice. The program has significantly declined.

Or other programs improved. Vandy hired a good baseball coach and can offers scholly's for all their players. Florida hired O'Sullivan and finally built him a new ball park. Several other schools began putting more money into the programs. Miss State has for a lot longer than us been one of the best programs in the nation with a very nice stadium. Ole Miss was given a huge infusion of money into their baseball program.

 

[Deleted11512]

Tend to agree with this....but it is waaay too early in the season to be this doom and gloom. Waaay too early. He gets criticized for leaving Veach in for 3 innings a few games ago when he was pitich well, but was criticized for pulling him out after 2 this weekend. Its only about 10 games into a long season (and it's not like the majors where they have a 30 game preseason to figure everything out)....way to early to make any conclusions about anything. Does anyone even understand baseball any more or does everyone put everything into a football mindset? Geesh.

Yeah, it’s early. But this Clemson team isn’t all that good. They’re overrated. We’re not very good either. For this team to be successful the transfers were going to have to be difference makers. Isn’t happening against a weaker noncon schedule. We have 3 starters hitting below the Mendoza line. Tippett is close at .206, and Causey is at .222. That’s 5 guys (more than half for you common core students) that are below .225. Guys just aren’t getting better. I mentioned in another post that we’ve had several games where we’ve had one good inning and 8 bad ones. Hope I’m wrong, but King has been here long enough to where it’s a pattern. Just think he is who he is and we are who we are.

 

[Forkcock]

Our program is bigger than Kingston.

Also, he needs to lose those damn hoodie shirts he wears. Those things look ridiculous.

 

[Blues man]

Yeah, it’s early. But this Clemson team isn’t all that good. They’re overrated. We’re not very good either. For this team to be successful the transfers were going to have to be difference makers. Isn’t happening against a weaker noncon schedule. We have 3 starters hitting below the Mendoza line. Tippett is close at .206, and Causey is at .222. That’s 5 guys (more than half for you common core students) that are below .225. Guys just aren’t getting better. I mentioned in another post that we’ve had several games where we’ve had one good inning and 8 bad ones. Hope I’m wrong, but King has been here long enough to where it’s a pattern. Just think he is who he is and we are who we are.

Someone's head should roll if we have another clean up hitter go undrafted... and I'm not talking about another hitting coach.

 

[gamecock stock]

He’s only hired two

And looking to become an awful percentage. It's hard to deny that, at the least, it's embarrassing for him to miss on a baseball hire.

 

[Prestonyte]

Absent Powell being a USC grad, any AD would be hung in effigy for hiring a Div II coach....and rightly saw. Let him move up a couple of levels first. If he doesn't want to.....that's on him.

How could hiring Powell be any worse than what we have gotten from out D1 hires?
Breaking the ''AD rules'' might be a good thing.

 

[will110]

Or other programs improved. Vandy hired a good baseball coach and can offers scholly's for all their players. Florida hired O'Sullivan and finally built him a new ball park. Several other schools began putting more money into the programs. Miss State has for a lot longer than us been one of the best programs in the nation with a very nice stadium. Ole Miss was given a huge infusion of money into their baseball program.

No argument from me that other programs improved...but we've still clearly declined. We should have been improving with the other programs, not allowing them to move ahead of us in the SEC's pecking order.

 

[Deleted11512]

Someone's head should roll if we have another clean up hitter go undrafted... and I'm not talking about another hitting coach.

Agree. Most of our guys are down from the end of last year. One would think that comparing current stats vs noncon competition to a full season would be advantageous. And that's my main concern. If these guys are struggling so much against this pitching, that has gifted us several walk in runs, what are they going to do against SEC pitching?

Name Last Current
Petry .376 .333
Messina .307 .190
Casas .259 .172
Tippett .182 .206 (filled in for McGillis/Wimmer who hit .313-14 HRs & .304 14 HRs)
Noland .277 .175 (last year @ Vandy. Replaced McGillis who hit .313 and 14 HRs)
Lecroy .289 .306
Brewer .240 .500

We are also down in fld %, going from .975 to .969.

EDIT: I had Tippett's stats reversed in the original. Corrected now.

 

[Deleted11512]

Or other programs improved. Vandy hired a good baseball coach and can offers scholly's for all their players. Florida hired O'Sullivan and finally built him a new ball park. Several other schools began putting more money into the programs. Miss State has for a lot longer than us been one of the best programs in the nation with a very nice stadium. Ole Miss was given a huge infusion of money into their baseball program.

Vandy and UF hired guys that had never been a HC. They've been great as a HC. But it's not like they went out and broke the bank on a proven commodity. We hired a guy with a very average record as a HC, and that's exactly what we're getting from him. Nobody should be shocked.

MSU hasn't been one of the best programs in the nation for a lot longer than us. They've been to Omaha 12 times to our 11. We've won 3 more regionals than they have. We've played in 6 championship series to their 2. We have 2 NCs to their 1. They didn't win a regional until 1979, compared to 1975 for us. The first time they played in a championship series was 2013, vs 1975 for us.

 

[92Pony]

Yeah, it’s early. But this Clemson team isn’t all that good. They’re overrated. We’re not very good either. For this team to be successful the transfers were going to have to be difference makers. Isn’t happening against a weaker noncon schedule. We have 3 starters hitting below the Mendoza line. Tippett is close at .206, and Causey is at .222. That’s 5 guys (more than half for you common core students) that are below .225. Guys just aren’t getting better. I mentioned in another post that we’ve had several games where we’ve had one good inning and 8 bad ones. Hope I’m wrong, but King has been here long enough to where it’s a pattern. Just think he is who he is and we are who we are.

Sorry, but the levity this brought needed to be recognized.

 

[Blues man]

Agree. Most of our guys are down from the end of last year. One would think that comparing current stats vs noncon competition to a full season would be advantageous. And that's my main concern. If these guys are struggling so much against this pitching, that has gifted us several walk in runs, what are they going to do against SEC pitching?

Name Last Current
Petry .376 .333
Messina .307 .190
Casas .259 .172
Tippett .182 .206 (filled in for McGillis/Wimmer who hit .313-14 HRs & .304 14 HRs)
Noland .277 .175 (last year @ Vandy. Replaced McGillis who hit .313 and 14 HRs)
Lecroy .289 .306
Brewer .240 .500

We are also down in fld %, going from .975 to .969.

EDIT: I had Tippett's stats reversed in the original. Corrected now.

Messina's stats wouldn't be that high if he hadn't gotten several fastballs down the middle of the plate the last four or five games. I wouldn't doubt that's the case for some other guys as well but I have been keeping a closer eye on Messina hoping to see some changes.

 

[Deleted11512]

Messina's stats wouldn't be that high if he hadn't gotten several fastballs down the middle of the plate the last four or five games. I wouldn't doubt that's the case for some other guys as well but I have been keep a closer eye on Messina hoping to see some changes.

100%! Moose has 8 hits and 4 of them were HRs. We've faced some pretty bad pitching so far. Makes me very nervous that these guys can't seem to hit them.

 

[18IsTheMan]

I said after last season's collapse that we should have moved on. It's all about playing the odds. At this point, is more or less likely that we will be successful under Kingston? Seems to me to be inevitable that we will move on, so why delay the inevitable.

 

[Forkcock]

Kingston is the Perry Como of coaching.

 

[jasonscottinsc]

The stupidity of our fans never ceases to amaze me. Team lost 2 one-run games to a top 10 team in March .... I seem to recall Ray losing games to Clemson and still having a great year. USC was a top 10 team last year and has the talent to be that again this year. Why do you all give up so easily?

For those that don't like Kingston, who do you want that USC could get? For those saying Landon Powell, please stop. If he wasn't a USC alum and someone suggested we hire at D2 coach, you would absolutely lose your mind. Big difference. Not saying LP can't be a D1 coach in the future, but you know what, none of the other power 5 schools are hiring him either!!!!

Starting over with a new coach is idiocy right now.

As for Ray's hiring ability:
1) Holbrook was the right hire AT THE TIME of the hire. That's a fact. It didn't work out, but that doesn't mean it wasn't the right hire at that time. It happens (Just like Texas hiring "can't miss" Tom Herman a few years back (who some of our fans wanted).... guess what? A good hire that didn't work out. It happens all the time!)
2) Kingston was a guy who had success at programs without resources and what he inherited wasn't the same program Chad inherited. The landscape of college baseball has changed considerably. Admittedly, Kingston was not first choice as USC was very close to signing O'Sullivan from Florida - if he hadn't won the CWS that year and his AD building him a new stadium, he would have been here, but we had to move one.
3) Lamont Paris - obviously a great hire and you morons who trashed Paris last year or when he lost to Clemson this year proved your ignorance
4) Beamer - seems like a good hire. It made sense. Next to Vanderbilt, coaching USC football may be the biggest challenge in the SEC. That's been proven by 100+ years of mostly crappy football.
5) Muschamp - obviously the least popular and least successful hire after UGA backdoored Ray with Kirby Smart. It was OK for 2 years and for whatever reason, it sunk after that. This was Ray's biggest miss, but the rest of the hires, I'm good with.

Also note - Ray is the one that kept Dawn Staley from taking the Ohio State job about six or seven years ago. That's a fact.

 

[CCUIrmo]

I'm glad to see a general posting regarding the Holbrook hire as a good one at the time of the hire which didn't pan out.

Hard to get excited about Kingston.

The problem with hiring Kingston is he was a last minute band-aid hire. Ray put all his eggs in the basket of the guy at Florida and thought he was coming until they won the National Title. The he changed his mind and Ray was left in early July looking for a coach last minute.

 

[Lurker123]

If a good hire "didn't work out", was it really a good hire?

 

[Deleted11512]

If a good hire "didn't work out", was it really a good hire?

I agree with him on that. Holbrook was viewed as the top assistant in the game, and one of the top up and coming coaches in the country. That was the right move at the time.

 

[Lurker123]

I agree with him on that. Holbrook was viewed as the top assistant in the game, and one of the top up and coming coaches in the country. That was the right move at the time.

I don't really care about baseball, so I'm not trying to argue one coach over another.

Just the comment was what caught me.

If it was a good hire "at the time" that ended up being a bad hire, it's still a bad hire, right? It's just that we, amongst many others, were fooled at the time?

 

[Deleted11512]

The stupidity of our fans never ceases to amaze me. Team lost 2 one-run games to a top 10 team in March .... I seem to recall Ray losing games to Clemson and still having a great year. USC was a top 10 team last year and has the talent to be that again this year. Why do you all give up so easily?

For those that don't like Kingston, who do you want that USC could get? For those saying Landon Powell, please stop. If he wasn't a USC alum and someone suggested we hire at D2 coach, you would absolutely lose your mind. Big difference. Not saying LP can't be a D1 coach in the future, but you know what, none of the other power 5 schools are hiring him either!!!!

Starting over with a new coach is idiocy right now.

As for Ray's hiring ability:
1) Holbrook was the right hire AT THE TIME of the hire. That's a fact. It didn't work out, but that doesn't mean it wasn't the right hire at that time. It happens (Just like Texas hiring "can't miss" Tom Herman a few years back (who some of our fans wanted).... guess what? A good hire that didn't work out. It happens all the time!)
2) Kingston was a guy who had success at programs without resources and what he inherited wasn't the same program Chad inherited. The landscape of college baseball has changed considerably. Admittedly, Kingston was not first choice as USC was very close to signing O'Sullivan from Florida - if he hadn't won the CWS that year and his AD building him a new stadium, he would have been here, but we had to move one.
3) Lamont Paris - obviously a great hire and you morons who trashed Paris last year or when he lost to Clemson this year proved your ignorance
4) Beamer - seems like a good hire. It made sense. Next to Vanderbilt, coaching USC football may be the biggest challenge in the SEC. That's been proven by 100+ years of mostly crappy football.
5) Muschamp - obviously the least popular and least successful hire after UGA backdoored Ray with Kirby Smart. It was OK for 2 years and for whatever reason, it sunk after that. This was Ray's biggest miss, but the rest of the hires, I'm good with.

Also note - Ray is the one that kept Dawn Staley from taking the Ohio State job about six or seven years ago. That's a fact.

It's not about just the Clem games. We haven't looked sharp all year. Have you watched the games, not just the final scores? What we're doing ain't gonna cut it in the SEC. And that's my issue. It's year 6. We should be seeing improvement and there's no improvement from Holbrook. I don't see what's keeping him here. USC was not a top 10 team last year. We finished 17 on Baseball America and 13 on D1 baseball. I hope I am wrong, and he surprises me. We started hot last year and regressed. We've picked up where we left off last year.

I've been a Lamont Paris supporter from day he was hired. He took over a bad situation and made it better. Shane Beamer took over a bad situation and has made it better so far. We fired Holbrook a year after he won the east, hosted a regional, and hosted a super (both as a 1 see, not given to us bc the 1 seed didn't have facilities). Mark Kingston has not improved that situation. Holbrook's last year he was 13-17 in the SEC. Kingston has had 2 years of equal or WORSE SEC results. Kingston's high point in SEC wins is 17....his first year with Holbrook's players. Holbrook won at least 17 in 3 of his 5 years. Kingston SEC win totals: 17, 8, 16, 13, 16. He just is what he is, and that's not good enough for our program.

Ray deserves credit for keeping Dawn. Pretty sure UVA was a thread at some point as well. He deserves credit for LP. He got a good one there. Jury is out on Beamer. King was a miss. He was not a "success". We hired him away from a 35-37 AAC record at USF. Nobody should be surprised that after 5 years he's 70-79 in the SEC.

 

[Deleted11512]

I don't really care about baseball, so I'm not trying to argue one coach over another.

Just the comment was what caught me.

If it was a good hire "at the time" that ended up being a bad hire, it's still a bad hire, right? It's just that we, amongst many others, were fooled at the time?

Yeah, he turned out to be a bad hire. But you can't blame RT for that. Now if Beamer fails, that's a very bad hire bc there was nothing in his history that would suggest he would be good. Same with King. UGA was going after LP if UF didn't fire Mike White. He was in demand.

 

[jasonscottinsc]

It's not about just the Clem games. We haven't looked sharp all year. Have you watched the games, not just the final scores? What we're doing ain't gonna cut it in the SEC. And that's my issue. It's year 6. We should be seeing improvement and there's no improvement from Holbrook. I don't see what's keeping him here. USC was not a top 10 team last year. We finished 17 on Baseball America and 13 on D1 baseball. I hope I am wrong, and he surprises me. We started hot last year and regressed. We've picked up where we left off last year.

I've been a Lamont Paris supporter from day he was hired. He took over a bad situation and made it better. Shane Beamer took over a bad situation and has made it better so far. We fired Holbrook a year after he won the east, hosted a regional, and hosted a super (both as a 1 see, not given to us bc the 1 seed didn't have facilities). Mark Kingston has not improved that situation. Holbrook's last year he was 13-17 in the SEC. Kingston has had 2 years of equal or WORSE SEC results. Kingston's high point in SEC wins is 17....his first year with Holbrook's players. Holbrook won at least 17 in 3 of his 5 years. Kingston SEC win totals: 17, 8, 16, 13, 16. He just is what he is, and that's not good enough for our program.

Ray deserves credit for keeping Dawn. Pretty sure UVA was a thread at some point as well. He deserves credit for LP. He got a good one there. Jury is out on Beamer. King was a miss. He was not a "success". We hired him away from a 35-37 AAC record at USF. Nobody should be surprised that after 5 years he's 70-79 in the SEC.

If I recall, USC was a top 10 team last year before they lost 3/4 of their infield due to injury for a couple of weeks. I don't put that on coaching. And yeah, I do watch the games. I see a pitching staff that is ahead of schedule and an experienced hitting lineup that hasn't hit their stride yet. We went to Supers last year. I don't see the reason to fire a coach 11 games into a season after making it to supers last year. That's just dumb. Let the season play out.

 

[Deleted11512]

If I recall, USC was a top 10 team last year before they lost 3/4 of their infield due to injury for a couple of weeks. I don't put that on coaching. And yeah, I do watch the games. I see a pitching staff that is ahead of schedule and an experienced hitting lineup that hasn't hit their stride yet. We went to Supers last year. I don't see the reason to fire a coach 11 games into a season after making it to supers last year. That's just dumb. Let the season play out.

haha. Every year the same story with him. "Injuries". The year before it was the pitching staff with injuries.

I never said he should be fired now. He absolutely should get the entirety of the season to prove himself. I simply don't think he can. His max effort is a super regional runner up. No, that's not good enough.

 

[Prestonyte]

Kingston is the Perry Como of coaching.

This team looks and plays like it is being coached by a computer/robot!

 

[Sweetwatergolf]

If I recall, USC was a top 10 team last year before they lost 3/4 of their infield due to injury for a couple of weeks. I don't put that on coaching. And yeah, I do watch the games. I see a pitching staff that is ahead of schedule and an experienced hitting lineup that hasn't hit their stride yet. We went to Supers last year. I don't see the reason to fire a coach 11 games into a season after making it to supers last year. That's just dumb. Let the season play out.

I definitely don't mean to fire him now. When the season finishes, hopefully RT will evaluate what needs to happen. Our opinion doesn't matter. It does matter on ticket sales however.
Pitching coach has earned his credit, so far. I do wonder how much influence MK has over ML on batting strategy. IMO, ML would have more experience as it pertains to hitting instruction. But, he does work for for MK the HC.

 

[Deleted11512]

I definitely don't mean to fire him now. When the season finishes, hopefully RT will evaluate what needs to happen. Our opinion doesn't matter. It does matter on ticket sales however.
Pitching coach has earned his credit, so far. I do wonder how much influence MK has over ML on batting strategy. IMO, ML would have more experience as it pertains to hitting instruction. But, he does work for for MK the HC.

Yeah, I do like the pitching coach move. King got a good one there. I too wonder about who is really pulling the strings on the hitting. From what I've gathered over the years, King was very involved in hitting. Hard to imagine ML would have taken this job to be micro managed. Either way, it's his title, and what's going on right now isn't a good look for either one of them.

 

[Deleted11512]

Can I just say how awesome it is that @Freddie.B.Cocky drops this thread and just leaves it to watch the replies...or ignore it all together. I could never.

 

[Pepsicock]

I wanted to know if it is as bad as it feels, so I went and looked; Since 2018, Kingston is 8-12 vs Clemson...... 8-12......

2018 - 1-2
2019 - 2-1
2020 - 1-2
2021 - 2-1
2022 - 0-3
2023 - 2-1
2024 - 0-2

A lot of USC coaches has lost to

nm

Would you fire all these former coaches at USC? Our history against clemmy is horrible

Kingston: 8-12

2018: 1-2
2019: 2-1
2020: 1-2
2021: 2-1
2022: 0-3
2023: 2-1
2024: 0-2

Holbrook: 8-7

2013: 2-1
2014: 3-0
2015: 1-2
2016: 1-2
2017: 1-2

Tanner: 34-26

1997: 2-2
1998: 0-1
1999: 0-2
2000: 2-0
2001: 3-1
2002: 3-3 (2-0 Omaha)
2003: 1-3
2004: 2-2
2005: 2-2
2006: 1-3
2007: 3-1
2008: 4-0
2009: 2-2
2010: 3-2 (2-0 Omaha)
2011: 2-1
2012: 4-1 (2-0 Regional)

Raines: 37-49

1977: 3-0
1978: 1-2
1979: 1-3
1980: 2-5 (0-2 Regional)
1981: 3-1
1982: 3-1
1983: 2-2
1984: DNP
1985: 6-0
1986: 2-4
1987: 0-4
1988: 2-3
1989: 2-4
1990: 3-3
1991: 2-4
1992: 1-2
1993: 1-3
1994: 2-1
1995: 1-3
1996: 0-4

Richardson: 6-10

1970: 1-2
1971: 0-2
1972: 1-2
1973: 1-2
1974: 1-0
1975: 1-0
1976: 1-2

 

[Blues man]

A lot of USC coaches has lost to

Would you fire all these former coaches at USC? Our history against clemmy is horrible

Kingston: 8-12

2018: 1-2
2019: 2-1
2020: 1-2
2021: 2-1
2022: 0-3
2023: 2-1
2024: 0-2

Holbrook: 8-7

2013: 2-1
2014: 3-0
2015: 1-2
2016: 1-2
2017: 1-2

Tanner: 34-26

1997: 2-2
1998: 0-1
1999: 0-2
2000: 2-0
2001: 3-1
2002: 3-3 (2-0 Omaha)
2003: 1-3
2004: 2-2
2005: 2-2
2006: 1-3
2007: 3-1
2008: 4-0
2009: 2-2
2010: 3-2 (2-0 Omaha)
2011: 2-1
2012: 4-1 (2-0 Regional)

Raines: 37-49

1977: 3-0
1978: 1-2
1979: 1-3
1980: 2-5 (0-2 Regional)
1981: 3-1
1982: 3-1
1983: 2-2
1984: DNP
1985: 6-0
1986: 2-4
1987: 0-4
1988: 2-3
1989: 2-4
1990: 3-3
1991: 2-4
1992: 1-2
1993: 1-3
1994: 2-1
1995: 1-3
1996: 0-4

Richardson: 6-10

1970: 1-2
1971: 0-2
1972: 1-2
1973: 1-2
1974: 1-0
1975: 1-0
1976: 1-2

Gotta love that Tanner vs Tater post season record. Doesnt get any better than that.

 

[Prestonyte]

Can I just say how awesome it is that @Freddie.B.Cocky drops this thread and just leaves it to watch the replies...or ignore it all together. I could never.

Fly on the wall!

 

[jasonscottinsc]

haha. Every year the same story with him. "Injuries". The year before it was the pitching staff with injuries.

I never said he should be fired now. He absolutely should get the entirety of the season to prove himself. I simply don't think he can. His max effort is a super regional runner up. No, that's not good enough.

So you don't think injuries played a big role in their not getting to the next level? What was it 2 years ago, 6 or 7 pitchers lost to injury? You can't win if you don't have arms. Everyone has an injury here and there, but that was excessive.

Last year, the team was great, but again, you lose your three of your starting infielders for several weeks, that led to some losses which definitely influenced their seeding. If that doesn't happen, I have no doubt that they get a better draw and don't end up in Gainesville.

Time will tell, but I remember when Ray lost in Supers back to back years, folks thought he couldn't get to Omaha, then he did for three years. Then they didn't get back for a while and fans though he couldn't get back.. then he did. My point is, USC was really good last year and barring a rash of injuries they should be really good this year. I just think it's dumb to hit the panic button after 2 one-run losses.