LA Fire question for any timber guys on here
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Although true, this more brick/tile/concrete solution ironically has a much higher carbon footprint than building with wood.
I love the fact that a strange ironically karmic horizon is quickly approaching. Environmentalists have gone so far, that even their own solutions will directly contradict their own agenda.
I didn't say LA's water system was reasonable for that area. I don't know anything about that. All I said is they have plenty of water, they are just unable to deliver it fast enough to the Palisades. This story about wasting water from the North is just irrelevant.
I'm not yet convinced neglect and incompetence 100% led to this, but you may be proven right
How much carbon was released into the atmosphere with the entire town burning down. This carbon footprint crap is BS.
It would be impossible to contain these fires with 90 mph winds and steep terrain so probably not much they could do about it after it started. However, as others pointed out, controlled burning is a common tool used in many areas to help avoid having the fuel there for the fire to use to begin with. Also, California has had overall water problems for a long time and yet the Sierra’s have a huge snow pack every winter much of which simply drains off into the Pacific Ocean. That’s just dumb. Surely they could find many, many uses for that water, one of which might be fighting wild fires.
You can also shave a few million dollars off the budget, and nothing will ever happen.
Some random person could read this thread and accurately guess the politics of 90% of the posters in it.
The ignorant assumptions, misinformation, and conclusions that have been jumped to are always entertaining to read.
It's wild to see how a handful of posters never seem to learn to at least get correct and complete information before they work to make reality fit their preconceived notions.
The ignorant assumptions, misinformation, and conclusions that have been jumped to are always entertaining to read.
It's wild to see how a handful of posters never seem to learn to at least get correct and complete information before they work to make reality fit their preconceived notions.
When I saw the thread title ask for any timber guys, I thought, “oh, yeah, we’ve got some timber guys here”
I can’t believe the mods tolerate this type of extreme racism
Don't they use most of the snow pack to provide water throughout Central California?
Most developments in wildfire prone areas have to mitigate the risk with materials and landscaping these days. My house was built in 2020-21 and meets firewise standards. My yard is gravel, my roof is metal standing seam, and my siding is a mix of fire resistant wood plastic composite and corogated metal.
As far as these disasters they are almost all related to severe storms and hurricanes in the Eastern half of the US.
The fact that they had full reservoirs around Los Angeles and cut 17 million dollars on fire in Los Angeles may make this a terrible day for the officials elected, no matter what party you affiliate with.
I give you the LA deputy fire chief
www.newsweek.com
LAFD deputy chief faces backlash for past remarks on fire victims
A resurfaced clip appears to show LAFD's Kristine Larson blaming victims of fires for getting into a position where they would need help.
www.newsweek.com
just wondering...cant they use pumper trucks and pump water in from the ocean ?
Well to me it's the winds that make it impossible to manage ...all the water in the world can't stop the fire when it's moving that fast....
No shít Sherlock. Got any actual input other to let us know how inferior these people’s opinions are to yours.
Nothing that hadn't been said already, and I am far from an expert on CA wildfire prevention or containment, so I didn't have anything new to add either.
As for your comment about how I view the opinions of others...I found much of this thread to be informative and interesting. I valued most of the commentary.
Thru reading the thread, I noticed that a lot of people were regurgitating total BS so I commented on iI, since it's a message board.
Is this a new initiative of yours- expecting everyone to only comment on the post topic?
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I didn’t miss this during my hiatus….although somehow it fills me back up.
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I didn’t miss this during my hiatus….although somehow it fills me back up.
Doubt it would have prevented with 100 mph winds, BUT........would have certainly lessened the damage and given firefighters a better chance at controlling it. Might have prevented a NORMAL LA area fire that usually has like 30-50 mph winds every year. Newsome and others definitely dropped the ball on not keeping the forest floors cleaned out. Even worse was when he ordered the tearing down of reservoir dams that provided plenty of water to help in the dry seasons.....for a Smelt fish no less. I've eaten fried Smelt in Michigan many years ago....it's nothing special. Bad reason to take away large water sources that Southern LA needs every year.
Honest question that I’m sure someone will claim I got from someone on tv that I don’t watch:
If the winds make the fire impossible (or at least unmanageable no matter how much water is available) to put out like some are saying here, why were the LAFD throwing literal purse full amounts of water on homes et al? Seems like spitting on the fire would have the same effect. Why bother trying to fight or contain it if the winds make it all futile?
Again, honest question since those of us that are critical of how this has been handled are completely ignorant of this situation that so many others have more insight on.
If the winds make the fire impossible (or at least unmanageable no matter how much water is available) to put out like some are saying here, why were the LAFD throwing literal purse full amounts of water on homes et al? Seems like spitting on the fire would have the same effect. Why bother trying to fight or contain it if the winds make it all futile?
Again, honest question since those of us that are critical of how this has been handled are completely ignorant of this situation that so many others have more insight on.
When the wind calms they get more containment. Yesterday the wind calmed considerably and that allows them to fly on more water by air.
They have some reservoirs where the run off is captured but much of it just drains off into the Pacific. There is some minnow that lives in the streams they are hung up about so they won’t dam them up. They could dig new channels and route the water where needed but for whatever reason they don’t do it. Southern California farmers typically irrigate with water coming from Lake Mead but that has been reduced in recent years because Lake Mead had gotten so low. Of course, the water from lake Powell which feeds Lake Mead is what allows Vegas to exist. That water comes from the Rockies snow pack in Colorado and southern Wyoming. The real problem is that we have millions of people living in places that are arid / desert environments and never ment to support those large populations. It’s hot and dry because it’s the desert. Duh….. Utilizing the snow pack from the Sierra’s in every way possible seems like a no brainer to me but I guess they have their reasons. I am not a fan of coastal California or the mindset of most of their people. Used to occasionally travel out there on business and every time I went I always hoped that I would never have to go back. With all that being said I do feel for the people that have lost their homes and businesses. Hopefully they will learn some lessons from this disaster, but I doubt it.
Why don’t you just share the answer to this question that you obviously just googled and stop acting like you’re the smartest person in the room? I think it’s a legit question.
Thanks. I understand that but I don’t understand how if water doesn’t matter, why were some LAFD acting like a comedy group with purses full of pool water?
Well, you’d corrode all your equipment & poison the soil. Might be worth it though if only way to stop the fires. Though I suspect the lead time to replace your corroded equipment would be a couple of years, during which time you’d at least severely limited fighting other fires.
I walk in the woods multiple times a year. Even know a lot of the trees names.
So yeah...
I'm a '"Timber Guy"
Obviously...
Yep, the massive pumps, tanker trucks, literal miles of pipes/hoses would corrode very quickly - if they existed in the first place.
She's got a lotta filtering going on, but yeah, absolute top level for a woman in her 50's.
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