Ok I give up. You’re right. The coach who has lost 10 rivalry games in a row against teams that are mostly equal to his for 11 weeks per season actually is a good rivalry game coach. I’m still a little fuzzy on how that’s possible, but I believe you.
Leach might actually have some motivation for this rivalry game.....
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You sound like a MSU fan walking out of the Vet in like 1983. Unfortunately, I do think you’re correct, because a majority of our fans think like you. You’re wrong, but you’re still the majority. Kind of like US politics.
Such is life in this fanbase. Maybe one day we will move past this.
I’m really fuzzy on what “bad at rivalry games” means at all. Does the rivalry freak him out and he can’t think? Does he get too excited and not prep his team? It’s just a made up arbitrary idea that has zero basis.
It makes more sense that he just normally doesn’t have as good of a team as his rival. That’s an actual thing
You will NEVER move past it. You can't. If we aren't beating them at least as much as they are beating us then we are never going to get where we all want to go. That is the minimum foundation you have to have.
Somehow you seem to think your reasoning makes losing almost every time to rivals ok. Whose fault is it that he consistently doesn't have as good of teams as his rivals? Washington wasn't that much better if any that WSU was during His time there. I'm a big PAC fan. He should have won at least half of those games. He won one.
Back in the Shira and Walker years I doubt we could afford to fire a coach that had years left on his contract.
The only part I’m fuzzy on is how UW isn’t better than WSU 11 weeks out of the year, but is better than them 1week out of the year. But I’m sure you’re right about that. Somehow.
I dont at all excuse it. I have no idea what you are talking about. And once Petersen got there he wears way better. 3 division titles. 2 conf titles. A playoff appearance. The programs were very close. If they were so close Leach could have at least stayed within one score after year 1. Instead he lost by 3 scores most of the time. I watched the Apple cup a lot. It was a total mismatch.
Do you not see the crazies in this thread? Living for a rival is a real thing.
I do think Leach himself is more like what you describe, as far as Ole Miss. he does have a weird affinity for aTm though, played them hard at Texas Tech and now here. So he’s not immune to the rivalry obsession either, it’s just for weird teams.
Again, somehow you seem to think that makes it OK. It doesn't. It actually makes it much worse.
I literally have no idea why you think I think it’s ok. Its not. It’s why he loses and yes, it’s way worse. OM was better than us last year. We lost. They are better than us this year. We will lose. And it’s not OK.
Rivalry is a real thing in sports. It is what MAKES it. When you get right down to it, your rival might not be the team you actually want to beat the most. It is the team that you deep down just can not stand to lose to.
That bothers me too, but our team almost entirely opted out of the game. Still should have beat those guys with our backups.
Yes. We agree!!! It does not excuse it. He needs to make us as good or better than our rival.
I think if you do some research you will notice that Washington recruited light years ahead of Wazzu. Now was that Leach's fault or just the problem of being a podunk school ? Idk. Same with recruiting at TT. And of course TT has never regained their previous glory. I think given time he will get it going pretty good here. Hard to be patient tho.
The motivation for Leach is winning. He does not need a job or the money that goes with it.
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