Lebby offense resume overrated and over hyped.

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Yep. If you want to go the coordinator route, need to find one with (at minimum) 4-5 years under the same head coach.
 

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I think his system can work at MSU. He did a crap job of hiring assistants and the cupboard is bare.

He's also going to have to mature as a coach. He needs to find his inner harda$$ and push the coaches and players to clean up the penalties.
His offense does not help out our defense at all. It’s nothing special, other than trying to snap the next play fast. Most time the already bad defense gets put right back on the field fast. So far his offense gets a lot of garbage time yards.
 

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His offense does not help out our defense at all. It’s nothing special, other than trying to snap the next play fast. Most time the already bad defense gets put right back on the field fast. So far his offense gets a lot of garbage time yards.
His offense looks a lot better in the 2nd half when we’re down 3 touchdowns.
 

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Seems like the refs hover over the ball when we try to go tempo. That took away the fast rhythm advantage because their defense was able to get set.
 

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Seems like the refs hover over the ball when we try to go tempo. That took away the fast rhythm advantage because their defense was able to get set.
When offense substitutes, ref stands over the ball for 10 seconds or so to give defense time to sub. When offense doesn’t sub, it can go fast tempo.
 

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It seems he's always been the product of having talent to coach like Moorhead before he got here. Also, Moorhead gets here and does the sideline check every play and slows all momentum. Kinda like offense substitutes every down and refs hover over center to kill momentum now. Sometimes you gotta roll with whatcha got on the field and not get cute.
 
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I said this when we hired him. He was OC at Baylor. But it was really his father n law’s offense. He was the OC at UCF. But it was really Josh Heupel’s offense. He was the OC at Ole Miss. But it was really Lane Kiffen’s offense. He was the OC at Oklahoma. Name me the last OC at Oklahoma who was bad while there?
I was making the very same posts. Every OC at Oklahoma averages 450 a game. Why didn't Heupel take him to Tennessee with him ??
 

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An Elitedoggy saying Shapen injury is serious. So we don’t have to worry about seeing any offense the rest of this year
 

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It seems he's always been the product of having talent to coach like Moorhead before he got here. Also, Moorhead gets here and does the sideline check every play and slows all momentum. Kinda like offense substitutes every down and refs hover over center to kill momentum now. Sometimes you gotta roll with whatcha got on the field and not get cute.
This is the reason I was excited about the Mullen hire. Not because of what he did at Florida, but because of what he did at Utah and Bowling Green. Success with lower tier athletes translated to here at State more so than Florida, or to the point, Oklahoma.
 
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We are probably going to have a 4 year rebuild before we decide whether he sucks or not. My guess is we are looking at a few years of sucking. Again I will say give up on this year. Play freshmen. Bench the seniors unless they are game changers. And tbh I have not seen any game changers in maroon. Let's start a youth movement.
 

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When offense substitutes, ref stands over the ball for 10 seconds or so to give defense time to sub. When offense doesn’t sub, it can go fast tempo.
Yea. Tempo means the other team gets the ball back faster and scores. Get the 17 outta here.
 
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I think his system can work at MSU. He did a crap job of hiring assistants and the cupboard is bare.

He's also going to have to mature as a coach. He needs to find his inner harda$$ and push the coaches and players to clean up the penalties.
Gonna have to push them to be hardasses. Our middle linebacker should not be getting trucked by an opponent’s QB.
 
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Other boards saying that Shapen is done for the year. We won’t score again this season.
Why I’ve been saying he doesn’t need to run the ball or take hits. We’re 17ing screwed. About to play one of the toughest schedules we’ve ever had with Parson, who our staff clearly has no confidence in & a true FR who is very raw & will probably get injured himself if he has to play a lot of minutes.
 

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I said this when we hired him. He was OC at Baylor. But it was really his father n law’s offense. He was the OC at UCF. But it was really Josh Heupel’s offense. He was the OC at Ole Miss. But it was really Lane Kiffen’s offense. He was the OC at Oklahoma. Name me the last OC at Oklahoma who was bad while there?
Have you seen OK this year?
 

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When offense substitutes, ref stands over the ball for 10 seconds or so to give defense time to sub. When offense doesn’t sub, it can go fast tempo.
That’s not how it worked in Tempe. We didn’t sub Jack Schmitt, and those tards blocked us from running the play. Shapen even had the center snap under one of the ******** one play and got flagged.