Losses like this one for Kiffin...

Faustdog

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Losses like this one for Kiffin have got to be demoralizing. This was the year, and he's got losses to three mediocre teams.

You spend ungodly amounts of money to put together the best roster you can get to come to Oxford, MS, and this is the result you get. Teams like LSU and Florida in their down years are still able to match or even exceed your talent level.

This is why we lose coaches at MSU. And if it wasn't clear to Kiffin that it's the same story at UMiss, it should be now.

Of course the flip side to this and the fortunate thing for the Johnnies is that true blue bloods will want Kiffin less and less as this continues. The Rebs will not be better next year.

My bet is that Kiff bails soon for somewhere with an easier path, like Florida State. Florida won't hire him now.

Also please note that they beat no one of consequence last year. Both blue bloods they played ran them out of the stadium. Fortunately for the Johnnies they ran up against Penn St, known only for their defense, in their bowl game, and literally half of said defense "opted out" of the game.

The fact of the matter is that OM is only a better than average team. They are far, far from elite.

And they never will be that.
 

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Good news, Rebel fans! My sources tell me that Kiffin will not be going to a blue blood school. He’s yours for a long time.

Seriously though. Why would a high profile school want to hire him? You’ve seen what he’s done with high profile resources at a mid level school. Kiffin and OM deserve each other. May they go 9-3 every year, with an Egg Bowl loss.
 
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Losses like this one for Kiffin have got to be demoralizing. This was the year, and he's got losses to three mediocre teams.

You spend ungodly amounts of money to put together the best roster you can get to come to Oxford, MS, and this is the result you get. Teams like LSU and Florida in their down years are still able to match or even exceed your talent level.

This is why we lose coaches at MSU. And if it wasn't clear to Kiffin that it's the same story at UMiss, it should be now.

Of course the flip side to this and the fortunate thing for the Johnnies is that true blue bloods will want Kiffin less and less as this continues. The Rebs will not be better next year.

My bet is that Kiff bails soon for somewhere with an easier path, like Florida State. Florida won't hire him now.

Also please note that they beat no one of consequence last year. Both blue bloods they played ran them out of the stadium. Fortunately for the Johnnies they ran up against Penn St, known only for their defense, in their bowl game, and literally half of said defense "opted out" of the game.

The fact of the matter is that OM is only a better than average team. They are far, far from elite.

And they never will be that.
Correct. That was the best roster money can buy. And it’s another reason we should not try and mimic their path.

We need a niche. Innovation.
 

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I get it, but don't conveniently leave out the domination of the best team in college football the last 3 years just two weeks ago.

They are good, but Kiffin has a hard time overcoming his own arrogance.
 

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Losses like this one for Kiffin have got to be demoralizing. This was the year, and he's got losses to three mediocre teams.

You spend ungodly amounts of money to put together the best roster you can get to come to Oxford, MS, and this is the result you get. Teams like LSU and Florida in their down years are still able to match or even exceed your talent level.

This is why we lose coaches at MSU. And if it wasn't clear to Kiffin that it's the same story at UMiss, it should be now.

Of course the flip side to this and the fortunate thing for the Johnnies is that true blue bloods will want Kiffin less and less as this continues. The Rebs will not be better next year.

My bet is that Kiff bails soon for somewhere with an easier path, like Florida State. Florida won't hire him now.

Also please note that they beat no one of consequence last year. Both blue bloods they played ran them out of the stadium. Fortunately for the Johnnies they ran up against Penn St, known only for their defense, in their bowl game, and literally half of said defense "opted out" of the game.

The fact of the matter is that OM is only a better than average team. They are far, far from elite.

And they never will be that.
This Mississippi team is a lot like our 2000 squad. Led in every game, looked absolutely dominant at times, and lost to some lesser teams. Hopefully, the bottom drops out for them next year, like 2001-2003 did for us.
 

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This Mississippi team is a lot like our 2000 squad. Led in every game, looked absolutely dominant at times, and lost to some lesser teams. Hopefully, the bottom drops out for them next year, like 2001-2003 did for us.
Hopefully Jaxon Dart gets the flu and has to come out of the Egg Bowl in the 1st quarter. That would complete the cycle.
 

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I get it, but don't conveniently leave out the domination of the best team in college football the last 3 years just two weeks ago.

They are good, but Kiffin has a hard time overcoming his own arrogance.
This years Georgia team is absolutely nowhere near the UGA teams of the last 4-5 years. This years UGA team is above average but in no way, shape or form elite.
 

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I get it, but don't conveniently leave out the domination of the best team in college football the last 3 years just two weeks ago.

They are good, but Kiffin has a hard time overcoming his own arrogance.
Georgia is far from the best team in college football.
 
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This years Georgia team is absolutely nowhere near the UGA teams of the last 4-5 years. This years UGA team is above average but in no way, shape or form elite.

They'll be in the playoffs this year and they've won two of the last 3 national championships. Finished 13-1 the year they didn't get to play for it all.

Y'all are kinda silly.
 
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If I’m Lane Kiffin, I’m not in panic mode, but I’m definitely looking for the 1st chance I get at a program that can legitimately compete at the highest level. This year tells me there’s a ceiling in Mississippi.
Here’s the problem with that logic…. They aren’t 8-3 because they just can’t hang with the big boy teams. They smoked one of the big boy teams. The reasons they are 8-3 are because of Lane Kiffin. There is no good excuse for that roster to have 3 losses to unranked teams outside of a poor coaching job. I would argue he has done a poor job with that team. He has gotten every ounce of support he could possibly get from fan support, talent, resources, all of it…. Being at Ole Miss didn’t 17 it up for him, he 17’d it up for himself this time.
 

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Well I for one would be quite happy with 9-3 every year
Not if you're projected to be better than that, overextended financially to buy a roster of mercenaries, and were favored in all three games you lost.

That would suck. It would possibly make me suicidal.
 

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The “ungodly” amounts of money compiled by OM were still not enough to keep their most important offensive player from transferring to a blueblood. Judkins is 100% the difference in them making the CFP and not making it. Their offense has bogged down this year in big spots due to lack of physicality between the tackles.

That’s the thing. They spent a lot, but not nearly enough to be truly competitive. And they are spending 2 to 3 times what we are in both coaching staff salary and NIL. And its still not enough.
 

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Not if you're projected to be better than that, overextended financially to buy a roster of mercenaries, and were favored in all three games you lost.

That would suck. It would possibly make me suicidal.
My dentist is a huge OM homer and he said "if we don't make the playoffs this year it will be a huge disaster." I'm sure he's miserable about OM football right now. But yeah, it would suck.
 

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When you circle the Georgia game, make it bigger than it is, celebrate a bit too much... It's not easy to get the team up like that again, especially on the road.

Georgia game ends up not being a statement game like you thought.

Going gangbuster on Arkansas and South Carolina on the road isn't worth anything if you look nervous and weak against a subpar LSU and Florida.

It means you're middle of the SEC. Again. Same song, different year. Same false hype. This time it's just a much bigger financial failure.
 
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When you circle the Georgia game, make it bigger than it is, celebrate a bit too much... It's not easy to get the team up like that again, especially on the road.

Georgia game ends up not being a statement game like you thought.

Going gangbuster on Arkansas and South Carolina on the road isn't worth anything if you look nervous and weak against a subpar LSU and Florida.

It means you're middle of the SEC. Again. Same some, different year. Same false hype. This time it's just a much bigger financial failure.
I thought it was pretty cringe when they stormed the field and took down the goalposts against Georgia. Now it looks even worse.
 

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And yet with all of that said, they still aren't completely out of it after last night. Good grief will this never end, WTH Bama and A&M?. Still pissed GA couldn't put an end to it but thank goodness for the Gators.
 

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I Would take 9-3 with an egg bowl loss every year
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Not if you're projected to be better than that, overextended financially to buy a roster of mercenaries, and were favored in all three games you lost.

That would suck. It would possibly make me suicidal.
9-3 under any circumstances at Mississippi State should be a damn banner hanging season! Give me that with a win over Oklahoma, Georgia and South Carolina thrown in and I'll take a loss to Vandy or Kentucky on occasion. They were a hell of a lot closer to going 10-2 or 11-1 than State was to winning 4 games this year.
Half of our fans think we should give Lebby 2 more years even if we follow this year with a 4-8 or 5-7 year "as long as he shows improvement. Damn! 3-9 would be an improvement. Why not just say if we only average losing in 2025 by 10 points again he can go 1-11 and some of y'all will say that is improvement. By NO, ZERO, NONE, NOTTA, can anyone say 2024 was an improvement over 2023. Damn if MSU isn't just 2 years removed from that dreaded 9-3 season y'all are saddling Kiffin with!
 

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LK is just the Ole Miss version of Dan Mullen. Maybe just a tick better. A different kind of weird, and maybe more likeable. But they are pretty good comps.
 
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Here’s the problem with that logic…. They aren’t 8-3 because they just can’t hang with the big boy teams. They smoked one of the big boy teams. The reasons they are 8-3 are because of Lane Kiffin. There is no good excuse for that roster to have 3 losses to unranked teams outside of a poor coaching job. I would argue he has done a poor job with that team. He has gotten every ounce of support he could possibly get from fan support, talent, resources, all of it…. Being at Ole Miss didn’t 17 it up for him, he 17’d it up for himself this time.
That's what has to sting the most for Ole Miss fans. They may never get a schedule this easy again and they would have more or less been guaranteed a playoff spot at 10-2, which I don't think is going to be the case every year.

Cupcake OOC and an instate rival that is G5 level, and that may be generous.
They got what will be a 6-5 or 7-5 Oklahoma team at home and a 6-5 or 7-5 Arkansas team on the road.
Their second biggest test was playing what will be an 8-4 or 9-3 USCe team on the road, and they passed easily.
Their one really tough test was a 10 win UGA team at home, and they passed. This is the type of game that you're usually going to have at least two of if not three in the SEC.

But then they couldn't beat what will be a 7-5 or 8-4 LSU team. Granted it was at death valley, but in the morning.
And they also couldn't beat what will be a 6-6 UF team on the road (again in a morning game) or what will be a 4 or 5 win UK team at home.

Win any one of those three games and they are in the playoffs. And they just choked it away.

I'm not sure if it would be less demoralizing if they had lost to UGA and USCe and LSU but beaten UK and UF.

On the one hand, they can honestly say they can amass the talent to win any one game. Maybe that will entice their donors to keep shelling out. On the other hand, it tells them that even when they max out their spending and possibly then some if you believe rumors, they still are likely to get tripped up. Having a roster like this paired with this schedule and only going 9-3 after beating the two best teams on your schedule...that's just got to be frustrating as **** and I can see how that could deflate some of the enthusiasm, even if 9-3 is a good year for Ole Miss or State, no matter how favorable the schedule falls.
 
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That's what has to sting the most for Ole Miss fans. They may never get a schedule this easy again and they would have more or less been guaranteed a playoff spot at 10-2, which I don't think is going to be the case every year.

Cupcake OOC and an instate rival that is G5 level, and that may be generous.
They got what will be a 6-5 or 7-5 Oklahoma team at home and a 6-5 or 7-5 Arkansas team on the road.
Their second biggest test was playing what will be an 8-4 or 9-3 USCe team on the road, and they passed easily.
Their one really tough test was a 10 win UGA team at home, and they passed. This is the type of game that you're usually going to have at least two of if not three in the SEC.

But then they couldn't beat what will be a 7-5 or 8-4 LSU team. Granted it was at death valley, but in the morning.
And they also couldn't beat what will be a 6-6 UF team on the road (again in a morning game) or what will be a 4 or 5 win UK team at home.

Win any one of those three games and they are in the playoffs. And they just choked it away.

I'm not sure if it would be less demoralizing if they had lost to UGA and USCe and LSU but beaten UK and UF.

On the one hand, they can honestly say they can amass the talent to win any one game. Maybe that will entice their donors to keep shelling out. On the other hand, it tells them that even when they max out their spending and possibly then some if you believe rumors, they still are likely to get tripped up. Having a roster like this paired with this schedule and only going 9-3 after beating the two best teams on your schedule...that's just got to be frustrating as **** and I can see how that could deflate some of the enthusiasm, even if 9-3 is a good year for Ole Miss or State, no matter how favorable the schedule falls.
All the stars were aligned for them this year. And they choked.
 
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If this Ole Miss team can't get it done with all the rented mules and easy schedule not Miss School will ever be able to get it done.
 
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