Middle aged rant....

psuro

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This just happened this afternoon and I need to rant....

We are interviewing engineering students for internships and also for Co - op programs. We have a relationship with Drexel University, and so we get engineering students for co-op programs. We have one of our junior staff go through the process, but with a senior staff providing guidance.

Kid has an interview scheduled for 130 PM. 1:45 rolls around and he is not here. So, the junior staff member calls him to see if he is coming, late, car broke down, whatever. Kid responds "I just woke up. Do we really have to do this - can't you guys just give me the job?"

Of course, the answer is "no". The staff member hangs up the phone, and informs the senior staff - so the decision is - cancel it and look for another candidate.

Kid shows up at 2:30 - baseball hat on (backwards), jeans, sneakers, t-shirt and jacket. With a cup of Starbucks in his hand. For reasons lost on me, they decide to interview him....I am in the next office. Asking simple questions pertaining to the pursuit of his degree.....his responses were one word answers, mostly consisting of "yeah" or "nah". Nothing substantive even when he was asked to elaborate. As part of the process, they walk him around our office - showing him the cubicles, lunch room, offices of senior staff. He asks how long he has to be here before he gets an office - so he can shut the door and sleep. He assumes it's a short time frame. Our junior staff said he has been here for three years and he still only has a cubical. To which the kid said "Whoa, dude....you should sue. They are not stimulating your professional experience". He goes on to explain how our junior staff is being stymied professionally, and he should check out options to get back at the company for keeping him from being a success.

So, the interview is over and they walk the kid to the door and he says "Can I start in mid January- I want to go skiing in Colorado". To which they said "We will get back to you".

They tore up his resume once the door was shut.

I realize I am an old fuddy duddy, and I hate kids on my lawn....but sweet black Jesus, this kid was a f*cking piece of work.


Ok - rant over.
 

91Joe95

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Allow me to opine that interviewing the kid was worth it from a comedic standpoint alone. Of course, someone should probably get back to the university and ask them if this is the type of candidate they plan on sending over.
 

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This just happened this afternoon and I need to rant....

We are interviewing engineering students for internships and also for Co - op programs. We have a relationship with Drexel University, and so we get engineering students for co-op programs. We have one of our junior staff go through the process, but with a senior staff providing guidance.

Kid has an interview scheduled for 130 PM. 1:45 rolls around and he is not here. So, the junior staff member calls him to see if he is coming, late, car broke down, whatever. Kid responds "I just woke up. Do we really have to do this - can't you guys just give me the job?"

Of course, the answer is "no". The staff member hangs up the phone, and informs the senior staff - so the decision is - cancel it and look for another candidate.

Kid shows up at 2:30 - baseball hat on (backwards), jeans, sneakers, t-shirt and jacket. With a cup of Starbucks in his hand. For reasons lost on me, they decide to interview him....I am in the next office. Asking simple questions pertaining to the pursuit of his degree.....his responses were one word answers, mostly consisting of "yeah" or "nah". Nothing substantive even when he was asked to elaborate. As part of the process, they walk him around our office - showing him the cubicles, lunch room, offices of senior staff. He asks how long he has to be here before he gets an office - so he can shut the door and sleep. He assumes it's a short time frame. Our junior staff said he has been here for three years and he still only has a cubical. To which the kid said "Whoa, dude....you should sue. They are not stimulating your professional experience". He goes on to explain how our junior staff is being stymied professionally, and he should check out options to get back at the company for keeping him from being a success.

So, the interview is over and they walk the kid to the door and he says "Can I start in mid January- I want to go skiing in Colorado". To which they said "We will get back to you".

They tore up his resume once the door was shut.

I realize I am an old fuddy duddy, and I hate kids on my lawn....but sweet black Jesus, this kid was a f*cking piece of work.


Ok - rant over.

The kid should have gotten the job based on the Starbucks cup.
 

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I've had to interview quite few RNs this past year, and my experience was similar. Some cold no shows, others late with what's the big deal attitude. others poorly dressed. Starting salary and vacation requests are more often than not unreasonable. Good ones are out there, you just have to sift through the chaff.
 
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Was this supposed college student pranking the interviewer or recording the event for YouTube or some social media platform? Doesn’t sound real to me. If this is the state of what recent college graduates are in the current market? If so, this country is in big trouble!
 

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I hope that your company can provide feedback to Drexel.
Optimally, someone from @psuro 's HR Department should send a confidential letter to the individual heading up the co-op program at Drexel detailing what specifically transpired with this candidate and asking how his firm and Drexel can better collaborate in the future to identify and provide valuable professional opportunities to more deserving and motivated candidates.
 
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psuro

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Was this supposed college student pranking the interviewer or recording the event for YouTube or some social media platform? Doesn’t sound real to me. If this is the state of what recent college graduates are in the current market? If so, this country is in big trouble!
No prank. To quote @BobPSU92 - This is what we are up against.
 

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I can’t come close to topping that but a while back I was interviewing a kid - not really a kid, he was several years out of grad school. Anyway, about halfway through the interview I could tell he clearly had his phone in his lap and was texting with someone. Sad thing is, his dad was friends with my boss at the time so we hired him anyway. He is still here probably because he is such a lousy interview that he hasn’t been able to move on. Great story ro. Made me laugh.
 

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That’s the generation now! I’m in social work and I swear you have to light a fire under their *** to even think!
My wife and I were in a store and the hours were not posted. We asked the kid working what time they were open the next day and the kid answered, “I don’t work tomorrow”.
 

psuro

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That’s the generation now! I’m in social work and I swear you have to light a fire under their *** to even think!
My wife and I were in a store and the hours were not posted. We asked the kid working what time they were open the next day and the kid answered, “I don’t work tomorrow”.
Similar story...

Years ago, I bought my first iPOD. Paid for the unit, and the girl handed me my bag and I joked "don't you guys usually say 'thank you" to customers?". Her deadpan response - "It says that on the receipt, sir".

Coulda smacked her, but sweet black Jesus, the girl was correct - it was right there on the bottom.
 

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Similar story...

Years ago, I bought my first iPOD. Paid for the unit, and the girl handed me my bag and I joked "don't you guys usually say 'thank you" to customers?". Her deadpan response - "It says that on the receipt, sir".

Coulda smacked her, but sweet black Jesus, the girl was correct - it was right there on the bottom.

Attention to detail.
 

91Joe95

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Agreeing to interview him after he overslept and expressed no remorse over it was a mistake. You already had all the information you needed to make a decision on this candidate.

To be honest I'm surprised they even called to follow up. That should be up to the candidate.
 

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This just happened this afternoon and I need to rant....

We are interviewing engineering students for internships and also for Co - op programs. We have a relationship with Drexel University, and so we get engineering students for co-op programs. We have one of our junior staff go through the process, but with a senior staff providing guidance.

Kid has an interview scheduled for 130 PM. 1:45 rolls around and he is not here. So, the junior staff member calls him to see if he is coming, late, car broke down, whatever. Kid responds "I just woke up. Do we really have to do this - can't you guys just give me the job?"

Of course, the answer is "no". The staff member hangs up the phone, and informs the senior staff - so the decision is - cancel it and look for another candidate.

Kid shows up at 2:30 - baseball hat on (backwards), jeans, sneakers, t-shirt and jacket. With a cup of Starbucks in his hand. For reasons lost on me, they decide to interview him....I am in the next office. Asking simple questions pertaining to the pursuit of his degree.....his responses were one word answers, mostly consisting of "yeah" or "nah". Nothing substantive even when he was asked to elaborate. As part of the process, they walk him around our office - showing him the cubicles, lunch room, offices of senior staff. He asks how long he has to be here before he gets an office - so he can shut the door and sleep. He assumes it's a short time frame. Our junior staff said he has been here for three years and he still only has a cubical. To which the kid said "Whoa, dude....you should sue. They are not stimulating your professional experience". He goes on to explain how our junior staff is being stymied professionally, and he should check out options to get back at the company for keeping him from being a success.

So, the interview is over and they walk the kid to the door and he says "Can I start in mid January- I want to go skiing in Colorado". To which they said "We will get back to you".

They tore up his resume once the door was shut.

I realize I am an old fuddy duddy, and I hate kids on my lawn....but sweet black Jesus, this kid was a f*cking piece of work.


Ok - rant
When it comes to hiring these days, this is quite normal......
anchor man GIF
 

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That’s the generation now! I’m in social work and I swear you have to light a fire under their *** to even think!
My wife and I were in a store and the hours were not posted. We asked the kid working what time they were open the next day and the kid answered, “I don’t work tomorrow”.
I was in social work for ten years, it was a mess. I got stuck with all of the hardest and court involved cases because I actually did my job and could be counted on to be there. Finally after having my first child I realized it wasn’t worth it anymore, emotionally or financially. Stayed home for eight years while the kids were young and now I’m in education. Now we are stretched so thin because no one is applying for crucial support and paraprofessional jobs. You get more money substitute teaching on a daily basis than in a full time para position but there are major shortages there as well. My neighbor graduated a year ago and always asks me for job suggestions that have good hours. She has a bachelors in psych and no immediate plans for grad school. I suggested applying to the school district in a paraprofessional role or sub teaching. she refuses because she doesn’t want to get vaccinated. I explained that if she doesn’t want to get vaccinated she just has to get a test once a week which our district pays for. Still a firm No and refuses to work retail or other jobs she feels are beneath her because she has a degree. Must be nice to have the luxury to sit home all day at the age of 22. Ugh
 

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This just happened this afternoon and I need to rant....

We are interviewing engineering students for internships and also for Co - op programs. We have a relationship with Drexel University, and so we get engineering students for co-op programs. We have one of our junior staff go through the process, but with a senior staff providing guidance.

Kid has an interview scheduled for 130 PM. 1:45 rolls around and he is not here. So, the junior staff member calls him to see if he is coming, late, car broke down, whatever. Kid responds "I just woke up. Do we really have to do this - can't you guys just give me the job?"

Of course, the answer is "no". The staff member hangs up the phone, and informs the senior staff - so the decision is - cancel it and look for another candidate.

Kid shows up at 2:30 - baseball hat on (backwards), jeans, sneakers, t-shirt and jacket. With a cup of Starbucks in his hand. For reasons lost on me, they decide to interview him....I am in the next office. Asking simple questions pertaining to the pursuit of his degree.....his responses were one word answers, mostly consisting of "yeah" or "nah". Nothing substantive even when he was asked to elaborate. As part of the process, they walk him around our office - showing him the cubicles, lunch room, offices of senior staff. He asks how long he has to be here before he gets an office - so he can shut the door and sleep. He assumes it's a short time frame. Our junior staff said he has been here for three years and he still only has a cubical. To which the kid said "Whoa, dude....you should sue. They are not stimulating your professional experience". He goes on to explain how our junior staff is being stymied professionally, and he should check out options to get back at the company for keeping him from being a success.

So, the interview is over and they walk the kid to the door and he says "Can I start in mid January- I want to go skiing in Colorado". To which they said "We will get back to you".

They tore up his resume once the door was shut.

I realize I am an old fuddy duddy, and I hate kids on my lawn....but sweet black Jesus, this kid was a f*cking piece of work.


Ok - rant over.
Candid Camera episode??
 
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I was meeting with a group from our development program the year before covid hit. The group was 10 people. I had them meet in my conference room for a 830 meeting to get the started on the 6 weeks they were going to spend in my area. The 10th person was a guy that didn't show up. This group had been in the program about 6 months at this point. Finally, the 10th guy walks in around 8:50 with a bag of food. He sits down, never apologizes for being late. Sets up his lap top and says to me, "you don't mind if I eat this do you?" I look at him and said, "yes I do mind and I also mind when people can't show up on time." The shocked look he gave me was priceless. There were a few snickers from the others.

The remainder of the meeting went OK, he didn't say a thing. I let them go to their areas about 10:00, I'm sure his food was good and cold by that point. I called the head of the program and wanted to know how this guy had made it this far. He lasted exactly 3 1/2 more days in my area when we finally sent him back to the program director who in turn gave him the boot.

What a dumbass blowing a great job and opportunity with one of the largest and respected financial institutions in the US. Since then, I have run into some of the others that were in the room that day who graduated from the program and have already risen to very nice roles in the company. I'm guessing he's sitting around waiting for his next gov't stimulus check.
 

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This just happened this afternoon and I need to rant....

We are interviewing engineering students for internships and also for Co - op programs. We have a relationship with Drexel University, and so we get engineering students for co-op programs. We have one of our junior staff go through the process, but with a senior staff providing guidance.

Kid has an interview scheduled for 130 PM. 1:45 rolls around and he is not here. So, the junior staff member calls him to see if he is coming, late, car broke down, whatever. Kid responds "I just woke up. Do we really have to do this - can't you guys just give me the job?"

Of course, the answer is "no". The staff member hangs up the phone, and informs the senior staff - so the decision is - cancel it and look for another candidate.

Kid shows up at 2:30 - baseball hat on (backwards), jeans, sneakers, t-shirt and jacket. With a cup of Starbucks in his hand. For reasons lost on me, they decide to interview him....I am in the next office. Asking simple questions pertaining to the pursuit of his degree.....his responses were one word answers, mostly consisting of "yeah" or "nah". Nothing substantive even when he was asked to elaborate. As part of the process, they walk him around our office - showing him the cubicles, lunch room, offices of senior staff. He asks how long he has to be here before he gets an office - so he can shut the door and sleep. He assumes it's a short time frame. Our junior staff said he has been here for three years and he still only has a cubical. To which the kid said "Whoa, dude....you should sue. They are not stimulating your professional experience". He goes on to explain how our junior staff is being stymied professionally, and he should check out options to get back at the company for keeping him from being a success.

So, the interview is over and they walk the kid to the door and he says "Can I start in mid January- I want to go skiing in Colorado". To which they said "We will get back to you".

They tore up his resume once the door was shut.

I realize I am an old fuddy duddy, and I hate kids on my lawn....but sweet black Jesus, this kid was a f*cking piece of work.


Ok - rant over.


He sounds like management material.
 

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This just happened this afternoon and I need to rant....

We are interviewing engineering students for internships and also for Co - op programs. We have a relationship with Drexel University, and so we get engineering students for co-op programs. We have one of our junior staff go through the process, but with a senior staff providing guidance.

Kid has an interview scheduled for 130 PM. 1:45 rolls around and he is not here. So, the junior staff member calls him to see if he is coming, late, car broke down, whatever. Kid responds "I just woke up. Do we really have to do this - can't you guys just give me the job?"

Of course, the answer is "no". The staff member hangs up the phone, and informs the senior staff - so the decision is - cancel it and look for another candidate.

Kid shows up at 2:30 - baseball hat on (backwards), jeans, sneakers, t-shirt and jacket. With a cup of Starbucks in his hand. For reasons lost on me, they decide to interview him....I am in the next office. Asking simple questions pertaining to the pursuit of his degree.....his responses were one word answers, mostly consisting of "yeah" or "nah". Nothing substantive even when he was asked to elaborate. As part of the process, they walk him around our office - showing him the cubicles, lunch room, offices of senior staff. He asks how long he has to be here before he gets an office - so he can shut the door and sleep. He assumes it's a short time frame. Our junior staff said he has been here for three years and he still only has a cubical. To which the kid said "Whoa, dude....you should sue. They are not stimulating your professional experience". He goes on to explain how our junior staff is being stymied professionally, and he should check out options to get back at the company for keeping him from being a success.

So, the interview is over and they walk the kid to the door and he says "Can I start in mid January- I want to go skiing in Colorado". To which they said "We will get back to you".

They tore up his resume once the door was shut.

I realize I am an old fuddy duddy, and I hate kids on my lawn....but sweet black Jesus, this kid was a f*cking piece of work.


Ok - rant over.

This seems to reflect poorly on engineering students (perish the thought!), students of a certain age, Drexel students, or some combination of the three. This sounds almost too staged to be true; still, I don’t know why you bothered with the interview given he was an hour late.
 

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Back in mid 80’s, I was corporate recruiting manager for Westinghouse Electric. On many campuses, there was lots of animosity towards Defense Contractors and companies involved in nuclear businesses. Since we did both, we asked every student we interviewed on campus if they were anti either or both.

I am visiting MIT, interviewing Nuclear Engineers. One guy on my schedule had grades were just barely above 2.0 (we generally cut at 3.0, but it was MIT😂). So I asked him, “do you have any problem working in the defense or nuclear industries”? His reply, “ I want to be the guy with my finger on the launch button”! That spooked me a bit! He got a quick “Sorry” letter.
 

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This just happened this afternoon and I need to rant....

We are interviewing engineering students for internships and also for Co - op programs. We have a relationship with Drexel University, and so we get engineering students for co-op programs. We have one of our junior staff go through the process, but with a senior staff providing guidance.

Kid has an interview scheduled for 130 PM. 1:45 rolls around and he is not here. So, the junior staff member calls him to see if he is coming, late, car broke down, whatever. Kid responds "I just woke up. Do we really have to do this - can't you guys just give me the job?"

Of course, the answer is "no". The staff member hangs up the phone, and informs the senior staff - so the decision is - cancel it and look for another candidate.

Kid shows up at 2:30 - baseball hat on (backwards), jeans, sneakers, t-shirt and jacket. With a cup of Starbucks in his hand. For reasons lost on me, they decide to interview him....I am in the next office. Asking simple questions pertaining to the pursuit of his degree.....his responses were one word answers, mostly consisting of "yeah" or "nah". Nothing substantive even when he was asked to elaborate. As part of the process, they walk him around our office - showing him the cubicles, lunch room, offices of senior staff. He asks how long he has to be here before he gets an office - so he can shut the door and sleep. He assumes it's a short time frame. Our junior staff said he has been here for three years and he still only has a cubical. To which the kid said "Whoa, dude....you should sue. They are not stimulating your professional experience". He goes on to explain how our junior staff is being stymied professionally, and he should check out options to get back at the company for keeping him from being a success.

So, the interview is over and they walk the kid to the door and he says "Can I start in mid January- I want to go skiing in Colorado". To which they said "We will get back to you".

They tore up his resume once the door was shut.

I realize I am an old fuddy duddy, and I hate kids on my lawn....but sweet black Jesus, this kid was a f*cking piece of work.


Ok - rant over.
Whew. Glad I wasn’t part of the interview team. First, he would not have gotten the interview. Second, when he arrived in said attire, he would have been told, “Sorry, you’re not dressed appropriately to interview for a professional job (intern position included); you should know better, please leave.” Third, when he began the one-word answers with no elaboration when prompted, I would have told him “If that’s how you communicate with adults, you’re not fit for any position here, where communication skills are of utmost importance.” I could go on but what for? What an entitled twerp. I’m sorry you had to be exposed to such a joke of a human being, but they seem to be everywhere these days. Good for you for keeping your cool; I don’t know if I could have done the same.
 

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I was in social work for ten years, it was a mess. I got stuck with all of the hardest and court involved cases because I actually did my job and could be counted on to be there. Finally after having my first child I realized it wasn’t worth it anymore, emotionally or financially. Stayed home for eight years while the kids were young and now I’m in education. Now we are stretched so thin because no one is applying for crucial support and paraprofessional jobs. You get more money substitute teaching on a daily basis than in a full time para position but there are major shortages there as well. My neighbor graduated a year ago and always asks me for job suggestions that have good hours. She has a bachelors in psych and no immediate plans for grad school. I suggested applying to the school district in a paraprofessional role or sub teaching. she refuses because she doesn’t want to get vaccinated. I explained that if she doesn’t want to get vaccinated she just has to get a test once a week which our district pays for. Still a firm No and refuses to work retail or other jobs she feels are beneath her because she has a degree. Must be nice to have the luxury to sit home all day at the age of 22. Ugh
I don’t want to start anything here, but it is just way way way beyond me why anyone takes that position. Selfish (self-centered), ignorant, disrespectful of others. There are plenty of entry positions in the warehouse industry but I’m sure she’d scoff at them, too. Just so many entitled brats out there today.
 

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I’m not usually one for the “oh my God, these kids today” discussions, but I did have a doozy a few weeks ago. Called Primo Hoagies to place an order…

Me: “I’d like to order a two foot Italian sub”.

Girl on phone: “I’m sorry, but our only sizes are 6 inches, 9 inches, and 24 inches”.

Me: after a pause for 5 seconds, “umm…I guess I’ll do the 24 inch sub”

Her: “Sure, would you like oil, vinegar…”

I mean, wow.
 

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Was this supposed college student pranking the interviewer or recording the event for YouTube or some social media platform? Doesn’t sound real to me. If this is the state of what recent college graduates are in the current market? If so, this country is in big trouble!
I hope you’ve noticed we are already in trouble.
 
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I’m not usually one for the “oh my God, these kids today” discussions, but I did have a doozy a few weeks ago. Called Primo Hoagies to place an order…

Me: “I’d like to order a two foot Italian sub”.

Girl on phone: “I’m sorry, but our only sizes are 6 inches, 9 inches, and 24 inches”.

Me: after a pause for 5 seconds, “umm…I guess I’ll do the 24 inch sub”

Her: “Sure, would you like oil, vinegar…”

I mean, wow.
That’s ok. Back in the day I worked for the survey company 3 man crew. I was third in line
The crew leader said we had to stake something out in yards
But first needed to figure out how many feet in a yard
#2 said ‘don’t it matter if it’s the front of back yard’?
I said why don’t we just use 3.
#1 asked if I was sure. I assured him I was.
we went w 3
 

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I did a lot of interviewing in my day on college campus’s for operations management and sales management training program at a fortune 500 company. The one response I hated when asking about qualifications was “I’m a people person….blah, blah, blah……aarrrrrgghh!!!
 
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