Mississippi College sez No Mas to football…

OG Goat Holder

Well-known member
Sep 30, 2022
8,277
7,841
113
Why would they cut football vs the other sports? If it’s not making money I doubt other things are.

Is it more of a competitive thing than a money thing? Thought I saw someone mention they were good at soccer…
 

615dawg

Well-known member
Jun 4, 2007
5,528
1,140
113
Why would they cut football vs the other sports? If it’s not making money I doubt other things are.

Is it more of a competitive thing than a money thing? Thought I saw someone mention they were good at soccer…
Football has about 65 scholarships at the D2 level and more expensive travel costs. Your smaller sports can get 2 games in on a travel weekend so it cuts down on travel costs.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Ers236

patdog

Well-known member
May 28, 2007
49,059
13,190
113
Why would they cut football vs the other sports? If it’s not making money I doubt other things are.

Is it more of a competitive thing than a money thing? Thought I saw someone mention they were good at soccer…
Football probably loses more money than the rest of the sports combined. But I wonder if they’ll lose students over this. Maybe with their base of students they draw from not as much as a secular school would.
 

615dawg

Well-known member
Jun 4, 2007
5,528
1,140
113
Football probably loses more money than the rest of the sports combined. But I wonder if they’ll lose students over this. Maybe with their base of students they draw from not as much as a secular school would.
Its not going to be 0, but the number of unaffected students that leave over this is going to be low. You'll have some football players leave, some cheerleaders, dancers and band members will leave, but the average non-athlete isn't going to lose sleep over this.

Saw another place where they averaged about 500 at home games.
 
  • Like
Reactions: patdog

OG Goat Holder

Well-known member
Sep 30, 2022
8,277
7,841
113
  • Like
Reactions: patdog

615dawg

Well-known member
Jun 4, 2007
5,528
1,140
113
Mississippi College is D2. Same revenue model as D1 just less required scholarships.

D3 is a different revenue model. Think of it as travel ball for college sports. 50 man baseball rosters and 130 on football teams. All paying tuition. No athletic aid.
 

dgsmith15

Active member
Nov 10, 2008
1,041
286
83
we'll be back to a regular 7-5 program.
Sarcastic Season 9 GIF by The Office
 

OG Goat Holder

Well-known member
Sep 30, 2022
8,277
7,841
113
Mississippi College is D2. Same revenue model as D1 just less required scholarships.

D3 is a different revenue model. Think of it as travel ball for college sports. 50 man baseball rosters and 130 on football teams. All paying tuition. No athletic aid.
Sorry, meant D2. What your link was referencing.

So what about this rev share shlt? They have to do that in D2? Guess you can’t share 0 but do they have to come up with something at the expense of other stuff? If so, no wonder they cut football, and I’d expect many others to do the same.
 

vhdawg

Well-known member
Sep 29, 2004
3,957
1,019
113
Mississippi College is D2. Same revenue model as D1 just less required scholarships.

D3 is a different revenue model. Think of it as travel ball for college sports. 50 man baseball rosters and 130 on football teams. All paying tuition. No athletic aid.
My dad taught at MC (his alma mater) for several years after retiring from Hinds, and one day I went to have lunch with him there, and we wound up eating with the college president (this was probably 15 years ago at least). They were still D3 at the time and we talked about the complexities of changing divisions. They had done a study about NCAA classification options for them and the one thing the president said that stuck with me was that for the costs associated with scholarships at the D2 level, they'd actually financially be better off going to FCS because it's not that many more scholarships than D2, and you can get big buy checks from FBS teams to help with the costs.

Edited to add: This was a former president, not the current one.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: patdog

615dawg

Well-known member
Jun 4, 2007
5,528
1,140
113
My dad taught at MC (his alma mater) for several years after retiring from Hinds, and one day I went to have lunch with him there, and we wound up eating with the college president (this was probably 15 years ago at least). They were still D3 at the time and we talked about the complexities of changing divisions. They had done a study about NCAA classification options for them and the one thing the president said that stuck with me was that for the costs associated with scholarships at the D2 level, they'd actually financially be better off going to FCS because it's not that many more scholarships than D2, and you can get big buy checks from FBS teams to help with the costs.
Yep. They should have played FCS. Play Louisiana Tech and South Alabama every year and you make your budget. That’s why your West Georgia, North Alabama and West Floridas are moving up. Only way to survive.

Presbyterian College in South Carolina is FCS and they don’t have 1000 students.

the Dallas Baptist model is interesting. Go D1 on one sport and D3 in everything else.
 

OG Goat Holder

Well-known member
Sep 30, 2022
8,277
7,841
113
Yep. They should have played FCS. Play Louisiana Tech and South Alabama every year and you make your budget. That’s why your West Georgia, North Alabama and West Floridas are moving up. Only way to survive.

Presbyterian College in South Carolina is FCS and they don’t have 1000 students.

the Dallas Baptist model is interesting. Go D1 on one sport and D3 in everything else.
So why even have D2?
 

PooPopsBaldHead

Well-known member
Dec 15, 2017
8,047
5,376
113
If they were looking to grow enrollment they should have changed their name to Mississippi Plumbing College to capitalize on all those kids y'all are sending off into the world of skilled labor instead of higher education.
 
  • Like
Reactions: LimaoCabeca

Motodawg

Active member
Apr 19, 2018
341
256
63
If they were looking to grow enrollment they should have changed their name to Mississippi Plumbing College to capitalize on all those kids y'all are sending off into the world of skilled labor instead of higher education.
Hopefully Draingo, AirSouth and Environment Masters send their entire rosters
 
Get unlimited access today.

Pick the right plan for you.

Already a member? Login