Name the most underrated/forgotten Penn State football starter you can think of.

Karl_Havok

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@bbrown already mentioned Josh Hull who was one of the first to come to mind. He was a walk-on LBer who started and was a favorite of Joe. Man he was a whipping boy for PSU fans.

Then you have Mike Hull who nobody ever mentions when they talk about LBers. 5-star recruit who was undersized but very good.

Matt Seneca. He was the starter when Zach Mills was a freshman. He was not very good and was benched and left the team after getting death threats from fans.

Chris Bell anyone? He threatened to stab a teammate in the cafeteria and was kicked off the team. He was a 5-star receiver.

LaVon Chisley. Kicked off the team and killed a guy. He is doing a life sentence currently.

AJ Price. WR who was built like a twig. Never gained weight but had hype out of high school.
 

leinbacker

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Greg Garrity, you know, this guy.

 

psuro

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@bbrown already mentioned Josh Hull who was one of the first to come to mind. He was a walk-on LBer who started and was a favorite of Joe. Man he was a whipping boy for PSU fans.

Then you have Mike Hull who nobody ever mentions when they talk about LBers. 5-star recruit who was undersized but very good.

Matt Seneca. He was the starter when Zach Mills was a freshman. He was not very good and was benched and left the team after getting death threats from fans.

Chris Bell anyone? He threatened to stab a teammate in the cafeteria and was kicked off the team. He was a 5-star receiver.

LaVon Chisley. Kicked off the team and killed a guy. He is doing a life sentence currently.

AJ Price. WR who was built like a twig. Never gained weight but had hype out of high school.

Here is one for you

Sam Crenshaw, WR/DB
From Youngstown, who never did much, although I am pretty sure he started a few games
He also played on the b ball team for a few games
 
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PSUQbKeeper

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someone took my Kim Herring answer so I will list a few others

Brian Chizmar
Brian Gelzheiser
Mike Cerimele (the yin to Kurpeikis's yang)
Matt Kranchick
Sean McHugh
Matt Hahn
Brett Brackett

edit to add the most uderrated Collins brother at Penn State Gerry Collins
 
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OptionBob

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I've been hesitant to inject my oldtimer's view, but I have lousy self control. For you young guys, here are some players who receive little attention in modern tiimes:

1. LB Charlie Zapiec, who started his career as an OG
2. LB Gary Gray, another key player in stuffing the "vaunted" Longhorn Wishbone in the '72 Cotton Bowl
3. LB John Skorupan, who flashed the skills of a Shane Conlan
4. Safety Neal Smith, who all by himself snared 12 interceptions in the 1969 season (counting the Orange Bowl)
5. LB Ed O'Neil, who even returned a punt and an interception for touchdowns ala Dennis Onkotz
 

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I've been hesitant to inject my oldtimer's view, but I have lousy self control. For you young guys, here are some players who receive little attention in modern tiimes:

1. LB Charlie Zapiec, who started his career as an OG
2. LB Gary Gray, another key player in stuffing the "vaunted" Longhorn Wishbone in the '72 Cotton Bowl
3. LB John Skorupan, who flashed the skills of a Shane Conlan
4. Safety Neal Smith, who all by himself snared 12 interceptions in the 1969 season (counting the Orange Bowl)
5. LB Ed O'Neil, who even returned a punt and an interception for touchdowns ala Dennis Onkotz
Maybe this name was brought up but I always thought Ray Isom was a huge part of those 85 and 86 teams.
 

PSUJam

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Keith Olsommer. TE from 93-96 and NEPA kid from the same general area where I grew up. In 1995 he caught 23 balls for an average of 17.9 yards with 2 TD.
 
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Charlie1978

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Trey Bauer. He was an absolute beast on that 86 defense, but Conlan got all the pub, and people remember Gifto, because, well "Intercepted by Giftopoulos"
Trey set the angry tone we needed to beat the bums from Miami on January 2, 1987. Our epically glorious Lions require dudes like this from time to time and he, like D Butler, are on the Mt Rushmore of this category of epic Lions
 

Charlie1978

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Evan Royster

Leading rusher in PSU history and gets little to no recognition.
He was on my list of under appreciated Lions, nice choice
Potential Seider replacement if Seider ever takes a promotion somewhere?
it is time to start talking about Seider. Could one of you legends start a thread among our best minds to debate his value?
 

Charlie1978

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Chuck Burkhart. Penn State has had back to back unbeaten seasons only once, 1968 and 1969, and Chuck was the starting quarterback both seasons. He never lost a game he started in high school or college. His numbers were laughable by today's standards. In 1969 he threw one (1) TD pass. That is not a misprint. One TD! But....as was said about a college QB named Paterno, "He can't run and he can't pass. All he can do is think and win". And so it was with Chuck.
I just watched the Orange Bowls (KU and Mizzoo). The dude was a leader
 

LionJim

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Mark Robinson will always be on this list for me. I view every Safety through the lense of his badassery. PSU has had a rich history of angry and smart safeties. THAT list rivals the LB list in so many aspects
Dang, that’s poetry.
 
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With the success of Micah in the NFL and now Abdul, they bring up the great LBs that wore number 11 and often neglect to mention Navarro Bowman. Dude was a stud.
Brandon Bell was awfully good too
 
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