In US plants in response to tariffs. Imagine that.
Nissan reduces planned production cuts
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Wrong, it’s because Tesla’s aren’t cool now. Only reason.
LOL Tesla may not be as cool as some cars , but Nissan ain't one of them. I doubt many folks narrow their last two choices down to either a Tesla or Nissan.
For the record I realize you're being sarcastic
That was sarcasm, but every Nissan I’ve been in has impressed me. A friend has the Titan. Saw a new armada recently and it’s a good looking vehicle
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Not trying to be a dick, but am I reading the double negative correctly on this? Are they reducing the cuts in production? So not reducing by as much as they initially announced or was that supposed to be two different sentences?
They are NOT reducing their production. They reversed their months-old plan to cut U.S. production.
I had zero complaints on the Armada I had the last couple of years but it was/is made in Japan alongside the QX80s. The Titan I had previously had some irritating quality issues which is common out of the Canton plant. I looked at a new Pro-4x last year when they were being discounted locally but every single one on the lot had the roof seam sealer stopping about 3 inches short of where it was supposed to stop. Huge issue across two years of production causing leaks in the cab. That is just crappy QC from Canton.
We’ve owned two Titans and an Armada. First Titan was great. Second Titan was okay. Armada was solid, but lacked amenities compared to other brands. Glad to see that Nissan is not going to reduce production as much as they planned, but I doubt we ever own another Nissan.
This article is referring to the Smyrna plant but I expect tariffs to play a large part in keeping Canton open. Only time will tell. The sentra was built in Canton before being moved to Mexico.
We had two different Armadas. The 2012 was the older design and was really comfortable and then we traded for the newer style in 18 and I ended up hating it. They took out all the front legroom and it was not fun for me on a long trip. Also both of them drank gas. Tons of power but man they would go through a tank of gas quickly.
If they would go back to building Datsun pick ups, I would buy one….the one I had in early 80’s is probably still running
My dad also had one and took it over to the neighbor's house. Neighbor wanted him to open the hood to see how many mice on a spinning wheel it took to run it. And yes....it's still running today!
I really enjoyed my Titan until Memphis decided I shouldn't any longer.
You can’t just retool a vehicle assembly line and supply chain on a dime. Takes years of planning.
Automakers in general are largely going to be delaying / pausing any major investment and production planning decisions where wheels aren’t already set in motion. Now there are tariffs. But by the time anyone can respond to them on the automotive side by actually following Trump’s intent and bringing back production to the US, we are guaranteed to have a new president with a different policy or approach in some way. It’d be the worst decision imaginable to shutter a plant in Mexico, bring the production to the US, and then when its finally up and running….see whoever is elected in 2028 decide to remove all tariffs.
If Trump wanted these moves to have the effect he claims to want, he’d have put them into place in his first term when he actually had a chance to oversee the alleged reinvestment period with the same policy.
You are wrong. It's not that complicated. It's happening whether you wanna admit it or not. Read a newspaper article or two
You are probably going to see a lot of production increase at many US factories. Many of the companies building overseas didn't shut down plants. They cut back productions and move those overseas. Now they are going to come back.
Maybe. But capital owners really don't know how seriously to take Trump. He might just pull back in a month for any or no reason at all. Why make big decisions that arent easily reversible until time proves you are operating in a new normal?
This. Trump and admin is either ignorant of how this world works or he's just purposely shocking markets to buy a bunch of assets on the cheap for profit. Probably the latter. He knows industrial capital investment doesn't move quickly no matter what he sells to the general public.
They will probably gamble he is serious and not backing down. Hell, he dropped the largest non-nuclear bomb in history after warning he would do it the last time he was in office. MOAB.
If you can read the NY Times and WSJ have numerous articles stating several companies are already adjusting production back inside the country. It wasn't a problem to move the sentra from Canton to Mexico and it can easily be brought back. Very simple process. Feel free to argue against the facts that are already happening if you want. You argued this in the last Nissan and post and now it's factually happening. It's okay to be wrong. Ya know men can't have babies either. Just because CNN/MSNBC says it doesn't make it true.
Someone on here told me the other day that this will all work itself out in 50 years or so.
Hope you're right, but it seems unlikely. Manufacturers all over the country are laying off workers due to the tariffs, and I don't see why Nissan here would be any different.
I don't understand how anyone who has really sat down and thought about this can believe that. The example of Nissan seems like it would be the exception and not the rule. Nissan is a multi-national corporation that happens to have a modern plant in the United States that is not running at full capacity. Changing production from outside the US to Canton won't happen over night like you seem to think, but it could happen fairly soon. Great!
99.9% of the companies that count on foreign sources for goods, raw materials, or parts to operate their business don't have the luxury of idle capacity in the US. That means most will have to do some combination of passing prices on to customers or cutting production until they find a comparable source that is not subject to tariffs. Depending on the product, that could take a long time.
Those are bull **** news organizations.
If they have to build new factories in the United State serves them right for turning their backs on American worker for cheap labor in Mexico in the first place. **** them. I bet right now you will not see price increase on autos and if you do it will be minimum. They will absorb the tariffs and not pass it on to the consumers. All that cheap labor they can afford it. They need and want our markets. When you have a 1.6 trillion deficit with most of the world you have the upper hand in a trade war. Trump will be proven right again.
When has any company ever done that? Why would any company ever do that?
They are not going to have any choice. Either not sell cars or sell cars with less profit. This has never been done before and when Jim Farley says it is going to blow a hole in the industry he means a hole in their bottom dollar. They need to be successful in the United States. You don't see Fords on every corner outside North America.
They are either dumb are they are thieves......liberals are a simple minded herd.
Actually, “Liberals” have historically been the ones to always push things like tariffs as a means of government induced market manipulation to push their agendas. Up until around 8 years ago, they were the only ones that thought they were a good idea.
Glad we saw the light ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I would say it goes back to Obama's second term, a little more than 8 years, and the TPP.
We typically have multiple causes of a stock market decline of $6 trillion in two days but in this case one dude caused it. Perhaps it will go back up soon but that's not guaranteed. There really seems to be this notion that the U.S. is getting screwed over when we've had the best economy of any country for the past few decades, the dollar is still the world's reserve currency and tons of people want to come to America for a better life including top scientists and engineers. I have no idea what the future holds. Perhaps Trump's ideas will work out. Or maybe not. It's certainly possible that tariffs could accelerate the de-industrialization of America, decline of the Pax Americana and a backlash to how the anti-woke and anti-science agenda is being implemented that leads to a resurgence of wokeness and a left-wing populist getting elected president. It's swing voters and independents in a few states who determine presidential elections.
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How about we let Nissan or whoever decide where to locate their production so that I can decide if the product they produce at the price they sell it …works for me.
all you folks excited about production returning to domestic shores are literally cheering government intervention in the market. We will end up with less choice, worse products, and higher costs.
all you folks excited about production returning to domestic shores are literally cheering government intervention in the market. We will end up with less choice, worse products, and higher costs.
Tarrifs can be great when there's some purpose and planning behind it. Sledge hammer global trade wars are brain dead. I'm going with this is made for tv drama that he will pull back on sooner than later, claim some kind of victory, and move on to the next **** show. And if that happens and we get some favorable movement that allow us to better compete with our exports, then good on him.
Skeptical it will happen though. I think much is the planet is getting tired of dealing with him and would rather reorg with the US playing a lesser role. We are a loose cannon to them now.