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Already been alluded to on here, but for some reason today it’s trending as a story.

 

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As I had a staunch UPC fan tell me one time during the Ford era when the subject of their sketchy academics came up, "I don't go up there to watch 'em gra-je-ate; I go up there to watch 'em play football".
 
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As I had a staunch UPC fan tell me one time during the Ford era when the subject of their sketchy academics came up, "I don't go up there to watch 'em gra-je-ate; I go up there to watch 'em play football".
That must have been your good friend Frank "Gore for four" Howard!
 

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Dude was just hanging out and playing some football.
But as a scholarship athlete, aren’t there regulations for how many hours you have to take each semester and passing classes and all that? Some students go to college and screw around and flunk classes and don’t take enough credits and take a long time, but how can a scholarship athlete be in college that long without actually earning a degree?
 

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But as a scholarship athlete, aren’t there regulations for how many hours you have to take each semester and passing classes and all that? Some students go to college and screw around and flunk classes and don’t take enough credits and take a long time, but how can a scholarship athlete be in college that long without actually earning a degree?

Coaching!

And the Athletic Education Support Staff!
 

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But as a scholarship athlete, aren’t there regulations for how many hours you have to take each semester and passing classes and all that? Some students go to college and screw around and flunk classes and don’t take enough credits and take a long time, but how can a scholarship athlete be in college that long without actually earning a degree?
I thought there was an NCAA reg requiring all student athletes to be making progress each academic period toward a degree sequence in a degree program. Don’t see how he could stretch it out so long and stay eligible.
 
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I thought there was an NCAA reg requiring all student athletes to be making progress each academic period toward a degree sequence in a degree program. Don’t see how he could stretch it out so long and stay eligible.
That's my main question.

There are requirements to meet as a scholarship athlete. Granted, one of those 6 years was at CC, so I don't know how that factors into things, but he presumably had to take classes there.

It took me 7 years to finish undergrad, but I was working 60-80 hours/week at times and some semesters only took one or two classes.
 

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On the other hand, you have:


"The former four-star recruit graduated as a renaissance scholar with a law degree, a minor in finance, a GPA greater than 3.7 and departmental honors. All in five semesters at one of the more prestigious private schools in the country. Impressive!"

"Meanwhile, all of the way across the country, Georgia also held its graduation ceremonies over the weekend. Stetson Bennett, who began college in 2017 — when Moss was just beginning his freshman year of high school — was not among the Bulldogs that graduated."

That guy was a 9th grader when Bennett started college, and he graduated with honors from college this year, while Bennett is without a degree. Mind blowing.
 

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But as a scholarship athlete, aren’t there regulations for how many hours you have to take each semester and passing classes and all that? Some students go to college and screw around and flunk classes and don’t take enough credits and take a long time, but how can a scholarship athlete be in college that long without actually earning a degree?
My grandson is a scholarship athlete, majoring in sports training. During the spring semester, he took 18 hours (against my advice) and math was included, along with English and a science. He ain't skating. I'm not saying he's typical; I'm saying it's what you make it.
 
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There are conflicting reports on whether or not he has a degree. I don't know how he could be a grad student without a bachelor's degree.

That said, so what? He was obviously eligible to play the whole time he was there and Georgia won back to back national championships with him at qb and he was drafted and is now rolling in money. All the chatter about it sounds like butthurt to me.

I don't think any fan base wants to go through its list of football heroes and find out how many never got a degree from their school.
 
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Why does it matter now? Not because he's gone, but that these are athlete first and students seconds.
 

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There are conflicting reports on whether or not he has a degree. I don't know how he could be a grad student without a bachelor's degree.

That said, so what? He was obviously eligible to play the whole time he was there and Georgia won back to back national championships with him at qb and he was drafted and is now rolling in money. All the chatter about it sounds like butthurt to me.

I don't think any fan base wants to go through its list of football heroes and find out how many never got a degree from their school.
Why does it matter now? Not because he's gone, but that these are athlete first and students seconds.

I think it's because you're not talking about a 21 year old who's leaving college after 3 years but a 25 year old who was in college for 6 full years. It does just seem a bit absurd.
 

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Not really in this day.
It's probably a pretty small population of 25 year olds who leave college after 6 years with no degree.

But, again, his status as a scholarship athlete is a key factor. Presumably, there are requirements to meet.
 

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I think it's because you're not talking about a 21 year old who's leaving college after 3 years but a 25 year old who was in college for 6 full years. It does just seem a bit absurd.
Because of covid and redshirts, 25 yr old college athletes aren't the anomalies they once were. Hendon Hooker is 25 too, he and Bennett both have late birthdays so they were 19 when they graduated high school. Both transferred in college so they both probably lost credits. There are a lot of regular students who are 23 or 24 when they graduated with a bachelor's degree. Bennett was listed as a grad student so I don't know how he couldn't have a degree of some kind.

Again, I don't know why it matters to anyone. He obviously was eligible to play when he played. When I was in college I knew several 22 yr old sophomores.
 

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Because of covid and redshirts, 25 yr old college athletes aren't the anomalies they once were. Hendon Hooker is 25 too, he and Bennett both have late birthdays so they were 19 when they graduated high school. Both transferred in college so they both probably lost credits. There are a lot of regular students who are 23 or 24 when they graduated with a bachelor's degree. Bennett was listed as a grad student so I don't know how he couldn't have a degree of some kind.

Again, I don't know why it matters to anyone. He obviously was eligible to play when he played. When I was in college I knew several 22 yr old sophomores.

I don't know the numbers, but I'd wager Bennett is still an anomaly.

Hooker graduated from VaTech and was a grad transfer to UT. So not comparable to Bennett.
 
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I don't know the numbers, but I'd wager Bennett is still an anomaly.

Hooker graduated from VaTech and was a grad transfer to UT. So not comparable to Bennett.
Like I said, I read Bennett was a grad student last year. Maybe that was incorrect. If so, he and Hooker were comparable. I agree 25 yr old college athletes are an anomaly but the covid year added to four years of eligibility plus a redshirt year equals 6 years so a kid with a late birthday being 25 wasn't as crazy in 2022 as it would be next year.
 

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Like I said, I read Bennett was a grad student last year. Maybe that was incorrect. If so, he and Hooker were comparable. I agree 25 yr old college athletes are an anomaly but the covid year added to four years of eligibility plus a redshirt year equals 6 years so a kid with a late birthday being 25 wasn't as crazy in 2022 as it would be next year.

I don't know about his grad student status. Nobody else in the entire media is reporting it as such.