We "established" the run on the second drive with the short field. 4 straight runs for a TD.
Then, on the next three drives, we didn't have a run over 3 yards, and had 1 fumble. We don't have the talent to be a "run first" team. We need balance.
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We "established" the run on the second drive with the short field. 4 straight runs for a TD.
Then, on the next three drives, we didn't have a run over 3 yards, and had 1 fumble. We don't have the talent to be a "run first" team. We need balance.
Yes, balance after establishing the run. Not the other way around. We ran it down their throat for a score in the 2nd half and then held them. All the momentum was on our side and we needed to kill time. First play after the score? Pass, sack, fumble. Sorry but that was bone headed playcalling.
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Agreed.
We seem to be arguing against a straw man here.
Everyone loves balance, everyone thinks we should executive both main facets of the offense.
The only real difference, and it's hardly a shocking difference, is whether to run to set up the pass, or pass to set up the run.
My personal opinion on that I don't trust rattler to open up any good defense. Hence run to open up the pass.
No, it wasn't. Just because you have some success running the ball doesn't mean you have to come out and run the ball on first down going forward. Gotta be balanced and unpredictable. We ran the ball like that on that short field drive, and got stuffed on every running play after that for 3 drives.
The only issue with that play was the OL wiffed on a block. Nothing wrong with the call.
Of course, if we ran three straight running plays and ended up kicking the FG people would be complaining about that.
It's possible. But it wouldn't be me.
I suppose the best way to sum it up for me is, do I trust Lloyd or rattler more?
The biggest issue wasn't the playcalling. It was the OL. Got manhandled on the first 2 plays.
Yes, nobody thought we would pass three times from the 5 yards line. That was crazy unpredictable. How did that work out? Crazy unpredictable throwing after the touchdown in the 2nd half. How did that work out?
I agree Satterfield is very unpredictable. How's his unpredictability working out for us? Throwing to our Defensive lineman last year when we were running it down their throat. Great call because it was unpredictable. How did that work out?
We did the same thing in the first half with the run. After scoring on the run, we came out 2 drives later and ran the ball on first down. Juju got the ball stripped and it ended up being a turnover. How is that any different or smarter? You act like just because you can run of one series, then the run is always a better option going forward. That's not true. Defenses adjust, and bad things can happen with the run, just like the pass, if players don't execute.
Neither were bad calls. Players just have to execute.
And I'd rather be unpredictable. The DL pass was a little over the top, but that was one play and nowhere close to the norm. Predictable will get you beat every time.
That series of plays told me we were gonna be in for a long night offensively.
I like this strategy. If you got nothing, might as well not let the defense key on your limited offense. This season it doesn't appear that USC has any real offense - why not let defense and special teams win games while trying something new?
HUH??? So Joyner would be our starting QB, but you want to see a mix of Rattler and Doty
Unpredictability is not working for Satterfield. Time to.make some changes.
Do we have any quick slant pass plays - don't think I've seen any. That would be unpredictable. With receivers like Bell and Vann it should be something that would be a good option.
You are right! All these people yelling run, run, run forgot the plays that were stuffed
I could be wrong, bit I think what he's saying that if you give Joyner 3-4 series a half, he may not start the first series, but he's pretty much the primary qb at that point.
I'm curious as to why Joyner went from hero of the bowl to not even listed on the depth chart at qb.
He has one reception for -1 yard on the season.
It is curious with how dynamic he looked in the bowl game and how poor our offense has looked at times that they haven't tried him a series here and there.