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Classof09

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Should have honored CJF’s original contract; no reason in the world to extend him 10 years in a year where he finished 7-6 and a new AD coming onboard. It shows PSU is happy to pay champagne prices for Boone’s Farm. Franklin has no sense of urgency because why should he?
As was stated earlier, PSU wants our money, TV contract money, and us to shut up and be happy with 8-4 or 9-3. So far, they’ve shown satisfaction with being in Tier 2, more like Tier 3, of college football.

I for one just don’t believe the school will do what it takes to be OSU, Bama or Georgia.
 

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I look at it from standpoint that our recruits either are overrated or our coaching is that bad. This is the weakest group of linebackers that we have in a long time. There is no speed at all and they can't tackle. I think we have to move on from Franklin. There was zero effort today and that is on the staff. 416 yards rushing. Singleton had 19 yards. The number one player in the country and is ruined by this scrap offensive scheme.
 
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Nits1989

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I look at it from standpoint that our recruits either are overrated or our coaching is that bad. This is the weakest group of linebackers that we have in a long time. There is no speed at all and they can't tackle. I think we have to move on from Franklin. There was zero effort today and that is on the staff. 416 yards rushing. Singleton had 19 yards. The number one player in the country and is ruined by this scrap offensive scheme.
Are you talking about Jacobs and Carter? Both are fast, good players.
 
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BiochemPSU

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You guys overrate our recruiting. How many in the top 100 year after year? They give 4 stars to everyone in the top 300 now. You really think two four stars who are ranked 220 and 240 are the same as a four star ranked 80? We rarely pull from the top football factory high schools and when we do it is the third or fourth best guy.

CJF better go full MSU and start bringing in mercenaries via the portal, because the recruiting isn’t working. Not saying development is perfect, but the transfers seems to do well when they get here.
 

Nits1989

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No argument here. The truth is with these decent recruiting classes, PSU ought to be a top 15 team. They are not.
I just looked up the 2022 blue chip rankings. We are tied for 12th best with Michigan. The rosters of both teams have 55% blue chip players. Over 50% means you have the talent to win a natty. The talent is there. The PSU players are very good.
 
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I look at it from standpoint that our recruits either are overrated or our coaching is that bad. This is the weakest group of linebackers that we have in a long time. There is no speed at all and they can't tackle. I think we have to move on from Franklin. There was zero effort today and that is on the staff. 416 yards rushing. Singleton had 19 yards. The number one player in the country and is ruined by this scrap offensive scheme.
Singleton is overrated.
 

Nits1989

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Singleton is overrated.
There was a 3rd down play in the 1st half where he bounced it wide and couldn’t get around the corner. Then they showed a camera angle from behind and I saw what he saw. There was nowhere to go. A complete wall with no holes at all. I‘d like to see that angle more often. They showed it for a Michigan rb and the hole was huge.
 

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I firmly believe that recruiting rankings are grossly flawed and misleading.

How the hell does Josh Heupel take UCF to the promise land and now turns around Tennessee to the point they’re beating Alabama 28-10.
 

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This loss is a **** sandwich and there is no aolio in the word the other going to make it taste decent.

****.
 
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Nits1989

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With respect to CJF’s remark about needing better players to make plays run better, I believe PSU has those types of players.
 
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How about buying him an elite staff then? How much $$ would it take to bring Munchak home to coach up this OL? If we’re stuck with Franklin, make life uncomfortable for him…take a little bit of control away from him.
That’s a legit question and may be the best option. Michigan did that with Harbaugh and look at them.
 
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Player2BNamedL8r

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That’s a legit question and may be the best option. Michigan did that with Harbaugh and look at them.
Seriously, I’m tired of getting beaten to shreds in the trenches. We have stud RBs and nobody to open holes for them. If the new AD - the one who DIDN’T sign Franklin to this ridiculous extension - isn’t happy, he should lean on Franklin and see who blinks first. There’s no reason a program with our resources should have to put up with such ineptitude and mediocrity.
 

Lion4ever

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Seriously, I’m tired of getting beaten to shreds in the trenches. We have stud RBs and nobody to open holes for them. If the new AD - the one who DIDN’T sign Franklin to this ridiculous extension - isn’t happy, he should lean on Franklin and see who blinks first. There’s no reason a program with our resources should have to put up with such ineptitude and mediocrity.
It’s time….
 

Midnighter

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You guys overrate our recruiting. How many in the top 100 year after year? They give 4 stars to everyone in the top 300 now. You really think two four stars who are ranked 220 and 240 are the same as a four star ranked 80? We rarely pull from the top football factory high schools and when we do it is the third or fourth best guy.

CJF better go full MSU and start bringing in mercenaries via the portal, because the recruiting isn’t working. Not saying development is perfect, but the transfers seems to do well when they get here.

Funny thing is I can’t recall a time where so many Lions were in the NFL and doing so well, and they’re mostly Franklin players.
 

Player2BNamedL8r

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Funny thing is I can’t recall a time where so many Lions were in the NFL and doing so well, and they’re mostly Franklin players.
Credit where it’s due - the man is relentless on the recruiting front, and has the cabinets full of talent (maybe not so much in the trenches). He gets the horses on campus…just doesn’t know how to train them.
 

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Bret Bielema is at Illinois for a second year and he turned it around. He did it with road graders , those kids are out there, but not the 4 and 5 star guys most PSU fans would want.

Minnesota same thing big all around.

Michigan was ready to dump Jimmy,but he took a pay cut or no raise i forget which. Jim turned it around by surrounding himself (IMHO) NFL coaches via brother John's advice.
 

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Okay, so we got beat by one of the best teams in the country. We gave up a ton of rushing yards to a team with the best offensive line in the country and one of the best running backs in the country. We got beat by a better team. We are not as good as Michigan. But using this as an excuse for all of the whining and complaining is pathetic.

Did anyone really think we were a top 5 team before the season started?
No. We weren’t ranked. If we finished 10-2 I’m happy. Minn has just lost 2 straight. They aren’t beating us nest week.
 

1995PSUGrad

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Glad you can rationalize and glad you are cool with being a crappy team. Enjoy
I am not rationalizing anything. We got beat badly but a much better team than we are. So Michigan is a lot better than we are. I am just not going to complain and whine like a 12 year old every time we lose a game or make a bad play or Coach Franklin makes a call that I don't agree with. Grow up.
 

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Supposedly Penn States
Okay, so we got beat by one of the best teams in the country. We gave up a ton of rushing yards to a team with the best offensive line in the country and one of the best running backs in the country. We got beat by a better team. We are not as good as Michigan. But using this as an excuse for all of the whining and complaining is pathetic.

Did anyone really think we were a top 5 team before the season started?
I expected Franklin to field a team capable of more than 2 first downs in the first half and maybe force them to punt at least once in the game. If you want to have no realistic expectations for the team, you go do you.
 

1995PSUGrad

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Singleton is overrated.
Saquon Barkley struggled against some good defenses, probably cost him the Heisman Trophy his last year. I guess he is overrated, too.

Maybe we should wait until this college freshman plays more than 6 games before we make a final determination.
 

1995PSUGrad

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Supposedly Penn States

I expected Franklin to field a team capable of more than 2 first downs in the first half and maybe force them to punt at least once in the game. If you want to have no realistic expectations for the team, you go do you.
We have won six games. Michigan is a lot better than us. We got outplayed by a better team. It happens.
 

Nitwit

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We are the third best team out of 14 Big10 teams. That’s why we should fire the coach, dump the QB, and start over. Makes sense to me.
 

ManxomeLion

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We are the third best team out of 14 Big10 teams. That’s why we should fire the coach, dump the QB, and start over. Makes sense to me.
The histrionics from both camps aside, Franklin is getting paid 5.9 million a year, had 2 weeks to prepare, and this was the result?
REALITY is that Maryland, Iowa and Indiana all kept their game with Michigan closer without the elite salaries and star recruits. What does one take away from that?
 
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