Also seems like Isaac and Jacobs were only playing the first half; just not a good way to have to play these games.
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Also seems like Isaac and Jacobs were only playing the first half; just not a good way to have to play these games.
The man has no sense of accountability. That being the case, don't expect any championships for this program while he is coach.
Ok. Then I hope he comes out tomorrow and just says “We suck”. Then you could all relax.
Saban will say, Kirby Smart will, Joe said it all the time........do you see a trend here my friend?
So, saying we aren’t very good makes them good coaches? Got it. Have a good night. It’s been an exhausting day.
Whoop de f’n do…of course I remember them. I was there.
Do you know who was the best bowl coach ever? Most career wins? Are you seriously comparing Franklin to Joe ?
How many road games against top-10 competition has Franklin won? Any? How many home games for that matter. Joe might beat a half dozen ranked teams per year
Joe went into top-ranked O$U and whipped them. Notre Dame, Pitt, Nebraska, Alabama…Texas….do I need to go on?
Franklin? Nada.
Quit the drinking and the drugs.
I'm sure this viewpoint will be unpopular with some here, and of course it affects all teams (not just PSU), but...
I really dislike the bowl game opt-outs. I know the argument about preventing injury when this close to the NFL combine/draft, but one could make that argument for the last "x" games of the regular season too. Opt-outs put one's own interests above the team, which along with NIL, transfer portal, etc. takes something away from college football and the loyalty aspect, and the pride of winning a postseason game for your school.
I'm "old school" and to me this is a continued deterioration of the college game.
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I really dislike the bowl game opt-outs. I know the argument about preventing injury when this close to the NFL combine/draft, but one could make that argument for the last "x" games of the regular season too. Opt-outs put one's own interests above the team, which along with NIL, transfer portal, etc. takes something away from college football and the loyalty aspect, and the pride of winning a postseason game for your school.
I'm "old school" and to me this is a continued deterioration of the college game.
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You may want to go back and look at some statistics. Joe was 13-33 against top 5 opponents in 46 seasons. Eight of those wins were in the 80’s. Was he a great coach? Absolutely. Was he infallible like you want to believe? No. Were there a lot of great seasons in his 46 years? Yes, but there were a fair share of duds too. This is the problem with some of you. You are delusional about how every season was fantastic and nobody will ever live up to your delusions of grandeur.
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PSU rushing -Allen 10-51, Singleton 8-50.
On receiving - Singleton 4-86.
#10 had a solid statistical day for naught .
On receiving - Singleton 4-86.
#10 had a solid statistical day for naught .
Clifford did beat Michigan...twice. And he's a rookie sitting on the bench in the NFL. Not sure that's the burn you intend it to be. And Levis had his chances in 2019 (start against Rutgers) and in 2020 (start against Neb). He stunk. Maybe 3 years later he's developed into a better QB than Clifford. But at the time, it wasn't hard to see why the coaches chose Clifford over him.
I was initially responding to the guy that said the Peach Bowl game was it for him. That he was done donating and going to bowl games. My stance was that he sure has endured a lot of ups and downs over the years to stop supporting after this particular loss.
Looks like he portaled in a GF, Ole Miss cheerleader who graduated in 2019. She now works for SMU as a fundraiser . I imagine she can put the fun into fundraising.
Nah, someone on here during the season said Singleton didn’t belong at this level.
The portal and coachmovement needs to be limited to AFTER the end of the season.....and why was CJF holding those cards? He wasn't calling plays was he?
But developing/coaching, educating, nutrition/room and board, equipment is valueless...reason we needed NIL.
After seeing KLS get only one target and Cephas not playing....would any "good" portal receivers come to PSU?
Why was CJF holding charts/cards all game? Was he calling the plays?
Unless NIL was a factor, I would think the only way we could attract a top portal WR would be if the new OC was able to convince them things would be different with him calling the plays. Otherwise, I don't see how we would stand a chance.
NIL may be the only factor. If these kids really wanted to play, they wouldn't be opting out.
None of us I know where in those practices and saw the day to day etc.. but many a coach have made the wrong choice, it happens. I remember watching the Nebraska game and they kept calling QB runs, I thought is this Tim Tebow, good lord let the kid throw the ball. I think OC , scheme etc.. fall into why things turned out the way they did. SC had his ups and downs but finished a solid College QB, is Levis"s ceiling higher, absolutely imho, but it is what it is. I hope they both have long NFL careers, playing or holding a clipboard.
and “they” were right. I think most PSU fans agree Joe stayed 10 years too long. But if you take Joe in his prime, and JF now there’s no comparison. Honestly, how anyone could not see to give Pribula a couple series, especially in 2nd half is just not watching the same game. JF seems lost on game day. The end
Joe did stay too long, but he earned the right imo.
Once again many are questioning is it coaching, development or mis judging talent in recruiting but we have a room full of 4 star recruits that can't get open. We brought in a top rated portal WR who did nothing this year. It's ridiculous when your TE and RB are catching more passes than WR. I am willing to give him 1 more year but there needs to be a drastic change at WR next year. If the new OC wants to bring in his own WR coach I am more than good with that. WR room is severely lacking talent or development or both. That falls on the WR coach and Franklin
Yep. The passing game is broken. I'm sure there is plenty of blame to go around but we have 13 games of evidence that the WR position at Penn State is a severe liability. And that has to get fixed. Can't see how the current WR coach keeps his job.
I have heard over and again how CJF was a WR coach.....and WR coach in Green Bay....reason Donald Driver let his son commit to CJF and PSU. Well that didn't turn out real well and i wonder if that publicity coupled with the Shorter fiasco has created a stain on prospects choosing PSU. Why hasn't CJF stepped/aided in to rectify our deficiency.
Who said he was infallible?
But he was the best in big games and had many wins on road….i’d have to look into the stats but to finish top 5, you can’t lose many games. So if we beat them l, they would drop.
I just quoted you three games that they won (on road or outside Beaver Stadium) that I personally attended against the Number 1 team.
Now quick (or slow, or medium paced), provide me Franklin’s list. I will accept one example.
The 1980s? Sure, he was awesome.
But had three undefeated, untied teams before that with some awesome bowl wins.
I was also at two other Pitt games on road where Pitt was a top-10 team that PSU won in dramatic fashion .
Franklin? Not a single one!
Our current wide receivers should get such separation! And you are arguing this point? Better start following soccer.
You sure like to move the goal posts and redirect. It’s not about Joe vs Franklin. It’s about some of our delusional fanbase not acknowledging that PSU wasn’t a National championship contender on a regular basis like some like to claim. The program has been largely mediocre since the late 90’s. It didn’t recently falloff. It’s been 20-25 years of mediocre. The years you referenced were in the 60’s and 70’s. They are long gone. I never said anything about the WRs. Not sure where you are getting your talking points. I have no problem with moving on with Franklin, but we both know that is largely unlikely.
6. Ole Miss (The Grove Collective)
The Grove Collective was not performing at peak ability until head football coach Lane Kiffin began pondering a move to Auburn. In response, the fanbase kicked it into gear and the collective now has over 5,000 members as of December 2022.They announced in November that they had surpassed their 2023 goal of $10 million. This is one of the stronger collectives in the conference.
Man, for someone who called someone 'condescending' earlier in the thread, you're certainly toeing the line with that characteristic by calling people delusional.
Who is moving goal posts. From 1950-2000 Penn State had the best record against the toughest schedule. What was the common theme?
After that, even with the dark years, Penn State achieved better wins, more championships, etc under a declining Paterno than Franklin.
I don’t expect Paterno level of achievement. But we have and can done better…much better.
Franklin has had ample chances. He is basically a good dude.
But it is time for someone new to get a chance to see if Penn State’s identity and approx level of performance can be restored.
It's what we are up against. Can't figure Ole' Miss $$ vs. PSU $$.
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