Official PSU - Ole Miss Peach Bowl game thread

rudedude

Well-known member
Oct 6, 2021
6,692
13,330
113
1. Allar ain’t it and folks saying we have no WRs
may be true but Allar’s passes were way off,
Horrible Mechanics. Bring on Beau next year.
2. Why was Olu dressed for the game but opted out? Get out of uniform and into street clothes if you aren’t playing. That was a ridiculous look.
3. Coaching malfesance allowing Carter to play on one leg. His ineffectiveness allowed Ole Miss an easy drive for a TD. Ridiculous.
 

Phlebitis

Well-known member
Oct 25, 2021
1,054
1,347
113
Well, I'm disappointed, but my disappointment does not focus so much on the Lions' performance today as it does on what the CFB postseason has become.

The current CFB system, with most of the elite players opting out in order to protect their draft status, has turned things upside down. The postseason games used to be the biggest games, and the ones players were least likely to miss. Now, the best players opt out (which is perhaps understandable, given what happened a few years ago to that elite player from Notre Dame), and the team playing in a bowl game may be FAR less competitive than it was during the regular season. I seem to recall the announcers for today's game saying that the Lions had five (5) opt outs, while Ole Miss had one (1), and that it included Fashanu and both starting CB's. I'm not into offering excuses, but that clearly had an effect on the quality of the Lions' pass blocking and pass coverage.

I'm not sure what, if anything, can be done to fix this mess, but if I was a college and I was paying big NIL money to a star player, I might ask for a contractual commitment to play in the team's postseason game(s).
I’ve been wondering what the effects of basically unregulated NIL combined with an unlimited transfer portal would have on college football. My fears have been that it was going to change it for the worse and quick. The first three NY6 games haven’t done much to make me feel better about the direction it’s heading. My whole life I’ve felt college football is the best sport in the world. I hope it finds a way to stay that way.
 
  • Like
Reactions: LafayetteBear

bleedbluepsu

Member
Oct 29, 2021
24
34
13
Dante Cephas not seeing a snap and then immediately heading to tunnel is amazing to me (as is James comment about competition after game when asked) Idk how we missed so bad or are such a mess at WR but no one should respect us at WR next year until further notice.
 

A2nit

Active member
Oct 12, 2021
222
254
63
Yep. He’s proven over n over that he’s not a game day coach e.g. things don’t go to plan, need a new plan. So fire your competent OC, lose your highly competent DC and you expose yourself.
I’ve no coaching to draw on but it looked the entire game that the D played a soft zone. A DB was always 17-18 yds deep at snap, no matter the down or yardage and receivers moved into open zones all game with no coverage following them. Give ole Miss coaches credit for lapping up the lack of adjustments.
Lane’s game plan killed the CB replacements. PSU D based on 1v1 outside with the pressure.
Once Dart got tapped/medicated after the 1st Q, game over.
Offensively, will see what Coach K can do, nothing consistent at all today…
 

BiochemPSU

Well-known member
Oct 30, 2021
935
1,215
93
1. Allar ain’t it and folks saying we have no WRs
may be true but Allar’s passes were way off,
Horrible Mechanics. Bring on Beau next year.
2. Why was Olu dressed for the game but opted out? Get out of uniform and into street clothes if you aren’t playing. That was a ridiculous look.
3. Coaching malfesance allowing Carter to play on one leg. His ineffectiveness allowed Ole Miss an easy drive for a TD. Ridiculous.
The WRs are awful and the scheme is terrible for a pocket QB. There are TWO RBs who can run and block back there. We don’t use them. At all. Like, at all. We don’t even like to run them behind the guy who is supposedly the best lineman in the country. Malpractice.

If you want to let Beau go McSorley and run around and throw it up, fine. But the best version of trace had Saquon ready to make 11 guys look like fools. Beau won’t have that.

But none of that is Drew. I have no idea what is stopping the Allars from pulling this kid and getting him the hell out of here. I would if he was my kid; go play for a smaller school, get your mojo back and get ready for the draft.
 

psu31trap

Well-known member
Oct 29, 2021
1,227
1,122
113
What is the penalty if a senior refuses to suit up and play?
For the penalty to have real teeth you would need for the NFL to be part of the punishment. Only then would the entire team suit up. But I’m sure there would be numerous lawsuits.
 

ILLINOISLION

Well-known member
Oct 12, 2021
1,574
2,996
113
The easiest job in CFB is the Defensive Coordinator preparing to play PSU.

Sadly proven true, year after year, time after time, game after game.
 
  • Like
Reactions: psuno1

LB99

Well-known member
Oct 27, 2021
6,447
8,517
113
I was limiting my horizons to CJF era. Same ol same ol
It’s been same ol, same ol since the 90’s. That why I don’t understand the outrage now vs then? What’s the difference?
 

LB99

Well-known member
Oct 27, 2021
6,447
8,517
113
PSU hasn't been considered "elite" for decades. Just the way it is.
Exactly. Try telling that some of the short memory guys on here who seem to think every time Joe’s teams took the field they dominated. Also, there times during the Joe era that they looked unprepared. 2011 Alabama game comes to mind. PSU used at least 2, maybe all 3 timeouts on the first drive of the game. Now, that’s unprepared and precisely why anyone even remotely suggesting Jay should get a consideration any time a PSU OC job becomes open should do their research. I’m tired of people acting like the Franklin years are terrible compared to the not so distant past. It’s pretty much on par with those years. Stop kidding yourselves.
 

Midnighter

Well-known member
Oct 7, 2021
9,843
15,683
113
It’s been same ol, same ol since the 90’s. That why I don’t understand the outrage now vs then? What’s the difference?

Paying way more money for a coach? Top 15 recruiting classes? Just spitballing…
 
  • Like
Reactions: FTLPSU

NoSoup4U

Well-known member
Oct 14, 2021
362
551
93
How was 2000-2004? 2006, 2007, 2009? 2010? 2011? Was PSU competing at an elite level those years?
The statement was 2000-2005? See you are 🦜?

I merely pointed out the factual inconsistencies of the statement. The irony of the post was the poster thought he was educating someone on being a pennstate fan, when if you were a pennstate fan back then you would know 2000-2004 was considered the dark years and 2005 made that a distant memory. The old man may not have lost it. So since you asked 2008 2009 11 win. Seasons top 10 final ranking. Didn’t I just hear this is the first year ole miss has won 11 games. So yeah not a decade of greatness but most certainly in the “compete every four years” plan that The old guy had set forth. Or did all you penn state fans forget that too?
 

BobPSU92

Well-known member
Oct 12, 2021
17,612
26,618
113
Seems like Franklin may be rethinking the way he handles opt outs…if I’m playing, it’s distracting to have guys there who are moving on voluntarily to the NFL. No ill will and I’m happy for them, but stay home.



Losing coaches and players doesn’t just affect the product on the field (talent and chemistry). It is a potential distraction and could have a negative affect on the team’s psyche.
 

LB99

Well-known member
Oct 27, 2021
6,447
8,517
113
The statement was 2000-2005? See you are 🦜?

I merely pointed out the factual inconsistencies of the statement. The irony of the post was the poster thought he was educating someone on being a pennstate fan, when if you were a pennstate fan back then you would know 2000-2004 was considered the dark years and 2005 made that a distant memory. The old man may not have lost it. So since you asked 2008 2009 11 win. Seasons top 10 final ranking. Didn’t I just hear this is the first year ole miss has won 11 games. So yeah not a decade of greatness but most certainly in the “compete every four years” plan that The old guy had set forth. Or did all you penn state fans forget that too?
They didn’t compete for a NC every 4 years. That lasted through the 80’s and then died. Go back and look at 2009. Was it really a good season? Only 1 win over a ranked team and the usual losses to Iowa and Ohio State. They got embarrassed at home vs Iowa in a night game on national TV. The usual inept, conservative offense. That season was aided by cupcake wins over Temple, Eastern Illinois, Syracuse, and Akron. 2005 and 2008 were the only really good seasons from 2000-2011 and 2005 had the annual loss to Michigan. 2008 had Paterno losing to Ferentz again and then getting exposed against USC. Look, I loved Joe as much as anyone, but some in the PSU fanbase need to look at things with some real perspective.
 

Corner Room Breakfast

Well-known member
Oct 27, 2021
1,227
1,632
113
Losing coaches and players doesn’t just affect the product on the field (talent and chemistry). It is a potential distraction and could have a negative affect on the team’s psyche.
You opt out, you should lose all facility privileges, weight room etc. Lesson learned in life is you are either all in or all out. This is the second bowl game our opt outs screwed us ( Arkansas).

Penn State recruited , developed and educated them in return the school owes them nothing. I hope most of the opt outs go to Carolina .
 

MacNit

Well-known member
Oct 12, 2021
1,306
1,258
113
I’ve been wondering what the effects of basically unregulated NIL combined with an unlimited transfer portal would have on college football. My fears have been that it was going to change it for the worse and quick. The first three NY6 games haven’t done much to make me feel better about the direction it’s heading. My whole life I’ve felt college football is the best sport in the world. I hope it finds a way to stay that way.
Too late…It is already gone.
 

PSUFTG2

Well-known member
Jul 1, 2023
700
1,569
93
Dante Cephas not seeing a snap and then immediately heading to tunnel is amazing to me (as is James comment about competition after game when asked) Idk how we missed so bad or are such a mess at WR but no one should respect us at WR next year until further notice.
It starts with "I love you", and it ends with "CU Later"
(PSU has about 12 spots to clear from the roster to get down to 85)
 

MacNit

Well-known member
Oct 12, 2021
1,306
1,258
113
It’s been same ol, same ol since the 90’s. That why I don’t understand the outrage now vs then? What’s the difference?

Exactly. Try telling that some of the short memory guys on here who seem to think every time Joe’s teams took the field they dominated. Also, there times during the Joe era that they looked unprepared. 2011 Alabama game comes to mind. PSU used at least 2, maybe all 3 timeouts on the first drive of the game. Now, that’s unprepared and precisely why anyone even remotely suggesting Jay should get a consideration any time a PSU OC job becomes open should do their research. I’m tired of people acting like the Franklin years are terrible compared to the not so distant past. It’s pretty much on par with those years. Stop kidding yourselves.
For the love of God, Joe’s teams win more big games in 1 year than Franklin has in his entire tenure…and on the road? No comparison! I personally attended 3 games where PSU defeated a heavily favored #1 ranked team outside of Beaver Stadium.

Franklin is lucky to beat Purdue on road.
 

NoSoup4U

Well-known member
Oct 14, 2021
362
551
93
They didn’t compete for a NC every 4 years. That lasted through the 80’s and then died. Go back and look at 2009. Was it really a good season? Only 1 win over a ranked team and the usual losses to Iowa and Ohio State. They got embarrassed at home vs Iowa in a night game on national TV. The usual inept, conservative offense. That season was aided by cupcake wins over Temple, Eastern Illinois, Syracuse, and Akron. 2005 and 2008 were the only really good seasons from 2000-2011 and 2005 had the annual loss to Michigan. 2008 had Paterno losing to Ferentz again and then getting exposed against USC. Look, I loved Joe as much as anyone, but some in the PSU fanbase need to look at things with some real perspective.
No they did not but his plan was to have a team that could compete for 1 every four years with the other years being in the 3-4 loss range. As those 11 wins teams fell short as everyone would expect it’s tough to win a NC at least in those days. You still need to get some breaks. 1999 they beat Minny they may be playing for one. His expectations were realistic and didn’t marry it to the fans in those years. Franklin has his own problems and in an environment with more landmines to avoid but some are his own friendly fire so to speak
 
Get unlimited access today.

Pick the right plan for you.

Already a member? Login