I don’t disagree. Just wish people would acknowledge that PSU football hasn’t been great for a very long time. Some really good years along the way, but not consistent for a very long time.
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What decade are you referring to? It’s 2023. Joe’s record vs top 15 teams in his last 15 years was not very good.
Did as well or better than Franklin his last decade with half assed recruiting and much less salary. The thinking (hope) was a young, energetic coach would recruit better and modernize the program, which would lead to more wins. Franklin has done both of those things but isn’t performing better. The fact that we’ve been essentially flat since 2000 doesn’t mean one shouldn’t hope to be better - I don’t understand the ‘well, we haven’t been elite since the 90’s so let’s just give up on trying to be’ posture either.
That should be the PSU recruiting pitch. All sorts of 4 & 5 stars will be lining up. Since the coaching staff is really good at developing talent a NC will be won in the next year or two.
or at least stand on the sideline with a clipboard, and wave your arms like you are signaling plays
That’s not the stance for me whatsoever. It’s a response to those who act as though PSU football fell off since Franklin became coach. That’s BS and many just don’t want to admit it. PSU football fell off starting in the late 90’s/2000’s but the same “fans” that bash Franklin were fine with Joe’s team’s underperforming.
has Franklin ever stepped up and said “we’re not a good football team”? He ought to.
IDK been on McAndrew for over 20 years . When Joe was not having good games/seasons there was plenty of vitriol on the board .
I’m not sure if the position of those original posters have softened over the years . I would wager there has been mellowing , but not capitulation on Joe’s poor seasons .
I don’t know how good people thought his teams would be when his average recruiting class in the 00’s was low 30’s.
Nice player, but He sits the bench for Green Bay. Only at PSu do we thump our chest for that. Meanwhile, the guy we let walk, Levis, looks like a guy you build a franchise around. Anyway, even with 6 years at psu, Sean didn’t beat Michigan or OSU. He looked about as good in this offense as just about anyone who didn’t have Saquon running around. It’s the coach.
One of the biggest differences to me between Coach Paterno & Coach Franklin (win or lose) is team toughness and grit. I think Coach Franklin is a good coach and a great guy but he doesn’t coach grit or push for some of that nastiness out of the guys. Listen, I understand those were different times with different rules, but I don’t think I’m alone when I say the Lions are missing that edge, mental toughness and a never quit attitude.
In a sense, yes, some humility is good. He should also stop blaming what he can’t control (portal, opt outs) for his loses and simply give credit to Ole Miss players and coaches for playing well.
Even past his peak, he did better than Franklin.
saw him gut out a win against a highly ranked O$U team on road.
Why? Joe’s teams were tough. Almost all of them.
Lol. I think he would get crap from some no matter what he does or says. He’s in a no win situation with some.
It was clean to me. I’m not sure what part of the play people thought was a flag. Sucks that Carter got hurt on it, but nothing about that block deserved a flag.I'm not familiar enough with the cut block rule.Didn't look great though.
You remember Toledo? How about the 6-4 loss to Iowa. Annual losses to Ferentz and Carr? Giving up 200 yards rushing to 2 separate Sparty RBs? The embarrassing shellacking in the home opener in 2001 vs Miami? How about the 3 lackluster losses to end the 1999 season? I do. I was at several of those games.
Absolutely correct it would have been worth a couple cheap shots after the block on Abdul Carter.
Bet on me? Not after you ghosted your teammates. At least Olu and Chop were on the sidelines to support. Where were you?
Who was it that asked " did you ever think about slinging it down field and see what happens " well it happened.
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