OT: Alabama commit's statement on being committed will either make you laugh or cry...or both

BetaLiberalCock1

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Y’all want to talk about word salad. Committing doesn’t even bind you to the team. Someone where long ago some coach wanted to make a kid feel like he was bound to the school without getting to signing day so they used the word “commitment” then you put some made up values to the word. It’s more of a pledge and doesn’t mean ****. Until a LOI is signed things can change. I would never advise my kid to stay committed to school a if school b came along because they missed on their first hit. All while offering a better situation. Some of y’all are delusional. Again it’s a fluid thing not a blood oath. It’s simple not that serious.

If you have an employer offer you a contract worth 100 million over 5 years and before you sign that contract, company B offers you 10 million, you going to stick with A? Even if company B is the better situation. That’s what’s happening here .

I’m only wrong in your opinion . Obviously the powers at be, agree with me because rule changes are not happening. Again the LOI is the true commitment. Not “committing”
TLDR. You don't know what the word 'commitment' means.
 

18IsTheMan

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Of course things can change.

But there is no such thing as "60% committed."

Now it's fair to say that "'Bama is presently my favourite."

Yeah, I'm not sure what's so hard to understand about this. Commitment is 100%. It doesn't mean something won't happen later to change your mind (e.g. coach being fired), but at that moment in time, a commitment is 100%.

There is no such thing as a partial commitment, as you correctly note. Nobody's saying the kid doesn't have the right to change his mind. We are saying he's a moron for saying he's 60% committed. I HOPE he's going to college for the education.
 
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Yeah, I'm not sure what's so hard to understand about this. Commitment is 100%. It doesn't mean something won't happen later to change your mind (e.g. coach being fired), but at that moment in time, a commitment is 100%.

There is no such thing as a partial commitment, as you correctly note. Nobody's saying the kid doesn't have the right to change his mind. We are saying he's a moron for saying he's 60% committed. I HOPE he's going to college for the education.
I don’t think so because saying you’re one hundred percent gives off the persona that you will not entertain further offers. That’s not the case until the LOI is signed. Which is why I have been saying drop signing day all together and let them sign a LOI when they want after a certain age.
 

18IsTheMan

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I don’t think so because saying you’re one hundred percent gives off the persona that you will not entertain further offers. That’s not the case until the LOI is signed. Which is why I have been saying drop signing day all together and let them sign a LOI when they want after a certain age.

The word "committed" implies 100% (definition: obligation that restricts freedom of action). Now, obviously, we all know that kids who verbally commit today aren't actually committed in many cases. But, by definition of the word, you can't be open to other options if you're committed. That's what makes the 60% committed statement comical.

I do agree, though, that kids should be able sign a LOI at any time and not have to wait for a signing day. I'd say starting junior year in high school (maybe senior), they should be able to sign LOI whenever they want and can be released if their head coach or position coach is fired. I think NSD is fun (and stressful) but letting kids sign LOIs early takes immense pressure off everyone involved and simplifies things.
 
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Just holding a spot like a reservation.
 
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Nothing wrong with that, per se, but that is not a commitment.
In this situation we can agree to disagree. I can separate the word and definition of commitment and it’s values from the thing in college football we call a “commitment”. They are not the same. Some coach somewhere labeled it that. That’s not what it is.
 

atl-cock

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In this situation we can agree to disagree. I can separate the word and definition of commitment and it’s values from the thing in college football we call a “commitment”. They are not the same. Some coach somewhere labeled it that. That’s not what it is.
Actually, we do agree that they are misusing the term "commitment." You are just more tolerant of the misuse. And given the civil nature of your response, we can shake hands and are good with each other.
 

Tngamecock

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You want them to be committed to the school but the school is not committed to them. It’s not as even as you make it seem. I think it’s crazy to look at a football commitment like it’s a blood oath or something. The college can pull their scholarship at anytime year to year. The coach can tell them to hit the portal and the coach can leave.

If a kid commits in February and in June before signing day his position coach changes he should have to stay committed? If so that seem like fans just being selfish .
Funny how this was never a big issue until lately …..and now People use the “college can pull the scholarship“ line which is technically true to justify about any actions by athletes. But most all colleges dont do it bc it would look bad to other recruits and your program would suffer. Sometimes scholarships got pulled whrn violations occurred but if a player was working and making progress, they didn’t get pulled hardly ever. (And pulling a schollie is not the same as encouraging someone to look elsewhere).
 

Tngamecock

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Of course things can change.

But there is no such thing as "60% committed."

Now it's fair to say that "'Bama is presently my favourite."
I used to believe there is no such thing as 60% commitment…….but sadly we live in a world where teenagers can claim they are a cat, and schools are abiding by that. I know a school which had to put no cat tails or ears were allowed in the dress code. Yet if a student answers questions with a meow, or eats their lunch putting their plate or bowl on the floor and lapping the food…..nothing is to be done.

But what do we expect from a society that allows grown men claiming they identify as a woman to walk into and shower with young girls (and vilify the young girl for complaining). We used to call them pedophiles.

So I guess 60% commitment sound rationale to some people🥴
 

atl-cock

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I used to believe there is no such thing as 60% commitment…….but sadly we live in a world where teenagers can claim they are a cat, and schools are abiding by that. I know a school which had to put no cat tails or ears were allowed in the dress code. Yet if a student answers questions with a meow, or eats their lunch putting their plate or bowl on the floor and lapping the food…..nothing is to be done.

But what do we expect from a society that allows grown men claiming they identify as a woman to walk into and shower with young girls (and vilify the young girl for complaining). We used to call them pedophiles.

So I guess 60% commitment sound rationale to some people🥴
No. What that means is "At this point, I'm 60% leaning towards xxx."

Commitment means its 100% I'm going there, and am no longer visiting other schools.

I have no problem with the former. Just refrain from misuse of the word commitment.
 

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I was only partially committed to going to the grocery store Saturday, but after reviewing with my family we decided Sunday was the better day to commit fully.
 
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Tngamecock

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No. What that means is "At this point, I'm 60% leaning towards xxx."

Commitment means its 100% I'm going there, and am no longer visiting other schools.

I have no problem with the former. Just refrain from misuse of the word commitment.
I have no problem either. He can say anything he wants. So if you’re 60% sure you are going to commit there…say that.
 

atl-cock

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I have no problem either. He can say anything he wants. So if you’re 60% sure you are going to commit there…say that.
A better (and truthful) phraseology is "at this point, there's a 60% chance I'm going there."