OT: carcinogenic beer
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They are spraying that with synthetics. I would leave that alone, If I were you.
I was very surprised to find out madison county and rankin county rank number 1 and 2 on the per capita cancer rankings. Whatever they did to the soil or water or whatever is killing us all anyway.
All this is going to do is inspire some state AG to file a tobacco type suit which will eventually drive up the cost of booze .
Yeah, I somehow never had a point in my life when I was drinking every day, but there was definitely a time when Thurs-Sun was pretty normal. I think the biggest life changer for me was that I eventually got to a point with kids, work, and just normal life stuff where I didn't have time to waste an entire day away with a hangover. It was doable at 25, but not these days
Anyway, like you, with seemingly everything under the sun being labeled a possible carcinogen, I'll be damned if I'm gonna give up one of the few things that helps me really enjoy a weekend. That said, it will continue to be done in moderation, and I'm definitely following the recent trend in non-alcoholic THC/CBD drinks. I had one just this past Saturday during our basketball game, and I was feeling great
oh, I ain't planing on living forever, I'm going to enjoy the hell of the time I got here.
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In my mind, there is a strong distinction between "evidence shows that this risk MAY start to increase around one of fewer drinks per day" and "alcohol is a strong contributor to throat, esophageal, stomch and breast cancer".
So OM is gonna have a new NIL revenue source?
Even grilling has been reported to be carcinogenic. Moderation, to me, will always be key. IG God wants you, He’s gonna get you whether your a T totaller, vegan, or athlete or slob. No one gets out alive.
AN if it’s a meta analysis, color me skeptical.
AN if it’s a meta analysis, color me skeptical.
I stopped drinking in late 2019...or 2020. I think maybe early 2020 before covid? Dont exactly remember.
So despite being on the sidelines for this, I will say that if there are warning labels added to bottles/cans, that would be a good thing. And while they are at it, a full nutrition label needs to be on all bottles/cans BECAUSE ITS SOMETHING WE ARE 17ING INGESTING! There is no valid argument to not requiring alcohol to have nutrition labels.
I live in a state that has recently been declared the 2nd highest cancer rate so statistically I am kinda 17ed even if I dont drink alcohol. Hell, alcohol may soon be cleaner than our drinking water due to all the pigshit that floods into our waterways.
My priorities when it comes to cancer-
1- Governments need to view animal waste like human waste and make it be disposed of in an equally safe manner.
2- the US Government needs to reduce single use plastic by a 17ton. That basically means cut it in half. Microplastics in my balls is not something I should have to worry about! And why nothing is done, despite 70% of Congress being male, is bonkers. The chance of having microplastics in your balls should make anyone react with urgency!
3- The sun is going to cancer the hell out of the tips of my ears because I was as dumb as a Congressman and didnt slap a little sunscreen on when I was a kid or young adult. Now I put some on, but I totally know its a loss at this point.
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48- Label alcohol bottles with cancel warnings.
So despite being on the sidelines for this, I will say that if there are warning labels added to bottles/cans, that would be a good thing. And while they are at it, a full nutrition label needs to be on all bottles/cans BECAUSE ITS SOMETHING WE ARE 17ING INGESTING! There is no valid argument to not requiring alcohol to have nutrition labels.
I live in a state that has recently been declared the 2nd highest cancer rate so statistically I am kinda 17ed even if I dont drink alcohol. Hell, alcohol may soon be cleaner than our drinking water due to all the pigshit that floods into our waterways.
My priorities when it comes to cancer-
1- Governments need to view animal waste like human waste and make it be disposed of in an equally safe manner.
2- the US Government needs to reduce single use plastic by a 17ton. That basically means cut it in half. Microplastics in my balls is not something I should have to worry about! And why nothing is done, despite 70% of Congress being male, is bonkers. The chance of having microplastics in your balls should make anyone react with urgency!
3- The sun is going to cancer the hell out of the tips of my ears because I was as dumb as a Congressman and didnt slap a little sunscreen on when I was a kid or young adult. Now I put some on, but I totally know its a loss at this point.
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48- Label alcohol bottles with cancel warnings.
"people have no idea which cancers they are predisposed to because genome wide screening at reasonable cost is not come to fruition yet."
This has always intrigued me . At some point in the not to distant future one's parents (or parent) will be handed a road map of what the child's (and later adult) possible health problems could possibly be based on genetic predispositions and I would assume recommendations on how those problems can be avoided or at least mitigated. I guess I'm glad I didn't have such a map.
I believe this is already a thing sadly. This is genetically altering kids. Or is on the near horizon. THAT is crazy and scary and ultimately doing what Hitler wanted done in the first place. Didn’t they make a movie about this?
I used to be pretty passionate about this. But I quickly realized that I was shooting a BB gun at a freight train. Hardly anyone recycles, and most of the time, the recycled stuff ends up in the trash anyway. Go to any Costco, see the sheer amount of bottled waters being bought. Check out the garbage cans and field litter at any outdoor (or indoor, for that matter) travel sports tournament. Go look at any disaster relief staging point. It's staggering the amount of the bottles. Many people will willingly tell you that they no longer drink tap water (not going to get into why or why not now). Facing those type of odds, what can realistically be done?
I still use my bottles at home 3-4 times, maybe more, and generally only throw them out due to convenience, like if I'm in the car.
I wish we'd go back to the 70s/80s/early 90s when single use consumable liquid products came in glass bottles with a deposit on them or in cans. My reasoning is more to do with trash, go to many rivers, creeks, etc., and see how many plastic bottles are floating around, it's sickening. Recycle those glass bottles!
Speaking of the 80's, 90's, and glass bottles, I wish Michelob would bring back the old amber tear drop bottle. I love me some nostalgia, especially when it comes to booze.
We better maintain a strong and technically advanced military because a country full of people scared to drink out of a faucet won't be able to win a ground war. I'm amazed that my own wife, who grew up drinking out of a garden hose, can't drink from a faucet.
We're so old when we remember when Michelob and Lowenbrau were the "craft" beers.
Yeah, its for sure a matter of rolling a boulder up a hill.
I also used to give a 17, but now I mostly just sigh internally and move on. I definitely use single use plastic way more than I should, so some of that frustration is directed at me.
As for what can be done? The US could ban single use plastic bottles and cups. Like genuinely ban them.
- pop bottles could be glass(dumb), cans, or cardboard box.
- fountain drink cups could all be paper cups using sugarcane/cornstarch/whatever for the liquid barrier.
Smelting aluminum, or however the 17 we actually get a can, obviously isnt great for the environment. Nothing will be perfect. Maybe more aluminum is better since as a material it is recycled at a higher rate and because I have yet to hear about micro-aluminums getting into a guy's balls.
Cardboard boxed water or other liquids isnt perfect if the lining is plastic. But if that plastic lining releases fewer microplastics compared to a single pop bottle or bottled water, then maybe its a net positive change.
Biodegradable paper cups that are lined with sugarcane or cornstarch instead of plastic could work for situations where the cup wont hold liquid for more than a few days or weeks. These are PLA cups, to be clear. They arent perfect, but again, if they create less microplastics then perhaps thats a net positive change.
Single use clamshell containers for berries, lettuce, meat, etc probably wont stop. But eliminating all the single use bottles could be a good thing
Mine will drink from a faucet, its just that the faucet is now a separate faucet on our kitchen sink and is hooked up to this double chambered reverse osmosis system that apparently cleans everything bad from the water.
After our state relaxed the acceptable threshold of nitrates in drinking water for like the 3rd time in a decade, and then said 'its impossible to go back to what it used to be', she made an appointment for the water filtration apparatus.
I’m 67. Everything that gives me some enjoyment, happiness and relief from the everyday aches, pains and anxiety of life also stands a chance of giving me cancer. Also my time in the military service has exposed me to numerous carcinogens. 17 it! I’m going to go relatively happy and pain free.
I remember when this stuff was re-introduced and came out of retirement, it was considered a "fancy" beer. Turns out is was just Miller in a new Meister Brau can.
I was about to post that same thing. You did leave off "Let it be Lowenbrau"
I don't have an issue with filtration, or really any of it, it just drives me nuts that I have to go to the lobby of the hotel to get her water if we "run out". It seems that simply refilling the water bottle from the tap might be OK occasionally. It is not. Now when it comes to the real glass hotel room glasses, I'm out. I'll never be convinced they really clean those...
I remember when Killians burst on the scene (mid 90s?), i loved that stuff. Haven' seen it in many years.
who says I don't? The OP was asking about a legal alternative.
I saw some Michelob Ultra N/A over the weekend, never had seen it before. 0.0% alcohol w/ 29 calories. With 0% alcohol and 29 calories, why the hell spend $10 on a 12 pack?
I do remember one time I had a kidney infection that was killing me and I was going on a bayou red fish trip w/ some buys. I had been hurting enough that I didn't want to waste the antibiotics by killing them with alcohol so I bought some N/A beer. Not sure what was worse, the N/A beer or the kidney infection pain, it was a toss up.
I do remember one time I had a kidney infection that was killing me and I was going on a bayou red fish trip w/ some buys. I had been hurting enough that I didn't want to waste the antibiotics by killing them with alcohol so I bought some N/A beer. Not sure what was worse, the N/A beer or the kidney infection pain, it was a toss up.
im ready for soda and Gatorade to return to glass bottles. Those… were…. Awesome.
They can be made returnable again. You got people picking up aluminum cans for a few bucks a pound. What about a bottle for a nickel again?
no one is picking up plastic bottles except for people working off fines.
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