Cool, no subsidies of oil and gas. Fossil Fuel subsidies reached $7TRILLION last year. So cool, lets take that and improve roads and infrastructure.
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Cool, no subsidies of oil and gas. Fossil Fuel subsidies reached $7TRILLION last year. So cool, lets take that and improve roads and infrastructure.
Cool lets open up and drill on all,of,our leases and use our own coal. We would be energy independent.
The crooks are in full on looting mode, can’t be bothered to waste ttheir/our money on crumbling roads and bridges. Ukraine needs more money
Ukraine barely gets anything and is a wise investment to check Russian expansion. The elderly are our biggest expense and biggest recipients of government welfare. Good luck getting any party to seriously commit to spending less. The current Republican nominee added almost $8 trillion to the national debt during his 4 years in office and our current president will add a similar amount. Yet life is pretty damn good. We'll just stick someone else's kids and grandkids with the bill.
My neighbors lost their house in the March tornadoes. They are building back with a Barndeminium. He’s doing it right but he’s going totally off grid. Full solar with a generator backup. He’s doing all the solar himself and I’ve been helping him some. He’s buying all his appliances that will run off the batteries. He’s going to have close to $100,000 in all the equipment. Based on my electric bill it’s going to take 33+ years to recoup that money, he’s 60! I just don’t understand the benefits.
I have the hybrid F150 and love it. I live in Memphis and get 25-28 mpg in the city. I’m about to buy an EV for wife for around town. Because she can charge at home an not have to get gas! We go long distance we have truck. I believe situation dictates choice here. She just runs around east Memphis and G town.
The benefits is Kerry can fly all over the world in his personal jet!!
Ukraine got 113 Billion dollars of us taxpayer money in 2023 alone. Not sure what you’re smoking.
The making fun of people who drive electric cars movement will never make sense to me. Who cares? It’s not hurting anybody, it’s helping to push innovation forward, and it sure as hell isn’t stopping the production of ICE vehicles.
It’s the fact that the elites are forcing this down our throats, ie) elimination of all gas vehicles by 2034, etc etc. it won’t work and it will be a disaster. Ultimately it’s just a method of control and will limit people’s freedom of travel.
There is an elimination of all gas vehicles by 2034? Someone better tell my Governor because she hasn't gotten that memo.
A few months ago, the USDA, under Biden, committed to invest $2.2MM to expand renewable fuel at an Ethanol plant in my state.
Apparently the USDA also didn't know all gas vehicles will be eliminated in 2034.
...or what you said isn't correct.
Also, this isn't a method of control. F17S, that mental midget accusation is played out. So many things people simply dislike are deemed 'method of control'. Absurd.
Our federal budget is over $6 trillion. That's a cheap way to fight Pooty Poot and keep him from expanding into eastern Europe.
113 billion a year wasted/stolen in Ukraine is cheap ? We probably could have gold plated healthcare, jobs , infrastructure, secure borders with that loot and still have money left over. You’re high.
That’s not entirely true.
The current proposed government mandate for emissions by carmakers would mean that approximately 2/3rds of all vehicle sales be electric by 2032. If congress were comprised of a majority of the president’s party… it would be an actual mandate.
That would force ICE powered cars off the market. It arguably already is.
The EPA mandates in place have caused automakers to market engines that are far less reliable than comparable engines 20 years ago. The Ford ecoboost… AFM in GM… turbocharged engines by Toyota and Honda that just add more complexity to the power train… garbage CVT transmissions in Nissans… small diesel engines in trucks that cost a ton to fix when they need service…
Yeah, it's me. We could still have all that stuff and support Ukraine. I suspect you don't have a firm grasp on the actual costs of infrastructure improvements or how funds get allocated for them. "Gold plated," really dude.
This is one of the most BS things I have heard. I have a 100,000 warranty on the battery plus:
First generation Tesla's are still on the road with 200, 300, 400 and even a few with 400,000 miles and still going strong. Sure, these batterie diminish and won't drive as far but it's not like they are losing all of their charge and aren't drivable. You can drive these cars for years and years with the battery still having plenty of driving distance. You will be replacing your rearend, transmission, motor, a couple fuel pumps, several water pumps, U-Joints, spark plugs and wires, starter and countless oxygen sensors and I can't even think of it all you got to replace before I have to get an new battery. All I have to deal with is I won't be able to drive but 250 miles instead of 300 after 15 years. I can deal with that because I rarely drive that far in one day. I will be retired by then anyway.
I truly can't wait for Toyota to finally come out with that solid state battery... how close are they really... time for me to google. I got excited about it when I first heard about it but crickets....
Have you not even looked at the infrastructure bill that was passed in November 2021? It was a bi-partisan bill with support from both sides.
Ukraine money has nothing to do with this at all. What we give to Ukraine costs us $$ but not American lives. I got no problem supporting a country that wants to remain free and not become Putin's supply chest for more wars. It's way cheaper to give money to Ukraine than it is to deal with Russia once they get their hands on Ukraine. Putin will want more... Next up is Poland? then what? How far you willing to let that communist bastard go that kills anyone that dares to oppose him.
me either but...
I also don't see the benefit of a lot of things. It's way cheaper to buy meat than hunt for it and fishing? How many fish you gotta catch to pay for that boat and truck that was bought to haul it. Fishing and Hunting are not cost effective unless.... you do it on the cheap and not have all the hunting club dues, 4 wheelers, camera equipment, bait fields etc...
This guy wants to be self-sufficient. No worries and if he has the money, its his choice. I often considered a solar system as well but I need to be at least compatible in cost. Right now, electricity is cheap for residential homes.
Have you ever paid $800 for a round of golf? I have... once. Financially, that was stupid and I knew it but I wanted to play that course once.
Ummm 8 trillion is a hell of a lot more that 113 billion. You do know that right?
Nobody is forcing anything down your throat. The Oil industry subsidies are necessary so long as OPEC exists or we don't have other sources of fuel.
We simply cannot let OPEC control the market or it will run our Oil companies out of business so we give them trillions every year. What is wrong with trying to find a source of energy the gov't doesn't have subsidize. Oil is a drain on our taxes like no other thing other than maybe farming but we gotta eat. We don't have to drive gas cars. I don't see them being used for over the road trucks yet but EVs are in their infancy and they may improve to the point of them being much better than even I think.
EV's is one way to reduce our dependence on OIL so we can say go 17 yourself to OPEC and Russia. All kinds of alternative energy needs to be tried though and let the best source of energy win. Personally, I think it will never be just one source. I think we will need it all, including oil.
Oil being the only game in town for automobiles is a big mistake that needs to be addressed. EV's, Hydrogen cars, and all forms for electricity including the new cleaner burning propane I am seeing as a possibility.
Again, no one is forcing anything down your throat but the ones lying to you about how good or bad EVs truly are. They are not perfect but neither is an ICE.
Which means nothing, that mandate will be changed in a single day if it looks like the EVs truly suck.
No, you are. Putin wants the whole region. He won't be stopping until someone stops him. Why not let it be the Ukraine's who are dying instead of my grandchildren in ten years. You are poorly informed if you think Putin will stop after Ukraine.
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I'm gonna show you and post a video of them taking my gas stove when it happens. They can pry it out of my cold dead hands!
Sounds like I need to open an ICE dealership on the CA state line! Kind of like having a liquor store on the Rankin County line.
I'm certainly no tree-hugger, but I do like the idea of a vehicle that will get me from A to B without me having to purchase gas for $3/gal (or, whatever cost it is at any particular point in time).
Thus, I bought a new Nissan Leaf in December 2014. I thought this car would work for us in most of our driving situations, but I was not completely sure.
Today, we're still driving that Leaf, and it is about to exceed 100k miles on the odometer.
I haven't bought one drop of gas for that car, nor have I paid for any oil changes or tune-ups. In a little more than nine years of owning that car, I've bought two sets of tires, a 12-volt battery and windshield washer fluid.
This car has far exceeded my expectations of satisfaction and usability.
Oh yeah . . . I also got a $7500 tax credit for buying this car.
Having said this, I realize an EV is not for everyone.
Thus, I bought a new Nissan Leaf in December 2014. I thought this car would work for us in most of our driving situations, but I was not completely sure.
Today, we're still driving that Leaf, and it is about to exceed 100k miles on the odometer.
I haven't bought one drop of gas for that car, nor have I paid for any oil changes or tune-ups. In a little more than nine years of owning that car, I've bought two sets of tires, a 12-volt battery and windshield washer fluid.
This car has far exceeded my expectations of satisfaction and usability.
Oh yeah . . . I also got a $7500 tax credit for buying this car.
Having said this, I realize an EV is not for everyone.
I see the light. With the amount we've given to Ukraine, we can have gold plated healthcare, highways, interstates and bridges. In fact, we'll still have money left over for gold-plated sewers and to keep social security and medicare solvent for the next 100 years while sending every American household a patriotic commemorative medallion that has a bald eagle on one side and the word freedom on the other. That's how much we spend on Ukraine. Wake up, sheeple!
Putin is hitler, 113 billion in money laundering for coke head zelensky is a bargain, Lol, turn off faux news.
That is not an elimination of all gas vehicles. If you think it is, you are grossly misinformed. That only applies to CA and the states that choose to follow CARB. About 80% of states dont apply. Further, the 2035 mandate does not eliminate all gas vehicles because THEY CANT STILL BE BOTH REGISTERED AND DRIVEN IN CA EVEN AFTER 2035.
Seriously, do you not read the thread's prior posts? This has all been discussed.
At this point, with this many responses and clarifications that show the sky is not falling, I figured I would just respond to your comment in red with...
"If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we'd all have a Merry Christmas"
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