If you were forced to leave the USA for the rest of your life, which country would you want to settle in and why?
OT: Living in Another Country
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Greenland, nobody cares about and will leave you alone, wait , you say it's the 51st state???
Oh Lawdy. I know State baseball is bad right now, but I don’t know if it’s worth leaving the country for.
I was going to say someplace with a better health care system, but that doesn’t really narrow it down much.
Australia… north of Sydney.
Similar food to ours.. beautiful weather, beaches and women. Welcoming to Americans.
Similar food to ours.. beautiful weather, beaches and women. Welcoming to Americans.
Belize. English is official language. Good food, diving, fishing. Beautiful beaches. Not overcrowded or too expensive.
France. Or Italy. Or the U.K. in that order
You ever been to France? Bruh…. They get their reputation honestly.
I’m going to choose to ignore the negative aspects and say Canada. Specifically BC. It’s beautiful and the big game hunting is unreal.
I disagree
2018 — State loses the first game of the Tallahassee Regional
The next morning I leave for a week and a half vacation outside the US.
State wins the Tallahassee Regional. Friends joke about creating a GoFundMe to keep me out of America. The jokes continue when we beat Vandy in the Super Regional.
Bonus: Ole Miss is eliminated by Tennessee Tech.
I return to Mississippi and make jokes about State going 2 & barbecue in the CWS now that I’m back.
Fortunately that doesn’t happen
Either Japan or Germany. Both have jobs for engineers.
I’ve been kind of thinking about the possibility of doing that voluntarily.
I have only one first cousin living in Mississippi.
My mother and stepfather are in their mid-80s and my in-state roots aren’t that great anymore. At least for as long as they’re living, I’m staying here.
My first choice is to remain in-state and Hattiesburg is the most likely place.
My second choice is to go to the Carolinas or possibly somewhere between St. Louis and Nashville where I have family and friends.
My third choice: Why not go someplace in the Caribbean or Central America? But first I have to visit some countries.
I prefer Europe but there are hoops to jump through.
Panama, Belize, or Costa Rico. All have big ex-pat communities.
I was going to say the same thing. Heath care is improving due to the amount of Gringos retiring down there.
France, really? Anyone I've ever spoken with about a visit to Europe said France was at the bottom of their list of favorite countries
I'd probably say New Zealand. I have a good friend that lives there and is in the process of gaining citizenship there. Another buddy went to grad school at a University down there. Wherever in this hypothetical I would move to would at least be somewhere that the time zones are so far apart that between there and Mississippi I couldn't watch a Mississippi State sporting event without already knowing the final score.
I’m interested to know which places have a better overall system.
I’m a single 43 year old male.
probably somewhere cheap with some attractive exotic women.
Italy. No doubt about it. It is beautiful there. And the food is great.
Belize.
English speaking, good outdoors activities, relatively inexpensive for Caribbean, relatively safe, central timezone, good weather besides the occasional life ending hurricane.
Victoria BC.
English speaking, good outdoors activities,established Healthcare, good education level, safe, easy and cheap to travel to US and visit family in Seattle.
English speaking, good outdoors activities, relatively inexpensive for Caribbean, relatively safe, central timezone, good weather besides the occasional life ending hurricane.
Victoria BC.
English speaking, good outdoors activities,established Healthcare, good education level, safe, easy and cheap to travel to US and visit family in Seattle.
You better Belize it!
Yup. A bunch of times and two more this year. Great place. Just make some friends when you go.
Speak to me. It's at the top with Italy except I have friends in France.
Only been to France once.
The Normandy region was pretty welcoming to Americans — of course this was just after the 50th anniversary of D-Day.
California, once you get away from the big coast cities the people are pretty nice. They use the US dollar and mostly speak English.
I'll comment on places I have been that people mentioned.
I've been to France 3 times. Once as part of our high school senior trip. Outside of Germany, Switzerland, Italy, France, and England, it was by far the worst. The last two times only because I was paid to go. It SUCKS. Its really dirty everywhere except around the tourist attractions. The stereotype of them hating Americans is true.
I liked England because of all of the historical places that you can visit. Switzerland was way too liberal for me, and not just the politics. Italy and Germany for the history and they have beautiful country.
Belize used to be great, but the crime rate is horrible. google it. It has a travel warning.
Australia, where Xenomorph said, or New Zealand.
Canada is great, except the government is HORRIBLE. The healthcare system is worse. It may be cheap/free but you get what you pay for.
Argentina is really good.
Japan was nice, but too crowded for me.
Panama is miserably hot for my fat butt and I'm sure for most SPS-ers.
I've been to France 3 times. Once as part of our high school senior trip. Outside of Germany, Switzerland, Italy, France, and England, it was by far the worst. The last two times only because I was paid to go. It SUCKS. Its really dirty everywhere except around the tourist attractions. The stereotype of them hating Americans is true.
I liked England because of all of the historical places that you can visit. Switzerland was way too liberal for me, and not just the politics. Italy and Germany for the history and they have beautiful country.
Belize used to be great, but the crime rate is horrible. google it. It has a travel warning.
Australia, where Xenomorph said, or New Zealand.
Canada is great, except the government is HORRIBLE. The healthcare system is worse. It may be cheap/free but you get what you pay for.
Argentina is really good.
Japan was nice, but too crowded for me.
Panama is miserably hot for my fat butt and I'm sure for most SPS-ers.
“Better” depends on your definition and situation. If you are in the US with insurance and easy access to quality care, then “better” might mean less money for the same.
If you are one of the 26 million Americans without health insurance better might just mean you have access to decent healthcare.
I don’t think there is a magic formula that I’ve seen that solves the disparity. No matter where you live more money means better healthcare.
It would have to be somewhere warm with English being commonly spoken. Being i’m a college sports fans, it’d need to be in a time zone that lined up with that. Caribbean Island or Central America.
Been reading where a ton of Americans are retiring to Europe due to the cost of living. Italy has been at the top of the list , I could do that.
I don't know if I could actually pull the trigger, but we really liked Victoria, British Columbia; specifically Oak Bay.
Would be highly dependent on how much money I have and how much time I have left. If I had plenty of money, either Italy (although I haven't been in a while and don't know how badly they are being impacted by immigration) or the Bahamas. Virgin Islands would be another good option with money, particularly if the US Virgin Islands.
With very little money, I'd at least look at Thailand. Hard to say because I haven't been there; just based on reputation. Somewhere in between on money, I'd probably look at Costa Rica, Panama, or Belize, but again, that's just on reputation, not places I've been.
Not criticism but the above caught my eye. Moving into a country of foreigners worried if they have foreigners? I don’t understand that general concern.
I am hoping he said that in as a way to express that perhaps a place which has experienced a surge in recent immigration may not be the ideal location because housing, infrastructure, etc would likely be stressed and that could make for a less than ideal living experience.
In every scenario posted in this thread...we are the immigrants.
I have read travel warnings about a specific part of Belize City. Islands, inland, and rural coast seem to be void of the issues that are in a specific part of the main city.
The chart below is kinda interesting- its homicide rate per 100K for all countries, sorted highest to lowest, from mostly 2022. The Caribbean is really punching above its weight on this!
The Caribbean and Latin America combined are crushing the competition. 17 out of the top 19 spots?!
The healthcare system is worse than horrible? It could be better, but claiming it is worse than horrible is a helluva dramatic take.
Canada spends 65% less of its GDP than the US spends on healthcare and has a lower infant mortality rate and higher life expectancy...which are common measures of effective healthcare(though many factors impact both stats).
- Canada is known to have a longer wait time for non-emergency surgery or non-emergency specialist consults.
- US is known to literally bankrupt people for being treated.
- US is known for people delaying or avoiding medical care due to cost, which reduces early detection.
Canada ranks poorly amongst high income countries in the categories of access and equity because dental care and medication arent universal benefits. So the very things that arent included are what hurts them. Spending more of its GDP on healthcare would bring those things in as benefits and the country would rank higher than it currently does while still spending less as a % of GDP than the US.
Canada ranged in the top 10% of a decades long analysis of Healthcare Access and Quality in 195 countries.
The reality of systems like healthcare within countries is that they are complex and difficult to benchmark. But what is easy is to know that Canada's healthcare is not worse than horrible.
gotcha. It just hit me as funny/ironic. I didn't assume anything "bad" because, obviously if the OP doesn't like foreigners, in general, he would not be talking positively about potential moves (even hypothetically).