Ireland. Went there for my honeymoon and would love to go back and settle into a small village somewhere. Just have to be rich enough to have a personal driver so I don't kill myself driving on the wrong side of the road.
I think that the waits for what their system call non-emergency is pretty bad at times. I have a friend in Edmonton who had a hernia that he could not get treated in a reasonable amount of time. Very painful, sidelining his daily work to a large degree. He told me he "got lucky" because his intestine got pinched in a way that made it life threatening, so he got to get surgery quickly.I have read travel warnings about a specific part of Belize City. Islands, inland, and rural coast seem to be void of the issues that are in a specific part of the main city.
The chart below is kinda interesting- its homicide rate per 100K for all countries, sorted highest to lowest, from mostly 2022. The Caribbean is really punching above its weight on this!
The Caribbean and Latin America combined are crushing the competition. 17 out of the top 19 spots?!
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The healthcare system is worse than horrible? It could be better, but claiming it is worse than horrible is a helluva dramatic take.
Canada spends 65% less of its GDP than the US spends on healthcare and has a lower infant mortality rate and higher life expectancy...which are common measures of effective healthcare(though many factors impact both stats).
- Canada is known to have a longer wait time for non-emergency surgery or non-emergency specialist consults.
- US is known to literally bankrupt people for being treated.
- US is known for people delaying or avoiding medical care due to cost, which reduces early detection.
Canada ranks poorly amongst high income countries in the categories of access and equity because dental care and medication arent universal benefits. So the very things that arent included are what hurts them. Spending more of its GDP on healthcare would bring those things in as benefits and the country would rank higher than it currently does while still spending less as a % of GDP than the US.
Canada ranged in the top 10% of a decades long analysis of Healthcare Access and Quality in 195 countries.
The reality of systems like healthcare within countries is that they are complex and difficult to benchmark. But what is easy is to know that Canada's healthcare is not worse than horrible.
Not criticism but the above caught my eye. Moving into a country of foreigners worried if they have foreigners? I don’t understand that general concern.
Not worried if they have foreigners. Worried if they have violent ones. That's why I said "badly impacted". From what I can tell, they are well behind France as far as having immigrants that hate the country and its infidel residents, but hard to say without being on the ground in places you'd actually live as opposed to the touristy areas.I am hoping he said that in as a way to express that perhaps a place which has experienced a surge in recent immigration may not be the ideal location because housing, infrastructure, etc would likely be stressed and that could make for a less than ideal living experience.
In every scenario posted in this thread...we are the immigrants.
Gotcha. I havent really thought to delineate foreigner violence from native violence since ultimately its violence in an area. I dont really care if it came from people who were born there or people who came there after birth. They seem equally bad to me.Not worried if they have foreigners. Worried if they have violent ones. That's why I said "badly impacted". From what I can tell, they are well behind France as far as having immigrants that hate the country and its infidel residents, but hard to say without being on the ground in places you'd actually live as opposed to the touristy areas.
I think that I would like to spend a multi-month period in any country that I was considering moving to permanently to see what it is really like. Hard to get a perspective without abandoning the regular tourist paths and embedding in the culture for some amount of time.Not worried if they have foreigners. Worried if they have violent ones. That's why I said "badly impacted". From what I can tell, they are well behind France as far as having immigrants that hate the country and its infidel residents, but hard to say without being on the ground in places you'd actually live as opposed to the touristy areas.
Emotionally, it is hard for people to get over the person being killed by someone who "shouldn't even be here" vs someone that was a native (i.e. they were going be here because they are citizens). Realistically, our undocumented immigrants commit crimes at a rate that is lower than US citizens, but we are used to our own crime. Kind of like you can punch your brother and beat him half to death, but nobody else better try it. The frequency of you beating on your brother is much higher than others, but hits different.Gotcha. I havent really thought to delineate foreigner violence from native violence since ultimately its violence in an area. I dont really care if it came from people who were born there or people who came there after birth. They seem equally bad to me.
Don’t worryIreland. Went there for my honeymoon and would love to go back and settle into a small village somewhere. Just have to be rich enough to have a personal driver so I don't kill myself driving on the wrong side of the road.
I have read travel warnings about a specific part of Belize City. Islands, inland, and rural coast seem to be void of the issues that are in a specific part of the main city.
The chart below is kinda interesting- its homicide rate per 100K for all countries, sorted highest to lowest, from mostly 2022. The Caribbean is really punching above its weight on this!
The Caribbean and Latin America combined are crushing the competition. 17 out of the top 19 spots?!
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The healthcare system is worse than horrible? It could be better, but claiming it is worse than horrible is a helluva dramatic take.
Canada spends 65% less of its GDP than the US spends on healthcare and has a lower infant mortality rate and higher life expectancy...which are common measures of effective healthcare(though many factors impact both stats).
- Canada is known to have a longer wait time for non-emergency surgery or non-emergency specialist consults.
- US is known to literally bankrupt people for being treated.
- US is known for people delaying or avoiding medical care due to cost, which reduces early detection.
Canada ranks poorly amongst high income countries in the categories of access and equity because dental care and medication arent universal benefits. So the very things that arent included are what hurts them. Spending more of its GDP on healthcare would bring those things in as benefits and the country would rank higher than it currently does while still spending less as a % of GDP than the US.
Canada ranged in the top 10% of a decades long analysis of Healthcare Access and Quality in 195 countries.
The reality of systems like healthcare within countries is that they are complex and difficult to benchmark. But what is easy is to know that Canada's healthcare is not worse than horrible.
I’m more talking more about the insurance side. Im paying a stupid amount for insurance only to have to fight with them because they keep denying ****.I’m interested to know which places have a better overall system.
Well, I don't think there is a western european country (which in my mind is basically scandinavia, Germany, Austria, and Italy and everything wets to them; not sure where everybody else would draw that line) that is dangerous by US standards without it stemming from muslim immigration, whether recent immigrants or unassimilated populations.Gotcha. I havent really thought to delineate foreigner violence from native violence since ultimately its violence in an area. I dont really care if it came from people who were born there or people who came there after birth. They seem equally bad to me.
The UK to enjoy the historical sites.If you were forced to leave the USA for the rest of your life, which country would you want to settle in and why?
I've been to France. I thought it was great. I 'll qualify that by saying that I have never been to Paris. I hear it's not like the rest of the country.France, really? Anyone I've ever spoken with about a visit to Europe said France was at the bottom of their list of favorite countries
Thats terrible to hear.I have an in-law and know of 2 others that have waited for more than an year for surgeries that were life threatening that people here are able to get immediately. So, yeah, I would call that worse than horrible.
Canadians spend more money (in taxes) but they don’t have better healthcare.“Better” depends on your definition and situation. If you are in the US with insurance and easy access to quality care, then “better” might mean less money for the same.
If you are one of the 26 million Americans without health insurance better might just mean you have access to decent healthcare.
I don’t think there is a magic formula that I’ve seen that solves the disparity. No matter where you live more money means better healthcare.
Not all immigrants are the same.I am hoping he said that in as a way to express that perhaps a place which has experienced a surge in recent immigration may not be the ideal location because housing, infrastructure, etc would likely be stressed and that could make for a less than ideal living experience.
In every scenario posted in this thread...we are the immigrants.
Honestly, the common factor across all nations is to have timely healthcare when you want it, you just have to have money. In the US that means you likely have insurance and can keep up with the out of pocket stuff and pay when insurance denies. In other countries, that means you can pay for private healthcare or fly to the US worst case if you want treatment on your terms/time frame.Thats terrible to hear.
There are examples of people in the US going without care because of cost, and dying from undiagnosed issues.
As posted earlier- healthcare systems are complex and have areas to improve- whether they are private for-profit, government managed, or a mix of both.
If a top priority of yours is healthcare, and you view your current setup(and projected setup) as ideal, it is best that you stay in the US for this hypothetical. No need to participate in the thread then.
I have read travel warnings about a specific part of Belize City. Islands, inland, and rural coast seem to be void of the issues that are in a specific part of the main city.
The chart below is kinda interesting- its homicide rate per 100K for all countries, sorted highest to lowest, from mostly 2022. The Caribbean is really punching above its weight on this!
The Caribbean and Latin America combined are crushing the competition. 17 out of the top 19 spots?!
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In the past 5 years my daughter has been twice once for work and once for what was supposed to be a 10 day vacation. Her and 4 others changed plans and left after 3 days went to Spain instead of staying in France. All agreed it was the biggest gathering of self centered narcissistic azz holes outside of Vaught Hemingway stadium. Overinflated opinions of themselves and they don't care for us amigos and don't go out of their way to show any appreciation for you being there.Speak to me. It's at the top with Italy except I have friends in France.
Spain reminds me of Mexico.In the past 5 years my daughter has been twice once for work and once for what was supposed to be a 10 day vacation. Her and 4 others changed plans and left after 3 days went to Spain instead of staying in France. All agreed it was the biggest gathering of self centered narcissistic azz holes outside of Vaught Hemingway stadium. Overinflated opinions of themselves and they don't care for us amigos and don't go out of their way to show any appreciation for you being there.
Sister in law and brother in law went about a year ago and said never again. Surprisingly they said the food was terrible and the people even worse.
My boss went earlier this year with her daughter, they both say no reason for them to ever go back. They didn't have terrible things to say, just nothing positive.
All agreed that the melting pot it has become for refugees from all around was part of the problem.
I have no opinion but just don't hear anything positive.
Yeah, obviously. And on a related note, not all native born citizens are the same. That also should be obvious.Not all immigrants are the same.
Daughter has been there twice and loves it. Cheap, great food, says the people are super friendly, like Mexico without the danger I guess. Not somewhere I desire to go but each to their own I guessSpain reminds me of Mexico.
Most of them say different. They spend less money on it than we do, and it’s not even close.Canadians spend more money (in taxes) but they don’t have better healthcare.
Estonia is awesome.We talk about this randomly from time to time. Our list in no particular order usually consists of : Poland, Norway, Estonia, Ireland, Germany
Me personally, Poland is by far and away the favorite.
Obivously it was obvious.Yeah, obviously. And on a related note, not all native born citizens are the same. That also should be obvious.
Given the obviousness, what is your point?
Less Than Half (48%) of Canadians Are Satisfied with Their Provincial Healthcare System – The Same Result as Last Year | IpsosMost of them say different. They spend less money on it than we do, and it’s not even close.
Just going by talking to them. your poll just says they are dissatisfied, not that they don’t think they have better healthcare care than us. You were way off on what they spend.
They pay a hell of a lot more in taxes than we do and they don’t get near the product we have.Just going by talking to them. your poll just says they are dissatisfied, not that they don’t think they have better healthcare care than us. You were way off on what they spend.