Penn State - Iowa 2023 dual thread

SurgeOne

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Well, Murin surprised me. I didn’t think he would beat SVN, but SVN had no offense. Outside of that, it went about as I expected. Facundo is right there with all the top guys. He will get better and be in line for a good finish in March.
I didn’t think SVN would beat Murin. He’s very strong, good D, serviceable TD shot
 

Tom McAndrew

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I believe with criteria C, it's total match points scored by each wrestler, not team points.

Believe this is correct. The third criterion is the total of individual match points, neglecting the points scored in any bout won by pin.

125: Iowa 18, PSU 2
133: pin
141: Iowa 4, PSU 1
149: Iowa 4, PSU 1
157: Iowa 2, PSU 3
165: Iowa 2, PSU 1
174: Iowa 1, PSU 2
184: Iowa 7, PSU 22
197: Iowa 0, PSU 2
285: pin (hypothetical)

Total: Iowa 38, PSU 34

Good catch. It's been several years since I had a HS match come down to criteria. A funny note on that -- it's a common theme amongst refs to not read the rule book in front of people, or to bring it out if there is a question during the match. You're supposed to read it in advance, and know it forward and backwards. The only exception is if a match gets to criteria. It happens so infrequently, plus in HS you never know how well the books have been maintained during the match. So to get things right if a match result does come down to criteria, we do bring out the book for that, as we usually need a refresher on what the criteria are.
 

Spinpsu

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Yes. He’s just so vanilla. Hasn’t really improved on offense in all his time at Iowa. That said, SVN needs to find his offense and get out from bottom. He’s a freshman. He’ll figure it out.
To be honest as mentioned Iowa wrestlers never improve. It’s just a fact. Their style is VERY boring. The elite best like to dominate and score points. Iowa has not developed wrestlers for decades. Just a fact. PSU guys ALWAYS get better as the season progresses and are great from year to year. Can’t wait till big tens. First let’s crush Ohio State this weekend. 🥇
 

Spinpsu

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Micah is not a small guy. Maybe it's the camera angle, but Carter looks bigger than Parsons.
Carter is a freaking BEAST. Gonna be one of the best ever. Young man will be a top 5 draft pick if used right. Love to see him at MLB. Let him make huge plays on both sides of the field plus hammer RB between the tackle’s. Parsons knows how great Carter is now.
 

gslachta1

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Believe this is correct. The third criterion is the total of individual match points, neglecting the points scored in any bout won by pin.

125: Iowa 18, PSU 2
133: pin
141: Iowa 4, PSU 1
149: Iowa 4, PSU 1
157: Iowa 2, PSU 3
165: Iowa 2, PSU 1
174: Iowa 1, PSU 2
184: Iowa 7, PSU 22
197: Iowa 0, PSU 2
285: pin (hypothetical)

Total: Iowa 38, PSU 34
So if Lee gets the pin and hypothetical Hwt pin doesn’t happen it’s 32-20 Penn State. Criteria win is arbitrary and STUPID.
 

Spinpsu

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Iowa looked very good today against Oklahoma State. Big tens are gonna be Insane. We need bonus points big time coming out of the Gate.
 
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