That's right, I didn't think so. Some folks complain no matter what, some folks are a sheep no matter what. Then there are a lot in the middle where reality lies. You are one of the sheep. You're just a little younger than the genespage variety.
Forbes, Matthews, Green, Wheat, Young. 8 or 9, 5, all the same.
Malzahn averaged 8-4 at freaking Auburn. He’d be a disaster here.
I will grant you that there are none as wacky as Leach. Rich Rod would be my guy, and he'd come. Won big at WV and was about to win big at Michigan. Also won at Arizona. We'd be his farewell tour and you know he'd be hungry. He's got baggage and that fits right in at MSU.
And Arnett would have been where he's supposed to be - coordinating the defense. Still not exactly sure why he decided to go away from this. I guess crossing your arms is more fun.
He got a lot of good ol boy bad advice, they knew better*
Yes and Yes. I was replying the fact that he said that these were the same players.
On offense, we lost our best receiver, our best olineman and one of the two best rbs( i think he was the best of our rbs) So no, not essentially every starter returning.
I'm hoping you're comparing the 2 star or unrated guys to NY strips because NY strips are terrible.
I can assure I’m in the middle and you are on the “I’m smarter than everyone side”.
Fair point. But every player that is currently a starter, has been a starter at some point, and played a bunch of snaps. Bottom line, the Air Raid would be humming right now.
Hey man, don't you be talking about my sports management. I'll always be the coach of the Grand Slam 2022 March Madness Superslam champs (1st out of 4 teams but RiNgZ)
Rich Rod was “about to win big at Michigan”? Were you even at that Gator Bowl? Holy hell. He was 1 game over .500 overall at Arizona and Michigan. He was 21-40 in conference play at those schools, when he was never at a talent disadvantage like what we face against half the teams on our schedule every year. And on top of all that, he’s 60 years old right now. Just a horrid choice for HC, as is Malzahn.
More than the number of starters lost, it's the quality lost and not adequately replaced. Forbes, Wheat and Charlton were HUGE losses.
I’d about as soon just keep Arnett if Rich Rod is the best we can do (he’s not).
Yeah. There's a few (not many) players that MIGHT get drafted late. But there's no one on this roster you look at and say, "That's an NFL player." And that hasn't been the case for a long time.
So that’s your rebuttal? We keep Arnett, or we hire some garbage replacement like Malzahn or RichRod? We have only those 3 options? How about exploring some of the other 99.8% of candidates for coaching MSU in the future.
They’re both terrible compared to ribeyes / filets. That’s the issue. Sirloins are worse though, for the record.
No it isn't. Our WR, RB, QB rooms are/was full of talent. Arnett is the one that recruited the defense. He's also the HC that finished in the portal.
Tall that to Bama, LSU, UGA... etc. I guess none of those rankings were worth their weight............................................................................
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Full of shot post. The top talent in MS has been snatched up for decades.
I don’t GAF about website rankings when they are in High School. We don’t actually get better on the field from taking Bama / Miami washouts just because they had 4* by their name on a website. I care about who we get out of guys in MS that are unanimously considered the best players by actual offers and recruiting focus from multiple SEC programs. We haven’t landed an elite MS kid since Forbes in 2020…who committed to Moorhead. Period. Which means Leach never even signed one. That’s not all on him or his staff, but its a fact. You’re an imbecile to assume Bama / LSU always got the best MS kids. They didn’t get Forbes, Gay, Simmons, Cox, AJ Brown, Metcalf, Moncrief, Cross, etc. That’s a who’s who of the very best MS players of the past 15 years before the NIL chaos ensued, and almost all of them stayed in state.
No it isn't what?
In other words.... you are full of shot.
Genespage talent evaluators being 100% accurate in their assessment of player skill is about as far from a fact as you can get, but I’m clearly trying to teach Algebra to a 2 year old so I’ll just let you keep on your dumbass crusade. 5 years from now when we’re on our 5th straight season of 6-7 wins or less under any number of head coaches between then and now, I’ll be here to say “I told you so” while you are still bitching and complaining about 11 personnel vs. 10 or whatever the f*ck else.
Good lord. Our QB room has never been as good as Will Rogers and Mike Wright? RB’s never been better than Marks / Pittman / etc.?
Interesting on Rogers...To provide more context on this discussion from an objective source, see below. This site rates every possible draft prospect we have. I have no idea how accurate it is historically, but it’s the only site I can find anywhere that shows any of our players being taken in the draft at all. And it’s just 1 player - currently projects Woody as a 5th rounder, with literally every other player being projected as UDFA. And late round RB’s are a total crapshoot, I could just as easily see Woody being not drafted.
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If you could set a Vegas line on how many draft picks came from MSU - it’d be 0.5 for MSU in 2024. And that’s a pretty horrible position for any SEC team to be in.
| Game performance weighted rating. Click the links below to view how player ranks vs other prospects. | ||
| Release Speed: | 94% | |
| Short Passing: | 74% | |
| Medium Passing: | 75% | |
| Long Passing: | 96% |
Only a dumbass would demand that we missed on all of those players. There is no reality in it.
With Leach. I said nothing about what we have in Mike Wright except when I was on here telling you that demanded the back up because the staff needed to prove to YOU he could not do and until then Roger's sucks and needs to go.
