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ETK99

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Arkansas fans were delighted to see him leave their staff.
Borrowed from pay side on Kennedy:

2019-#2 rushing offense in the AAC/#11 in the nation
2020-#1 rushing offense in the AAC/#17 in the nation
2021-#1 rushing offense in the SEC/#7 in the nation
2022-#2 rushing offense in the SEC/#7 in the nation
 

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The portal wasn't strong this last round, you had to take what you could get. Leach is who failed to evaluate talent and 100% the reason for even having to hit the portal. He left a mess here along with Arnett.
So every other p4 team can find players in the portal but us. Arkansas ole miss arizona arizona state can but we just cant find em. its all Leachs fault from 3 portal classes ago.

wow. Talk about BS
 
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I know it would not be an improvement this year but Lockhart, Lewis, Smith and Work need to start getting playing time on the OL. I know they will get whipped but it's an investment in the future. Same with Head Hibbler and McClendon. Which tbh they already have played some.
 

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So every other p4 team can find players in the portal but us. Arkansas ole miss arizona arizona state can but we just cant find em. its all Leachs fault from 3 portal classes ago.

wow. Talk about BS
You think a rebuild is the same as a contender? Arkansas hasn't looked good either. We signed one of the largest portal classes in the country. We wouldn't need to do that if your boy Leach had done his damn job.
 

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If the yutes can tackle, I'm all for it.
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You think a rebuild is the same as a contender? Arkansas hasn't looked good either. We signed one of the largest portal classes in the country. We wouldn't need to do that if your boy Leach had done his damn job.
That doesnt even make sense. You are talking gibberish. There is a vast grand canyon between us and arkansas. They did it in one class. Why are you going back three portal classes to try to shift blame ?
 
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That doesnt even make sense. You are talking gibberish. There is a vast grand canyon between us and arkansas. They did it in one class. Why are you going back three portal classes to try to shift blame ?
Thats still different. Arkansas made a big jump but the majority of their staff stayed on the job. Its a little easier to know what holes you need to fill and how to go about filling them, when you've already worked with the players and in the program.

Lebby and Company came anew. They had to evaluate the talent on hand before they could fill in the gaps.

There is still no excuse for how theyve filled in the gaps so far... but the 1 year turn arounds are not the norm.
 

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Thats still different. Arkansas made a big jump but the majority of their staff stayed on the job. Its a little easier to know what holes you need to fill and how to go about filling them, when you've already worked with the players and in the program.

Lebby and Company came anew. They had to evaluate the talent on hand before they could fill in the gaps.

There is still no excuse for how theyve filled in the gaps so far... but the 1 year turn arounds are not the norm.
Schools all over the country upgrade in one portal class. What are you talking about ? What defensive player did we add under arnett or
Lebby out of the portal ?
 
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I thought Arkansas made a lot of offensive changed from 23 to 24. OL coach for one. Isn't the OC different also ? Lebby added a handful this off-season on the D. Not sure any of them are any good tho. Blanton Kpaka KBJ and 3 or 4 DBs
 
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Sorry, should have used sarcasterisks. Was mainly just taking a shot at Lebby.

And in actuality, Lebby didn't run off freshmen. He ran off sophomores and juniors (who could be playing). So you're right.
Not gonna argue that he did run some guys off. His replacements are not a big improvement. Playing freshmen would be a disaster too but at this point who cares ? I don't. 17 it
 

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Schools all over the country upgrade in one portal class. What are you talking about ? What defensive player did we add under arnett or
Lebby out of the portal ?
Upgrade yes. And that should have happened.

A complete turn around or anything of the such... typically doesnt happen in one portal class.

Again im not defending lebby. The product on Saturday is all that has to be said about Lebby and the job hes done so far. But we were 4-8 last season and had one of the weakest rosters in the SEC. We werent going to flip it in one season....... but again Saturday was beyond belief bad.
 
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Schools all over the country upgrade in one portal class. What are you talking about ? What defensive player did we add under arnett or
Lebby out of the portal ?
Who rebuilt in one year with one portal class? I'll hang up and listen. This is a massive rebuild
 

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Who rebuilt in one year with one portal class? I'll hang up and listen. This is a massive rebuild
Arizona last year. Arkansas this year Happens all over the country. Lmao

we havent added a defensive player in two portal classes. That is unheard of. And u clowns want to go back three portal classes to try to shift blame to a coach who is dead.
 

HuntDawg

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Who rebuilt in one year with one portal class? I'll hang up and listen. This is a massive rebuild
It is... we were 4-8 last year and easily fielded one of the worst rosters in the SEC

But saturday was a totally different level. That was 20-25-30 years ago bad. We got ran off the field by MAC program

So while I want to give Lebby some understanding for what he took over... What happened Saturday should NOT have happened at all... and that is squarely on Lebby, and raises more than just 1 red flag to me, that he aint the guy
 

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Arizona last year. Arkansas this year Happens all over the country. Lmao
Arkansas isnt the same... Pittman is on year 5... and took over after back to back 2-10 seasons... and went 3-7 year 1.

Arizona was on year 3 with their coach. Who went 1-11, 5-7, then 10-3.... Not a 1 year build... good try though
 

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Arkansas isnt the same.

Arizona was on year 3 with their coach. Who went 1-11, 5-7, then 10-3.... Not a 1 year build... good try though
Arkansas isnt the same.

Arizona was on year 3 with their coach. Who went 1-11, 5-7, then 10-3.... Not a 1 year build... good try though
Wait. Arkansas last year isnt a portal rebuild. ? Bs look at their roster o line running back defensive line lb db. You are so full of it. Where is our portal rebuild in two years ?
 

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Wait. Arkansas last year isnt a portal rebuild. ? Bs look at their roster o line running back defensive line lb db. You are so full of it. Where is our portal rebuild in two years ?
What are you calling a portal rebuild?

Guess thats the first definition we need to figure out. Everyone adds from the portal. But the program wasnt completely overhauled by the portal. Neither was Arizona's. They have some of their guys in place and built into the system..its not entirely built out of the portal.

We havent had 2 years to rebuild. Is the point. You cant blame Lebby for Arnett issues.
 

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Wait. Arkansas last year isnt a portal rebuild. ? Bs look at their roster o line running back defensive line lb db. You are so full of it. Where is our portal rebuild in two years ?
BTW: if their depth chart is correct only 8 starters on Arkansas are portal guys and 15 of their top 44.

we start 10, and have 17 on our 2 deep.... for comparsion purposes...

so not sure how arkansas is portal built and we arent...
 

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Arizona last year. Arkansas this year Happens all over the country. Lmao

we havent added a defensive player in two portal classes. That is unheard of. And u clowns want to go back three portal classes to try to shift blame to a coach who is dead.
Fisch had a losing record year one. That didn't happen. Last year was year three bud. Arkansas almost lost to UAB. They lost a ton of guys to injury last year. They returned a lot of players this year too. They had a base to build on.
 

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What are you calling a portal rebuild?

Guess thats the first definition we need to figure out. Everyone adds from the portal. But the program wasnt completely overhauled by the portal. Neither was Arizona's. They have some of their guys in place and built into the system..its not entirely built out of the portal.

We havent had 2 years to rebuild. Is the point. You cant blame Lebby for Arnett issues.
we have not added a defensive player in two years through the portal, cut the BS. Arkansas has a new rb, qb, receiver, de, lb, safety three O line starters. They have improved markedly , we are horrible. What are you talking about
 

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we have not added a defensive player in two years through the portal, cut the BS. Arkansas has a new rb, qb, receiver, de, lb, safety three O line starters. They have improved markedly , we are horrible. What are you talking about
Arkansas has 3 OL
QB
RB
MLB
2 secondary players

starting for them.... per their depth chart.

Again they have 8 starters out of the portal. We have 10. We also have more on our 2 deep.
 

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The problem is expectations. The fan’s expectations are a long ways above what we’ve seen so far. Lebby should have said we are building a program. It will take time. We are deficient in most areas. This year is going to be about getting the first building blocks experience. If he’d said something near that he wouldn’t have as much heat and we would say it’s worse than we thought but I had no expectations of winning anything anyway.
 

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Arkansas has 3 OL
QB
RB
MLB
2 secondary players

starting for them.... per their depth chart.

Again they have 8 starters out of the portal. We have 10. We also have more on our 2 deep.
Yes we have absolute busts everywhere. Who could not start for Milsapps. They have sec starters and some future nfl players. See the difference
 

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we have not added a defensive player in two years through the portal, cut the BS. Arkansas has a new rb, qb, receiver, de, lb, safety three O line starters. They have improved markedly , we are horrible. What are you talking about
We also have 2 starters on D out of hte portal.. and 6-7 more

I mean Im agreeing we should be way better...... but arkansas didnt add more out of the portal than we did. And neither Arkansas nor Arizona were 1 year portal rebuilds.
 

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Yes we have absolute busts everywhere. Who could not start for Milsapps. They have sec starters and some future nfl players. See the difference
Again im not arguing that. i agree the talent on the field sucks. But it doesnt mean arkansas was rebuilt out of the portal. We have more guys on our 2 deep than does arkansas out of the portal.

Thats why its so difficult to built out of the portal.. in 1 season.
 

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We also have 2 starters on D out of hte portal.. and 6-7 more

I mean Im agreeing we should be way better...... but arkansas didnt add more out of the portal than we did. And neither Arkansas nor Arizona were 1 year portal rebuilds.
arkansas didn’t do more out of the portal than we did ? Are you high ?
 

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arkansas didn’t do more out of the portal than we did ? Are you high ?
Again im not sure we are discussing the same thing. Sure arkansas filled their holes much better than we did out of the portal. But they have the advantage of being on year 5 and knowing EXACTLY what they need out of the portal.

That said they ONLY have 8 starters in the portal.... we have 10. We have more portal players on our two deep. So we did hit the portal harder, we just didnt land what we needed. Which is why rebuilding out of the portal in 1 season is so difficult.

Arkansas also had a much more talented roster than we did to add those portal players into.

I agree, i want more and better. And saturday was unacceptable. But a 1 year portal rebuild doesnt happen. You claim arkansas and arizona are and were.. and they werent.... colorado tried it, didnt work well..

again a true year 1 portal rebuild, whose done it and been successful?
 

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Arkansas did a better job of evaluating players out of the portal but what they did isn’t really a rebuild either.
They improved a tremendous amount by bring in good players in the portal, their offense is definitely a rebuild. They supplemented their D at De, lb and safety. They are a heck of a lot better.
 

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They improved a tremendous amount by bring in good players in the portal, their offense is definitely a rebuild. They supplemented their D at De, lb and safety. They are a heck of a lot better.
Ok whatever you say. We will see how it plays out.

Like arguing with a brick wall….