Portal recruiting is going to be a disaster this offseason.
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This may be true, but comparing Skeens to 99% of college football players isn't comparable in anyway.
Again, where are you getting the info on how much we offered and how much he got from LSU?
I’m trying to figure that out too. Having plenty of money for NIL in the era of free agency and not being able to sign players, does not add up. Simplest explanation would be we have some nil money shortages.
of course there are cases where the kid doesn’t like the campus, wants to play for a playoff team etc..but that’s not the majority. Otherwise all these bad teams wouldn’t be turning over their roster in one season. In fact I haven’t heard of a P4 team not being able to get players if they have money to spend.
Hmmm.... Tucson and Tempe vs. Starkville. Yeah I can see how that would be a tough decision all things being equal. Hell, Fayetteville, vs. Starkville. Even Nashville vs Starkville! Come on! If a 20 year old is offered $150000 to go to Nashville or a $200000 to go to Starkville, you have to know what they are choosing. Same with Fayetteville, Auburn, Columbia, Lexington, Baton Rouge, Columbia Mo., Baton Rouge, College Station, Knoxville, Austin, Etc....
do you really believe nobody in the portal is willing to be paid top dollar to come play here ? How did we ever sign players in the past ?
We have less talent than a lot of schools that have almost zero NIL.
You have made this statement multiple times. Spill the beans if you have factual knowledge. And if so which coaches can't recruit ?? Turner ? You said they don't call , follow up, etc
They're taking the extra $50k, there's no way you're this dumb.
Well no doubt there are more factors at play than simply money. Playing time and chances to make the next level are big. Winning and TV exposure. Plus no doubt some kids have geographical preferences. Buuuut....still money is the biggest draw. If we are offering 50k more and losing a kid to Arkansas there is a big problem
That's not happening. We just have a bunch of fans who hate our program and want us to fail. No one on this boards know the particulars of any deals nor the NIL war chest of any program.
My problem isn’t so much with our NIL bankroll as it with the people in charge of closing the deals. We saw multiple defensive portal recruits visit Starkville and commit elsewhere a day later. We were left with a bunch of P4 players who couldn’t get on the field in lesser conferences. And the kids we were on initially ended up at places like Kansas and Purdue and Pitt.
To me it starts and ends with the coaching staff. And frankly, recruiting has gotten worse. Jumping on a mid-level CUSA cornerback seems like a desperate move when the portal hasn’t even opened for the vast majority of players.
What kid ever wants to go to Fayette Nam ? But all this bitchin and finger pointing is not gonna help a damn thing. It's all up to Lebby and his coaches to guide us out of the wilderness. Therefore I will simply say " God help us" cause I think we are gonna be taking the scenic route
I doubt we’re throwing much money at it either. Next year is a lost cause. Nobody good is going to want to play for these defensive coaches if they have other options.
Where did the very good RB for Arizona State play last year? Was it Sacramento State???
This staff is clueless.
We will just be riding out the cycle until salmon and keenum are gone.
Did you notice Toledo had better talent than State? State best Eastern Kentucky, an FCS team, and UMass who got pummeled by every SEC team they played. In 2 years, 2 different coordinators were hired to replace the only Former Sitting HC State has hired in over 60 years and proceeded to completely tear the program to the ground. Go back and check the last time State only won 2 games in a season and went 0-8 in the SEC. Most of y'all were in diapers or still a twinkle in your dad's eye. Go back to the last time State hired a Sitting HC before Leach. Most of your parents were in diapers or kindergarten!
I would suggest hiring a recruiting hypnotist to complement our recruiting strategy.
I have no idea if it is or is not. Just taking this opportunity to remind everyone we have a fundraiser where 10% of money raised goes to NIL. And it appears we have may have lost a camera last night to a lightning strike so that will be an unexpected expense, if so.
All who are complaining don’t have a clue how the portal works. Hell most on here would have wanted to fire Fisch and Dillingham after a 1-11 and 3-9 first year and esp after their haul in the portal. Guess what neither had some high ranked portal haul after that first year
Another thing who all in here b!!tching are giving money to BI/SEF???
Another thing who all in here b!!tching are giving money to BI/SEF???
1) It's not. At least, not anywhere other than message boards and/or beat writer articles. There have been 3-4 examples from the last couple years where we were rumored to have offered more than the other team, and as usual, people are taking the exceptions to paint the picture that it's an MSU pandemic
2) Can anyone find how much NIL Paul Skenes got at LSU? Maybe it's out there, but I just spent 5 minutes googling, and about the only thing I could find was his On3 "value" and an article where he donated $2k to a charity. My point is that if NIL still isn't public knowledge, and there are zero rules when it comes to reporting it, how in the world can anyone definitively know how our offer compares to another? Then, even if someone did somehow have inside knowledge, would it be possible that a competitor actually ups their offer after a kid received one from us?
I've got no problem with the argument that our coaches' inability to recruit is part of the problem. It's just that if they somehow suck at this area of their job too, either our NIL has to be enough to overcome that or else we need some new coaches, and apparently we're not going to rectify either situation in the offseason
I just don't understand why our fans automatically believe anything negative about out program, then happy spread those rumors that have no basis in reality.
I just don't understand? Whatever you read on the internet/social media, you should automatically be skeptical. If the information is important to you then attempt to verify via different credible sources. Don't take something negative and and repost it as if it is true.
Many long years of experience being a Mississippi State fan.
I mean would you want to play for team that went 2-10 and got smacked by Toledo and didn't have a prayer in any sec and play for guys you never heard of? I want to win and get drafted if I'm a recruit. If I'm a young defensive recruit I'm not going to play for that defensive staff. Not sure I would have faith in Lebby as a parent either that I would entrust my son with him to develop him. I had hoped for Lebby but we have shown zero improvement this season. Offense averaging a bout 20 defensively giving up 40 plus a game. This is what happens when you hire inexperienced staff all around. On top of just doing that last year
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