I get it, I get it, but there should be some consideration given to returning champs, especially undefeated (prior to injury defaults) 3x champs.
Pre-bracket release/post bracket release NCAA seed discussion
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Aaron Brooks has the #1 seed, and it's warranted. (Trent Hidlay's fans may feel otherwise, since he's 24-0 on the season.)
R1 he'll face the winner of the pigtail match between #32 John Crawford (F&M) & #33 seed Evan Bates (NW). Brooks should have no trouble with either one. In R2, he'll face the winner of the #16 Luke Stout (Princeton) - #17 Joseph Novak (Wyoming) R1 match. Again, AB should roll in this match.
Friday, he's likely to face #8 seed Stephen Buchanan (Okla), or #9 seed Stephen Little (Little Rock). I'm surprised Buchanan slipped to #8, and Little has been a good story this season (each has 2 losses on the season). AB should win, but these guys are talented. In the semis, AB is likely to face #4 seed former PSUer Michael Beard. (#12 seed Rocky Elam (Mizzou) is an outside possibility.) AB should win this match, but Beard is tough.
I expect to see AB wrestling #2 seed Trent Hidlay (NC St.) on Saturday evening for the championship.
Aaron Brooks has the #1 seed, and it's warranted. (Trent Hidlay's fans may feel otherwise, since he's 24-0 on the season.)
R1 he'll face the winner of the pigtail match between #32 John Crawford (F&M) & #33 seed Evan Bates (NW). Brooks should have no trouble with either one. In R2, he'll face the winner of the #16 Luke Stout (Princeton) - #17 Joseph Novak (Wyoming) R1 match. Again, AB should roll in this match.
Friday, he's likely to face #8 seed Stephen Buchanan (Okla), or #9 seed Stephen Little (Little Rock). I'm surprised Buchanan slipped to #8, and Little has been a good story this season (each has 2 losses on the season). AB should win, but these guys are talented. In the semis, AB is likely to face #4 seed former PSUer Michael Beard. (#12 seed Rocky Elam (Mizzou) is an outside possibility.) AB should win this match, but Beard is tough.
I expect to see AB wrestling #2 seed Trent Hidlay (NC St.) on Saturday evening for the championship.
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Greg Kerkvliet is the #1 seed.
In R1, he'll face the winger of the piglet match between #32 seed Nick Wilham (Indy) - #33 seed Jordan Greer (Ohio U). Kerk should win that easily. In R2, he'll face the winner of the #16 seed Cory Day (Binghamton) - #17 seed Grady Griess (Navy) R1 match. Kerk should win that match without much difficulty.
On Friday in the quarters, Kerk is likely to face either #8 seed Owen Trephan (NC St.) or #9 seed Nick Feldman (tOSU). Kerk should win pretty easily. In the semis Friday night, Kerk is likely to face #r Cohlton Schultz (ASU). Kerk should win that.
Saturday evening in the final, I expect Kerk to face either #2 seed Yonger Bastida (Iowa St.) or #3 seed Wyatt Hendrickson (Air Force). Kerk would be favored, but Bastida could present a challenge. (Perhaps Hendrickson would as well, though Kerk handled him pretty easily in the NWCA preseason match.)
Greg Kerkvliet is the #1 seed.
In R1, he'll face the winger of the piglet match between #32 seed Nick Wilham (Indy) - #33 seed Jordan Greer (Ohio U). Kerk should win that easily. In R2, he'll face the winner of the #16 seed Cory Day (Binghamton) - #17 seed Grady Griess (Navy) R1 match. Kerk should win that match without much difficulty.
On Friday in the quarters, Kerk is likely to face either #8 seed Owen Trephan (NC St.) or #9 seed Nick Feldman (tOSU). Kerk should win pretty easily. In the semis Friday night, Kerk is likely to face #r Cohlton Schultz (ASU). Kerk should win that.
Saturday evening in the final, I expect Kerk to face either #2 seed Yonger Bastida (Iowa St.) or #3 seed Wyatt Hendrickson (Air Force). Kerk would be favored, but Bastida could present a challenge. (Perhaps Hendrickson would as well, though Kerk handled him pretty easily in the NWCA preseason match.)
Can someone build a potential team score out of Tom's assessments? Not tonight, of course - it's 11:30 pm for us East Coast folks. TIA!
He has beat 3 or 4 top ten wrestlers in the past month. Struggled early in season.
I am just kinding. You put way to much time into this forum already.
He has a crazy win over Ryan Jack who then beat him in the ACC championship and two wins of McNeil, so yes he has improved over the season. He still can't score and has almost no offense and may only get one takedown against Beau if they wrestled 5 matches.
Just more incentive for Carter to do well. Meeting Carter several times and getting to know him he will be more than focused,
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Just ignore him at this point. He provides nothing and doesn't know what he's talking about or how to keep quiet.
Starocci seeding stunner and 3 more Penn State wrestling thoughts on the Lions' NCAA seeds
Penn State wrestling learned where all 10 of its wrestlers will be seeded at the 2024 NCAA Tournament. Here are our bracket takeaways.
Thanks, Tom! Love that view but hope Penn State's actual score is much higher.
And I too am amazed at projection for I0wa - way too high, I hope!
No bonus points are included. I read that just last year 20% of matches were upsets. This is a decent talking point, and you can get an idea of a team like Penn State which is far ahead of everyone else, but teams 3-9 are only 8.5 points apart. I assume that's statistically negligible.
Some thoughts.
Based on projected points I am surprised that big teams are ranked so low. Amazing.
174 bracket, based on Twitter post rant, above looks right except of course star ranked 9th. 2 and 3 seed are in bottom bracket and as always in any playoff it is not based on last year.
shocked at Davis rank. Helps him advance into later rounds a little easier. He could do it. He has learned from earlier this year from one knee Ayala and getting caught and from pushing to hard forward in neutral position.
Nagao kasak Mitchel and truax are all sleepers and you never know with these 4 what could happen. I bet two are In finals and 1 wins it.
lewan. Why is that guy always in Haines bracket. Hate the way he wrestles but they will meet again and Levi has to get points early and not let it come down to a coin flip. That will force Lewan “stall by advance” to shoot.
I was surprised the way beau wrestled in finals. I hope he gets back on his horse in later rounds and is more assertive.
kerk winning it all would be awesome. Brooks and star getting 4 and joining other 5 greats would be great for this current dynasty of Penn staters to get on that list!
Based on projected points I am surprised that big teams are ranked so low. Amazing.
174 bracket, based on Twitter post rant, above looks right except of course star ranked 9th. 2 and 3 seed are in bottom bracket and as always in any playoff it is not based on last year.
shocked at Davis rank. Helps him advance into later rounds a little easier. He could do it. He has learned from earlier this year from one knee Ayala and getting caught and from pushing to hard forward in neutral position.
Nagao kasak Mitchel and truax are all sleepers and you never know with these 4 what could happen. I bet two are In finals and 1 wins it.
lewan. Why is that guy always in Haines bracket. Hate the way he wrestles but they will meet again and Levi has to get points early and not let it come down to a coin flip. That will force Lewan “stall by advance” to shoot.
I was surprised the way beau wrestled in finals. I hope he gets back on his horse in later rounds and is more assertive.
kerk winning it all would be awesome. Brooks and star getting 4 and joining other 5 greats would be great for this current dynasty of Penn staters to get on that list!
Tom, you’re starting to show your age. You of all people should know the stamina benefits of eating your Quaker Oats.
I am sure Carter is looking forward to avenging his loss to Sparks at the B1G tournament! I'm not sure the same game plan is going to work for Sparks this time.
There is pain and then there something beyond pain and after watching his interview he did this week I am expecting whatever is beyond pain to be what each of his opponents feel. To quote Carter, "I like beating guys up." There is kicking a hornets nest and then there is pissing off Carter Starocci. I'd rather kick a hornets nest.
Why? They are seeding for this year’s tournament, not giving out a lifetime achievement award.
I think the B1G tournament was a reminder for Beau what happens when he shuts down his offense for an entire match. Leading up to the B1G tournament he was getting to his offense (leg attacks) early. And then he would shut it all down, but at least he was getting to his attacks in the first period and they were explosive. In the B1G tournament he went back to his front headlock offense, which isn't really offense. I really don't understand Beau and why he likes to work out of that front headlock exclusively in matches when he has explosive leg attacks.
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The 174 bracket, overall, may be the worst seeded bracket in the past 5 years. One half of the bracket has 3 former champs while the other half has 1 All American. I'm not even talking about C-star's 9 seed.
How is mesenbrink a sleeper? He is undefeated and second seed. Every wrestling fan in America knows who he is.
IMO Kasak will beat Arrington if they both get that far.
Parco is a bigger hurdle in the quarters. And Arrington gets Gomez in the quarters.
Shapiro gets Chittum in R2. If he wrestles like he did against Brignola, he's in danger of losing.
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