PSU Recruiting Thread

Annieat285

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Take a look at the study. They used micro doses compared to what is used in the psychiatric treatment of bipolar disorder. For humans, that means about 3-5 mg. daily versus the 600-1200 mg. used for bipolar disorder.
I read the study and nowhere does it say that you will not receive any side effects of the medication while microdosing (it's not as if lithium turns into orange juice when you take it in lower dosages, It's still Lithium). The study states (and other studies/common sense agree) that you are less likely to have psoriasis on lower doses of Lithium. I unequivocally believe that Lithium is an incredible drug, but you are not acting in good faith when you insist that anyone who tries it will not have side effects (especially since some of the side effects of Lithium are really really bad). It should also be noted that you might get psoriasis yourself as psoriasis does not instantly appear when you take Lithium. Instead it can take a lot of time (it took me about two years before I started getting it) for psoriasis to start popping up.

As with any medication you should consult your doctor before using, especially if you're planning to grab medication over the counter that they (your doctor) aren't intimately familiar with. Should you experience any side effects you should immediately contact your doctor, as well.
 
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I read the study and nowhere does it say that you will not receive any side effects of the medication while microdosing (it's not as if lithium turns into orange juice when you take it in lower dosages, It's still Lithium). The study states (and other studies/common sense agree) that you are less likely to have psoriasis on lower doses of Lithium. I unequivocally believe that Lithium is an incredible drug, but you are not acting in good faith when you insist that anyone who tries it will not have side effects (especially since some of the side effects of Lithium are really really bad). It should also be noted that you might get psoriasis yourself as psoriasis does not instantly appear when you take Lithium. Instead it can take a lot of time (it took me about two years before I started getting it) for psoriasis to start popping up.

As with any medication you should consult your doctor before using, especially if you're planning to grab medication over the counter that they (your doctor) aren't intimately familiar with. Should you experience any side effects you should immediately contact your doctor, as well.
Lithium is not a drug, but a trace mineral found naturally in the human body. It plays a role in the regulation of various neurotransmitters. Most people get .6-3mg. from food sources (grains, vegetables, fruits, nuts, and spices) and tap water depending on the richness of lithium in their soil and water. The provocative series of studies/experiments described in the article suggests that the deleterious effects of lithium deficiency are far worse than the unlikely side effects of taking a dose similar to normal consumption from food/water.
 
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wrestlingfan22

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Ive seen rumors that Bassett and Miller will be in Blacksburg this weekend which surprises me, I feel like Whiteout would be the weekend they visit PSU
 

mjmirv

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Ive seen rumors that Bassett and Miller will be in Blacksburg this weekend which surprises me, I feel like Whiteout would be the weekend they visit PSU
I would have to think at some point Cael is getting sick of this nonsense. Penn State is such an obvious choice for those two that at some point you just gotta throw your hands up in the air and say it’s time to move on.
 
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BaccaFarmer

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Ive seen rumors that Bassett and Miller will be in Blacksburg this weekend which surprises me, I feel like Whiteout would be the weekend they visit PSU
VT’s athletic program is a bit of a hot mess right now. I’ve been over there twice this FB season and it’s morgue like. At least their horrid football team will be away.
 

dicemen99

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I would have to think at some point Cael is getting sick of this nonsense. Penn State is such an obvious choice for those two that at some point you just gotta throw your hands up in the air and say it’s time to move on.
I don't think Cael is getting sick about anything. Only some fans.

If the Bassett want to come to PSU, pretty sure they know what's on the table.. It's unlikely that the non-wrestling part of it is any where near what others who are recruiting them very hard are offering.

How hard is this for people to understand when neither PSU, OK State, nor Iowa are pushing for him? It's been pretty obvious for a while now.
 

donboy6499

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I would have to think at some point Cael is getting sick of this nonsense. Penn State is such an obvious choice for those two that at some point you just gotta throw your hands up in the air and say it’s time to move on.
At some point, not committing (heck not knocking the door in) when you’re in their shoes becomes a personality trait in and of itself. Not a good one.
 
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JA1339

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I don't think Cael is getting sick about anything. Only some fans.

If the Bassett want to come to PSU, pretty sure they know what's on the table.. It's unlikely that the non-wrestling part of it is any where near what others who are recruiting them very hard are offering.

How hard is this for people to understand when neither PSU, OK State, nor Iowa are pushing for him? It's been pretty obvious for a while now.
So if you take all the teams that were on Bo’s list ( before he started eliminating 1 a week), and you remove the teams that no longer have any strong interest… then it sounds like we’re down to a handful of teams at best
 

El_Jefe

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Is Rutgers back in the fold? Have to imagine they would do everything they could with the off the mat offerings, and Bo could be the face of that program
Miller's top 6: PSU, Meatchicken, OKST, Nebraska, anOSU, VT.

This is a cut-down from his original top schools list.
 

El_Jefe

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So if you take all the teams that were on Bo’s list ( before he started eliminating 1 a week), and you remove the teams that no longer have any strong interest… then it sounds like we’re down to a handful of teams at best
Bassett's original cut-down is irrelevant. Nebraska was not among his finalists when he committed to Iowa, yet he added them and has visited Lincoln since firing Iowa.
 
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How hard is this for people to understand when neither PSU, OK State, nor Iowa are pushing for him? It's been pretty obvious for a while now.
I don't know that anything is obvious any longer on this front.

Bo has enjoyed now 2 exceedingly long recruitment cycles. Sure Nebby is new to the party, but even so, a visit and the offer should be well in hand and easy to navigate.

If anything I suspect the PSU offer has been clear and consistent since the beginning, and I tend to doubt much room for additional and meaningful negotiation remains.

As for sheer $$$, it seems Bo left that opportunity well in the rear view mirror, and program's hands are now somewhat tied in that respect. I never believed claims of, what was the max, $5 Mil??? Absurd, whether true or not.

To each his own. For me, it's 'Miller' time literally and figuratively!!!
 
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Headlock

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I think that Dad is driving the bus for all three wrestlers and believes he can't be obvious about a school and get all that he wants. Appearing to be "hard to get" or only being "somewhat interested" will bring better offers. On the other hand, PSU has made an offer and will not succumb to the "hold out" approach. Unfortunately, Dad most likely believes that his best interests and his kids' best interests are one and the same.
 

RockySmith

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You would have thought after all the work Bo did for the year he whittled all the D1 programs down to Iowa- all the recruiting trips, talking with coaches, his family and other wrestlers, he would have had a #2 school, and he could have made an announcement in a week or two. What new information is he learning on his trips to Nebby and VT? Tired of the drama.
 
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McScoreley

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You would have thought after all the work Bo did for the year he whittled all the D1 programs down to Iowa- all the recruiting trips, talking with coaches, his family and other wrestlers, he would have had a #2 school, and he could have made an announcement in a week or two. What new information is he learning on his trips to Nebby and VT? Tired of the drama.
His 2/3 are no longer options for him.
 
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Definitely frustrating and viewed as over the top by many of us fans.

That said, Cael is the iltimate Zen master, and it's one of the most even keeled, consistent people anywhere.

If I can be so forward, I have a number of assumptions w.r.t. where Cael leans:

1). He wants Bo and Miller.
2). He doesn't take on external pressure or a unreasonable urgency when it comes to recruiting.
3). The current PSU offer is very close to what was originally offered last spring, we can't be manipulated.
4). At the top of Cael's list are; (i) getting kids who 'really' want to be here, and (ii) love wrestling
5). Bo can take as much time as he needs.

As for #4, I am skeptical of (i), while convinced of (ii).
 

El_Jefe

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You would have thought after all the work Bo did for the year he whittled all the D1 programs down to Iowa- all the recruiting trips, talking with coaches, his family and other wrestlers, he would have had a #2 school, and he could have made an announcement in a week or two. What new information is he learning on his trips to Nebby and VT? Tired of the drama.
The only drama is people complaining on message boards, and maybe wrestling industry types like Flo.

It's not coming from the Miller/Bassett camp. Ever since they fired Iowa, their public presence has been no more than countless other recruits, and less than some.

Regarding Bassett, he gets a complete recruiting do-over, piggy backing on Miller's official visits. He'd be an idiot to not do that.
 

dicemen99

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Definitely frustrating and viewed as over the top by many of us fans.

That said, Cael is the iltimate Zen master, and it's one of the most even keeled, consistent people anywhere.

If I can be so forward, I have a number of assumptions w.r.t. where Cael leans:

1). He wants Bo and Miller.
2). He doesn't take on external pressure or a unreasonable urgency when it comes to recruiting.
3). The current PSU offer is very close to what was originally offered last spring, we can't be manipulated.
4). At the top of Cael's list are; (i) getting kids who 'really' want to be here, and (ii) love wrestling
5). Bo can take as much time as he needs.

As for #4, I am skeptical of (i), while convinced of (ii).
LOL. You know what they say about assumptions, but you are the only one involved in this assuming, I'm not about to call Cael an a$$.

You are the Zach Seyko of this message board.
 

nerfstate

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Definitely frustrating and viewed as over the top by many of us fans.

That said, Cael is the iltimate Zen master, and it's one of the most even keeled, consistent people anywhere.

If I can be so forward, I have a number of assumptions w.r.t. where Cael leans:

1). He wants Bo and Miller.
2). He doesn't take on external pressure or a unreasonable urgency when it comes to recruiting.
3). The current PSU offer is very close to what was originally offered last spring, we can't be manipulated.
4). At the top of Cael's list are; (i) getting kids who 'really' want to be here, and (ii) love wrestling
5). Bo can take as much time as he needs.

As for #4, I am skeptical of (i), while convinced of (ii).
It sounds like #3 may be false. As well-appointed as the PSU juggernaut is, I suspect funds that had been offered to Bo have since been committed elsewhere.
 

El_Jefe

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LOL. You know what they say about assumptions, but you are the only one involved in this assuming, I'm not about to call Cael an a$$.

You are the Zach Seyko of this message board.

 

J.E.B

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Cael doesn’t chase guys… they chase him. This bunch is so confused it seems. Problem is it’s gotten old and the longer it goes it gets even older. Bo needs to just do what’s so obvious. Cael isn’t strung along. Probably didn’t even invite them for the white out. Why waste the time?
 
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Cheat code

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My $.02…

Bo is extremely close to his father; unusually close. Some might say oddly dependent on being in his presence. If Bo is not around his father for a couple of minutes at a tournament, he is looking around and trying to find him to quickly get back in his orbit. For this reason, I think Bo chooses PSU. It’s a perfect fit weight-wise, PSU is a perfect fit to help him reach his goals in college and internationally, AND he’ll be able to train at NLWC during his senior season. And he’s close to home.

Melvin seems to be the big prize everyone wants. PSU is not as good of fit for Melvin due to Duke, James, Henkel, Cunningham, et al. For that reason, I think MM heads to Stillwater to reunite with Jax and be mentored by DT.

Keegan is a good recruit right now but not at the same level as Bo and Melvin. I think he’ll end up wherever he finds the best fit, regardless of where his brothers are.

If Bo doesn’t have a great first year at PSU- but I think he will- then he heads to Okie State to get the band back together. If that happens, then I think the whole fam damnily moves to Stillwater for Keegan’s senior year.

Regardless of where they end up- whether together or separate- I think all three will have very successful college careers.
 
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BeerLion

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I don't know that anything is obvious any longer on this front.

Bo has enjoyed now 2 exceedingly long recruitment cycles. Sure Nebby is new to the party, but even so, a visit and the offer should be well in hand and easy to navigate.

If anything I suspect the PSU offer has been clear and consistent since the beginning, and I tend to doubt much room for additional and meaningful negotiation remains.

As for sheer $$$, it seems Bo left that opportunity well in the rear view mirror, and program's hands are now somewhat tied in that respect. I never believed claims of, what was the max, $5 Mil??? Absurd, whether true or not.

To each his own. For me, it's 'Miller' time literally and figuratively!!!
I love living the High Life!
 

Atrain83

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Will be glad when this situation is resolved. Don’t think they’ll end up at PSU. Bo probably fits the best lineup wise and Melvin’s good enough to force his way in but don’t think it will hurt if they go elsewhere.

Focused on that 2027 class, we’re due for some good recruiting news.