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Does this mean we get Eric Wolford a 3rd time? I mean he is an amazing Oline coach. Or so I've heard.
 

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Shocking seeing Dabo’s name. Truth is I think even bama will have trouble keeping up with the money rich schools. There are definitely cracks in the armor.
 

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Dabo’s doesn’t make any sense to me. He’s getting paid comparably where he is. At Alabama the expectation is contend for a title every single year.
Agree, plus the biggest factor, Bama will not hire a redneck/renegade coach, be it Dabo or anybody else. And I think that includes Kiffin
 

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I feel sure Dabo will be on the list along with Kiffin, Sark and maybe Smart.
Dabo is a redneck, Kiffin is a renegade, Smart wont leave his alma mater and he is already on top of the world. I don't know much about Sark,
 
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I don't think Kiffen or Dabo will even look at it. Their egos are too big to be Saban's replacement. Now, after the replacement, all bets are off. If DeBoer's name is being thrown around, I think its a push. Seems he is a West Coast guy. I guess I could see Frankin or Norvell. This is going to be interesting to watch.
I think it's mutual, Bama won't look at Kiffen or Dabo either.
 

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I thought it was a little odd when they hired Riley and paid him $2M/yr. Might be starting to make sense now??
 

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Why would anyone consider the NC State coach. He's been mediocre at best.
I think he makes the most of what he has to work with. From time to time North Carolina State can be solid on defense. Since 2015 he is only coach (with the exception of Saban) to beat clemson multiple times.
 

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At Clemson, the expectation is to contend for a title every single year.
No, it’s not, not the majority of the fans. Yes you have a few out there who are delusional thinking they should be contenders every single year. Most of them believe Clemson should contend for or play for the conference title every year and contend every few years for the national title
 

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No, it’s not, not the majority of the fans. Yes you have a few out there who are delusional thinking they should be contenders every single year. Most of them believe Clemson should contend for or play for the conference title every year and contend every few years for the national title
I think most of their fans expect them to win a crappy ACC most years and put them in position to content for NCs.
 

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A lot of smoke out there about Lanning being in Tusc, and seeming like it’s going to be him. I’d much rather have Kiffin than Lanning. But if they didn’t even sniff Dabo it’s a massive mistake. Lanning has done fine at OR, but he hasn’t beaten a many good teams either.
 

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A lot of smoke out there about Lanning being in Tusc, and seeming like it’s going to be him. I’d much rather have Kiffin than Lanning. But if they didn’t even sniff Dabo it’s a massive mistake. Lanning has done fine at OR, but he hasn’t beaten a many good teams either.

Sounds like the job is probably Lanning's if he wants it. He fits the bill in some respects...SEC ties, defensive-minded. Short resume as a HC, though. Maybe the Bama folks are looking for a cheaper option since there are no guarantees. They'd have had to pay up big time to get Dabo, if he even wanted the job. Lanning, with his inexperience, will come significantly cheaper. If it doesn't work out, you're not out as much money.

Not terribly surprised Lane isn't being rumored much. Bama is far too buttoned up for a guy like Lane. He's just not a culture fit to the head man there.
 
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Sounds like the job is probably Lanning's if he wants it. He fits the bill in some respects...SEC ties, defensive-minded. Short resume as a HC, though. Maybe the Bama folks are looking for a cheaper option since there are no guarantees. They'd have had to pay up big time to get Dabo, if he even wanted the job. Lanning, with his inexperience, will come significantly cheaper. If it doesn't work out, you're not out as much money.

Not terribly surprised Lane isn't being rumored much. Bama is far too buttoned up for a guy like Lane. He's just not a culture fit to the head man there.
I did see a quote from Saban on Lanning. Talked about how he loved to bring young guys into the program, mentor them, then send them out to other smaller programs to prove themselves. And his hope was that he would get to hire them for bigger roles later. He was pissed that Kirby hired Lanning a couple of days before he was going to do it.
 
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Reported that they want to have replacement hired in 72 hours. They don't mess around.

It's like a Fortune 500 company compared to how some "other schools" operate.
 
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Reported that they want to have replacement hired in 72 hours. They don't mess around.

It's like a Fortune 500 company compared to how some "other schools" operate.
If it does happen in 72 hours, then this had to be planned well in advance.
 

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If it does happen in 72 hours, then this had to be planned well in advance.

Maybe. Saban is 72, though, so I'm sure the AD has been prepared for the possibility every off-season for a while now.

It's not a mickey mouse organization. They take football dead serious there. You can be certain the AD had his list of top 3 candidates ready to go and probably already had preliminary discussions and tentative approval on what they could offer each candidate in addition to their buyout. There was none of this hiring a firm and doing a national search nonsense and fumbling around with it like we would do. Bama knows who they are and they know who they want.

Besides, Bama is at the top of the pyramid in terms of college football jobs. It's not like a sales pitch is needed to really woo someone to come there.

Two seconds after Saban told the AD, he was probably on the phone for the first candidate on the list.
 

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Maybe. Saban is 72, though, so I'm sure the AD has been prepared for the possibility every off-season for a while now.

It's not a mickey mouse organization. They take football dead serious there. You can be certain the AD had his list of top 3 candidates ready to go and probably already had preliminary discussions and tentative approval on what they could offer each candidate in addition to their buyout. There was none of this hiring a firm and doing a national search nonsense and fumbling around with it like we would do. Bama knows who they are and they know who they want.

Besides, Bama is at the top of the pyramid in terms of college football jobs. It's not like a sales pitch is needed to really woo someone to come there.

Two seconds after Saban told the AD, he was probably on the phone for the first candidate on the list.
Agreed, 72 hours is certainly enough time for an announcement. Board was probably on standby for approval at any time. With today’s rules you can’t linger. They could have a mass exodus. Roster retention is priority #1. Players need to know who will be moving in.
 
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Saw that Bama fans were outside Bryant-Denny chanting "anyone but Dabo" though it was a small group and seemed pretty staged. Supposedly stemmed from lingering resentment over the 2 titles lost to Clemson.

Don't think he's a culture fit either, though for different reasons than Lane. The Clemson culture has built around Dabo's personality. Bama's built up around Saban. Just don't think you fit Dabo's personality in there.
 
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Agreed, 72 hours is certainly enough time for an announcement. Board was probably on standby for approval at any time. With today’s rules you can’t linger. They could have a mass exodus. Roster retention is priority #1. Players need to know who will be moving in.

Good point on the transfers. The vultures are circling for Bama's players so it could be disastrous to their roster to have this thing drag on.
 

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I think he makes the most of what he has to work with. From time to time North Carolina State can be solid on defense. Since 2015 he is only coach (with the exception of Saban) to beat clemson multiple times.
I can't see it. That's not being dismissive, I just can't see it.
 

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Sounds like the job is probably Lanning's if he wants it. He fits the bill in some respects...SEC ties, defensive-minded. Short resume as a HC, though. Maybe the Bama folks are looking for a cheaper option since there are no guarantees. They'd have had to pay up big time to get Dabo, if he even wanted the job. Lanning, with his inexperience, will come significantly cheaper. If it doesn't work out, you're not out as much money.

Not terribly surprised Lane isn't being rumored much. Bama is far too buttoned up for a guy like Lane. He's just not a culture fit to the head man there.
Lanning would be good; the guy from Washington would be good. In Lanning's case, the buyout is high.
 

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Lanning would be good; the guy from Washington would be good. In Lanning's case, the buyout is high.

Yeah, Lanning would be a good hire. Bama fans will just have to adjust expectations for what "good" means. They have known nothing but contending for titles for much of the last 15 years.

That's just not going to happen again, most likely. Bama was quite average for a good while before Saban arrived.

Can Bama fans adapt to just being a very good football team and not elite every single season?
 

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Yeah, Lanning would be a good hire. Bama fans will just have to adjust expectations for what "good" means. They have known nothing but contending for titles for much of the last 15 years.

That's just not going to happen again, most likely. Bama was quite average for a good while before Saban arrived.

Can Bama fans adapt to just being a very good football team and not elite every single season?
They already had to adjust to it between Bryant and Stallings, and again in the horrible interregnum between Stallings and Saban. Saban wasn't Saban until he became Saban. LSU didn't do that for him. He came to Bama just after failing in the NFL. Lanning could become LANNING, possibly.
 

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They already had to adjust to it between Bryant and Stallings, and again in the horrible interregnum between Stallings and Saban. Saban wasn't Saban until he became Saban. LSU didn't do that for him. He came to Bama just after failing in the NFL. Lanning could become LANNING, possibly.

But that's been a loooooooong time now. It's been 40 years since they had a run like they've had under Saban. What I mean by "adjust" is can they accept a coach who isn't going to have them in contention every single season, even if they are getting 9 and 10 wins most years? History says "no".

History tells us the next coach won't be successful. Most coaches aren't anyway. Whoever the next coach is not just following a successful coach, he's following the best coach ever. They ran off Ray Perkins after a 10-win season and top 10 finish. Then they ran off Bill Curry after a 10-win season and top 10 finish.
 

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They already had to adjust to it between Bryant and Stallings, and again in the horrible interregnum between Stallings and Saban. Saban wasn't Saban until he became Saban. LSU didn't do that for him. He came to Bama just after failing in the NFL. Lanning could become LANNING, possibly.
While true, Bama didn't hire him until he had already won 2 SEC championships and a national championship. Prior to that he had turned Mich St into a top 10 team.

Lanning may prove to be great. But the fact is that he's beaten 2 teams that have finished the season ranked...both in 2022 (Utah and UCLA). Given their impatience with letting guys with little experience develop, I'd be shocked if Lanning was a higher target than Dabo.
 

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Goals...to show up to a job I just quit, and still have an employee meet me at the car to carry my bag. Got dang he ain't the King for nothin'!!