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Good point on the transfers. The vultures are circling for Bama's players so it could be disastrous to their roster to have this thing drag on.

I heard the 72 hour mark was told specifically to players. "Just sit tight for 72 hours before you jump ship", or something like that. Rumor, fwiw.
 
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I heard the 72 hour mark was told specifically to players. "Just sit tight for 72 hours before you jump ship", or something like that. Rumor, fwiw.

That would make sense.

I will say, the way Bama is handling their business with a coaching search is a stark contrast to how we have handled ours.

 

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That would make sense.

I will say, the way Bama is handling their business with a coaching search is a stark contrast to how we have handled ours.

Well, it's a little different when can just skim the cream right off the top. I can't imagine what the ADs messages looked like around 6PM last night.
 

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Well, it's a little different when can just skim the cream right off the top. I can't imagine what the ADs messages looked like around 6PM last night.

This is true. From the outside looking in on our last 2 hires, though, it seems like we never really have a plan. Bama's AD probably had his top 3 ready on speed dial at any given moment. I mean, they got their top guy on campus within 24 hours apparently.
 

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This is true. From the outside looking in on our last 2 hires, though, it seems like we never really have a plan. Bama's AD probably had his top 3 ready on speed dial at any given moment. I mean, they got their top guy on campus within 24 hours apparently.
We had a plan A (Herman) and B (Smart) for HBC. Had to settle for C. Herman got spooked about the shape of our program when we lost to El Cid. He was urged to sit tight, that UT would have an opportunity the next year. RT had Smart on the hook, then UGA made a big boy move and canned Richt. I don't fault RT at all for how we ended up with Muschamp. At that point he was just as big a risk as anyone else we could have gotten as a plan C option. Don't have that much of read on the Beamer hire. I don't remember there being much info on leading candidates and such until it was Beamer. Leads me to believe he had a plan, we may not have liked it, but a plan nonetheless.

Who knows if Lanning was there. There's some info on twitter that he's told his team he's not going anywhere, will be their coach in 2024, and was never in Tusc.
 

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We had a plan A (Herman) and B (Smart) for HBC. Had to settle for C. Herman got spooked about the shape of our program when we lost to El Cid. He was urged to sit tight, that UT would have an opportunity the next year. RT had Smart on the hook, then UGA made a big boy move and canned Richt. I don't fault RT at all for how we ended up with Muschamp. At that point he was just as big a risk as anyone else we could have gotten as a plan C option. Don't have that much of read on the Beamer hire. I don't remember there being much info on leading candidates and such until it was Beamer. Leads me to believe he had a plan, we may not have liked it, but a plan nonetheless.

Who knows if Lanning was there. There's some info on twitter that he's told his team he's not going anywhere, will be their coach in 2024, and was never in Tusc.
It's all speculative on Herman. Never have had any confirmation on any of that.

It was KVAL CBS in Eugene, Oregon that reported Lanning was in Tuscaloosa. Not sure what advantage there would be for an Oregon new station to falsely report Lanning was in Tuscaloosa.
 

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It's all speculative on Herman. Never have had any confirmation on any of that.

It was KVAL CBS in Eugene, Oregon that reported Lanning was in Tuscaloosa. Not sure what advantage there would be for an Oregon new station to falsely report Lanning was in Tuscaloosa.
What confirmation do you want? RT to come out and verify? He was a lock to USC until that Citadel game. It was reported by some insiders that he was advised that there would likely be bigger programs coming to call in the next year. Whether or not that happened is irrelevant. He was #1 and had a contract in his hand, and after the Citadel game he withdrew his name from consideration.
 

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How do you know this? I'm not saying it's not true but it's purely speculative. It makes a nice narrative that the Citadel loss cost us Herman.
We played El Cid on 11/21/15. News broke that he had withdrawn his name from consideration on 11/25/15. Dan Wolken at USAToday reported it as well. He specifically cited the Cid loss as the reason he tapped out. I remember Kornblut reporting that it was a done deal, they had an agreement in principle, and all that needed to happen was Herman sign the deal.


 

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We played El Cid on 11/21/15. News broke that he had withdrawn his name from consideration on 11/25/15. Dan Wolken at USAToday reported it as well. He specifically cited the Cid loss as the reason he tapped out. I remember Kornblut reporting that it was a done deal, they had an agreement in principle, and all that needed to happen was Herman sign the deal.



According to "sources"
 

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Of course they denied it. PR at it's best. USC didn't need that denial being out there, and Herman had to at least pretend like he was going to be at Houston long term.

lol, which goes to prove my point...you believe the "sources" that say what you want them to say.
 

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That info was all over the place...both locally and nationally.

Well, the only person who was willing to stick their name to anything was the Houston player who said Herman told them straight-up that he wasn't interested in the job here.
 

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Well, the only person who was willing to stick their name to anything was the Houston player who said Herman told them straight-up that he wasn't interested in the job here.
He also told the team right before their bowl game against Memphis that he wasn't leaving. 24 hours later he was announced as the HC of TX. Saban was also not going to be the next HC at Bama. lol
 

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He also told the team right before their bowl game against Memphis that he wasn't leaving. 24 hours later he was announced as the HC of TX. Saban was also not going to be the next HC at Bama. lol

He said he wasn't leaving for the LSU job, which is true.
 

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He said he wasn't leaving for the LSU job, which is true.
lol Yeah, this is how he got around lying about TX:

Herman added, “I said guys this isn’t true what you are hearing about LSU. Do I need to have another team meeting to address it? Because we had multiple throughout the course of the previous few weeks. They said, ‘No coach we’ll handle it. We’re numb to it at this point and we understand you’re not going to lie to us.'”
 

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lol Yeah, this is how he got around lying about TX:

Herman added, “I said guys this isn’t true what you are hearing about LSU. Do I need to have another team meeting to address it? Because we had multiple throughout the course of the previous few weeks. They said, ‘No coach we’ll handle it. We’re numb to it at this point and we understand you’re not going to lie to us.'”
But we got Muschamp. Winner. Right?
 

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One possibility tossed around (of the many being tossed around) is Norvell to Bama and Deion to FSU.
 

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Sounds like Kiffin and Dabo are out....sooooooo, DeBoer or Norvell??


Be wary of intentional counter-intelligence leaks to throw folks off the trail.
If not Dablo, why no mention of Venables?
Following the defensive minded footprint and the real impetus behind Clemson's best teams.
 

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And now Sark+Arch rumors 😂

Somebody will eventually guess the right thing and be all braggy about it.
 
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And now Sark+Arch rumors 😂

Somebody will eventually guess the right thing and be all braggy about it.

Yeah, I don't really trust any rumor. Even if it comes from the guy himself. Too many 180's for me to be trusting.
 

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And now Sark+Arch rumors 😂

Somebody will eventually guess the right thing and be all braggy about it.
This crossed my mind earlier, but I think Sark is better off staying put. Texas is every bit the powerhouse/money train that Bama is. They've just missed on their last few coaches. He appears to be the right one, finally.
 
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Wow. He says he was still going back and forth at 3:55. No way anybody knew this was going down.

 

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Now that he's retired, I wonder if Saban would ever speak out more publicly against the portal and NIL. He broadly hinted at his dislike for the portal but never flat-out said it's bad for the sport. Finebaum, Stephen A Smith and others have confirmed he hated both.

Obviously, as an active coach he could never say anything b/c that affects recruiting. I would just love for some prominent individual to go scorched earth on it.
 

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I wish to the Almighty that Spurrier had retired in the same manner as Saban, especially seeing as how he wanted to. His legacy would have been significantly enhanced had he gone out the same way. I'm certain he wishes it also.
 

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I wish to the Almighty that Spurrier had retired in the same manner as Saban, especially seeing as how he wanted to. His legacy would have been significantly enhanced had he gone out the same way. I'm certain he wishes it also.
Spurrier had two options: gut out an abysmal and worst season of his entire career or walk away mid season. Either way his ego was going to take a massive, massive hit. Legacy? That’s a different story.

edit: misread your post. Yes it would’ve worked out much better for everybody involved that he walked away after the bowl win over Miami. Our fate may have been much different.
 
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I wish to the Almighty that Spurrier had retired in the same manner as Saban, especially seeing as how he wanted to. His legacy would have been significantly enhanced had he gone out the same way. I'm certain he wishes it also.
Me too. He could have walked away after a winning season, having just beaten a blue blood in a bowl game. I lost a lot of respect in him the way he did it. To me, it was a tarnished legacy.
 

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Me too. He could have walked away after a winning season, having just beaten a blue blood in a bowl game. I lost a lot of respect in him the way he did it. To me, it was a tarnished legacy.
I think some of us need to remember, though, that he tried to go the extra mile to satisfy the desires of other people and not himself. Steve Spurrier is an egotistical man, but I don't believe ego brought him back. At any rate, it was very lamentable - very lamentable indeed.