Don’t think for one second that Franklin didn’t want to shove it up the “Brownhole” on WVU, especially after that ring around the rosie two point attempt.
Scoring late in the game when the game is in hand
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Great point. Using his reasoning, when we put in our 2nd team D, they should have quit trying to score. So stupid. As well, He calls a time out with around 2:00 minutes left because he wants to do his best to make the score look closer. Well Franklin wanted it to look better. Too effing bad. These kind of coaches are the worst. They always end up being canned.
You guys saying no problem with PSU scoring at the end would be the first one's crying if the rolls were reversed and you know it. 4th and 3 you don't kick the fg and run up score, you run the ball and get the first down and take a knee or you don't get it and it's a turnover, but you don't try and run up score, how the games been for a hundred yr.
What games have you been watching for a hundred years? Did you see some of the scores from Saturday? How about 81-0 against Cincinnati in 1991? What Penn State did against WVU wasn’t even close to running up the score. Penn State has taken their fair share of *** whippings and I didn’t see too many articles or talking heads crying about those games. Saturday’s situation was entirely on Brown….if he didn’t call those two timeouts at the end, time would have run out without another score. If you want to extend the game you better be ready to play it.
When exactly do your 2s and 3s get real game experience except in a blowout?
They don’t get that experience by taking a knee. Put in the backups and let them play. If you can't stop the freakin backuos you deserve to have the score run up on you.
And as far as the gamblers....eff every last one of them. Shouldn't be betting the rent money.
They don’t get that experience by taking a knee. Put in the backups and let them play. If you can't stop the freakin backuos you deserve to have the score run up on you.
And as far as the gamblers....eff every last one of them. Shouldn't be betting the rent money.
This is the key point. Coach Brown tried to slow down the game but ended up giving the Penn State offense time to run. Can't have it both ways, imho.
I also believe the back-ups earn and deserve actual playing time if only because of the daily poundings they take from the 1's and 2's in practices. Get on the field in front of 110,000 fans in the stadium and millions of TV eyeballs? Darn straight do your best to draw a cheer from that crowd!
As I noted elsewhere, the people bleating about sportsmanship are the ones who will cut you off in traffic then smile and flip you the bird.
If Brown didn’t want PSU’s backups to keep playing against his first team defense he shouldn’t haven’t extended the game by calling timeouts after they failed to convert the offside kick and it was then clear WVU was not going to win. Besides he should be chewing out his team for not being able to stop PSU’s 2nd team offense which was running basic running plays with the exception of one quick slant Pribula threw for a first down.
Stop calling timeouts when you have no chance to win and whining about the other team’s backups scoring
Sadly, in 1994, PSU did that, and it royally bit them in the arse.
I think that is bush too. Get off of the field. Game has been decided.
Great point. Open up the passing game and hurry up offense. Go for two and onside kick when you you are down by 40 with a minute left.
I thought that they crossed the LOS during their silliness - is that permitted?
It’s how the game works. If Franklin doesn’t score you’ll have some knuckle dragger like Herbstreit yapping about only beating WVU by two TDs at selection time.
I think giving the backups a chance to run the offense in a real game situation is smart. Nothing wrong with it. I have no doubt that if the First team was still in, Franklin would have taken a knee.
Ask yourself this, if WVU was on our goal-line with 6 seconds left and down 15-31, do you think Brown has his guys take a knee?
Sour grapes from a coach on the hotseat.
Ask yourself this, if WVU was on our goal-line with 6 seconds left and down 15-31, do you think Brown has his guys take a knee?
Sour grapes from a coach on the hotseat.
C’mon, it’s not like Franklin called a pass on 4th & 12 up 48-13 with three minutes left in the game.
Yes, but that was for a TD... completely different.
I am one of those that think it is the defenses job to stop the offense, so I have no problem with any of it.
If a team kneels that is their choice, but it is not required.
No sports bettor should be complaining. If you handicap college football, you should know that James Franklin (and many other coaches) are aware of the spread and will try to beat it. JF has demonstrated this numerous times, so if you don't know this as a sports bettor, it's on you.
And btw, it wasn't like Franklin was throwing downfield on the least drive. I thought it was pretty conservative play calling.
It was a two score game with 3 minutes left and WVU kicks onside......I can't believe we are even having this conversation. It's not like PSU threw a 50 yard bomb with two seconds left. PSU executed the drive perfectly. Anyone that doesn't like it can go piss into the wind.
Exactly. The onside kick was a big flashing neon sign saying "game's still on."
WVU was down 24 when they scored. Going for 2 to make it a two score game was a reasonable/correct call.
That being said, as others have pointed out, WVU was playing like the game was still in doubt using TOs and such, so it's hard to argue against PSU responding in kind especially given it was the backups in.
We would definitely see stats about how PSU "failed to cover the spread" (or eventually PSU is x-x against the spread) and sadly those discussions do color perception when it comes to selection for CFP rankings. Not to mention that PSU scoring late will be long forgotten when the CFP committee meets, but the score of the game will be written in ink.
I'm not happy that it has come to this but there's definitely a downside to sportsmanship and teams don't get any benefit of the doubt for it. So, what are you going to do?
West Virginia had many opportunities to raise the white flag but repeatedly refused to do so. Putting in a second string QB sends a strong message that they have had enough - they did not do that. They scored and, in a clear indication that they wanted the competition to continue, ran a goofy huddle and went for two. Signaling that they wanted more, they tried an on-side kick. Their defense failed to stop the Penn State 2nd/3rd string vanilla attack and ultimately the Lions scored. No quarter was asked and none given.
Let's see it WV calls off the dogs against Duquesne this week, or would they do the same to Pitt ?
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