No and every time a student fails a test, it's the fault of the teacher.
SEAN CLIFFORD DRAFTED
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Here ya go ...
Every time you get upset, you don't have to cry. Learn to manage your feelings.
Be interesting to see.....someone has to QB the scout team....and as a 3rd string he might last if he doesn't ask for $$$$. Guys i played with lasted 10 years because they took the minimum and maybe not starters but good backups.
Yeah, it was worth it. He was better than Allar last year so he played over him. I want the better players on the field. I like winning.
So you think the starters should be determined by recruit rankings? I know you don't, but what might a 6th year guy have over a frosh? It's not that hard to figure this stuff out and you will always have turnover in college football every couple of year years...if not every year. You don't play for next year if you're a HC as that is how you get fired. It's another bad fan myth.
If you had Allar at the helm this year, Penn State would have been watching the Rose Bowl from their televisions.
Saw this on line. Not sure how I get these, but here it is for your reading pleasure.....
Auburn got their *** beat by Penn State in 2021, then again in 2022…and Justin keeping that trend going in 2023
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Justin Hokanson
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Feb 25
It was a nice hit. It’s part of the reason why Owen Pappoe will be drafted. Free agency isn’t that bad, Sean. No need to be angry. twitter.com/seancliff14/st…
Sean Clifford - 149th pick.
Owen Pappoe - 158th pick.
Auburn got their *** beat by Penn State in 2021, then again in 2022…and Justin keeping that trend going in 2023
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Justin Hokanson
@_JHokanson
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Feb 25
It was a nice hit. It’s part of the reason why Owen Pappoe will be drafted. Free agency isn’t that bad, Sean. No need to be angry. twitter.com/seancliff14/st…
Sean Clifford - 149th pick.
Owen Pappoe - 158th pick.
Got it Coach MoogyHere ya go ...
Every time you get upset, you don't have to cry. Learn to manage your feelings.
University of MonteVallo?!? 90% acceptance rate, 34% graduation rate. Was Hokanson one of the elite 34%? Does it matter?Saw this on line. Not sure how I get these, but here it is for your reading pleasure.....
Auburn got their *** beat by Penn State in 2021, then again in 2022…and Justin keeping that trend going in 2023
Quote Tweet
Justin Hokanson
@_JHokanson
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Feb 25
It was a nice hit. It’s part of the reason why Owen Pappoe will be drafted. Free agency isn’t that bad, Sean. No need to be angry. twitter.com/seancliff14/st…
Sean Clifford - 149th pick.
Owen Pappoe - 158th pick.
If you had Allar at the helm this year, Penn State would have been watching the Rose Bowl from their televisions, after winning their CFP semi game 2 days prior. See? I can say silly things we'll never know would have happened, too!
I heard someone say J Shorter was a good pick b/c he stretches the field w his speed. I never saw any speed. In fact, I’d say he played slow. Can’t believe he was drafted at all. Underwhelming
No, I don't think so. I think you have to really improve your skill set in order to reach the level of silliness this board expects. But keep work ing at it. We will probably have to red shirt you this season, so you can work on your craft.
He showed good improvement every year, who knew?
But Levis' knocks knocked him to the very beginning of the 2nd round, the 33rd pick overall, and the 4th QB taken. Clifford's knocks knocked him to the middle of the 5th round, the 149th pick overall, and the 11th QB taken. So, maybe, just maybe, Clifford was more knocked up?
Green Bay fans and several beat writers bashing Clifford , the 11th of 14 QB's taken in the draft. GB also took a second TE from SD St. at pick 78. Arguing about a 5th round pick, Cmon Man.
Green Bay fans should be more concerned about their starting QB, i can safely say Detroit and Minnesota will see a Super Bowl before Green Bay.
Green Bay fans should be more concerned about their starting QB, i can safely say Detroit and Minnesota will see a Super Bowl before Green Bay.
Packers explain reasoning behind drafting QB Sean Clifford in fifth round
Brian Gutekunst said drafting QB Sean Clifford in the fifth round was an "easy" decision. The Packers like his experience, athleticism and makeup.
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Gutekunst neglected to mention that Clifford is older than Jordan Love so he'll bring some needed maturity to Green Bay's QB room.Packers explain reasoning behind drafting QB Sean Clifford in fifth round
Brian Gutekunst said drafting QB Sean Clifford in the fifth round was an "easy" decision. The Packers like his experience, athleticism and makeup.
Packers explain reasoning behind drafting QB Sean Clifford in fifth round
Brian Gutekunst said drafting QB Sean Clifford in the fifth round was an "easy" decision. The Packers like his experience, athleticism and makeup.
Sigh, I see nothing about his hair.
Packers explain reasoning behind drafting QB Sean Clifford in fifth round
Brian Gutekunst said drafting QB Sean Clifford in the fifth round was an "easy" decision. The Packers like his experience, athleticism and makeup.
Clifford wears make-up? Huh.
This is a franchise that had Brett Favre and/or Aaron Rodgers as QB for 30 years and managed a whopping two SB wins…yeah, they have bigger problems than a QB they drafted in the fifth round.
They don’t hold clipboards anymore. Most hold Microsoft Surface pads.
Watched Shorter quite a few times at UF, never impressed me either, he has size but thats about it.
I would like to actually win against OSU and Michigan instead of celebrating annual wins over Rutgers and Co.
I think when you hit the lottery by signing the #1 HS QB recruit out of OHIO you get him as much meaningful game experience as you can, as fast as you can, so that the program benefits from him for as long as it can. Because while you owe the 2022 team an opportunity to win, you also owe that same opportunity to the 2023 team. Coming into 2023 PSU didn't get its high profile QB as ready as it could and the 11 wins plus Rose Bowl didn't translate into recruiting a top five class or acquiring massive high-end portal recruits to help said QB. At the end of the day, did we truly set Drew up for long-term success against OSU and Michigan? That's all I am saying.
We don't know if he was better. This is just silly. There are lots of reasons for picking one QB over another. And they aren't always the correct ones, or they're based on uncertainties, so we can never know who was right or wrong. Clifford may have completely outplayed Allar, getting the starting nod ... or like so many coaches out there, in so many situations, the coach may have defaulted to experience over uncertainty. I would imagine, for many coaches, a frosh would have to just be insanely better, with few to no mistakes, to unseat a 34 year old 16th senior with 13 consecutive years of starting experience. Even then a coach may go with what's comfortable to him. It doesn't mean the team couldn't have performed better with Allar at the helm.
From what I’ve seen of Franklin, he (like Paterno before him) plays the players he thinks will help him win that year. I am 100% confident we were better off last year with Clifford (who drove me crazy sometimes, like everybody else) at the helm than Allar.
Allar was stopping Michigan’s running game last year? Or getting us a 4th quarter lead against Ohio State? And not losing any other games? I don’t believe any of that.
id love to beat Michigan and Ohio State. It’s not easy to do. How many times did Joe pull that off in the same season? I do think there is a chance to do that this season.
And I hear what you're saying....it's fan message board drivel. He got more snaps than any P5 1a backup last year that didn't have a starter go down to injury. HC's cannot play for next year....it's a message board fairy tale. OSU didn't play McCord and their younger QB's more....they must have written off 2023. Allar played in 10 games and had 60 passing attempts. McCord played in 7 and only had 20 attempts.....so OSU didn't care about 2023. Do you really think that is the case...as I don't. If you ask any HC if they could get the depth everywhere more snaps and PT they would all nod yes, but it's not always in the cards. Maybe Beau should start now because Drew could be gone after next year...we owe to 2025. This idea this staff didn't get Allar on the field early and often is absurd.
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Coaches, like Paterno (and a million other coaches out there now and throughout history), often default to experience, and the stability and confidence (in the player) that they're going to do what the coaches want them to do and make the fewest mistakes, so the coaches can focus on other things. That doesn't mean that the alternative couldn't have been better, ultimately. Coaches are risk adverse and trying to reduce the "noise." If given the choice between allowing a kid the chance to fail, and a chance to really succeed, or allowing a kid to do what he can reasonably be expected to do at a decently competent level, most coaches (including Paterno and Franklin) will default to the latter, especially when seniority and experience are disparate.
He's tall. He could probably slim up a touch or put on some weight and improve his chances (at WR or convert to TE like J Johnson did). Breaking into any rotation with a fairly loaded Bills offense would be impressive as is.
I think they will typically default to the better player and that is often the more experienced player who has been in the system longer and knows how to react without thinking. It is even more likely at the QB position. In the little bit he played, Allar showed me enough to be excited about his future and glad he wasn’t starting.
OR.....SOME fans want to see the new shiny toy right away (we are all guilty of this IMO) a bunch of the time and assume the newer player is further along than he may be. Not for nothing, but yes a 6th year senior/4 year starter will have the game slowed down so much more than a true frosh. The calls at the LOS, protections.....etc....and things like that some fans don't always account for. It doesn't mean the other player has less potential at all or the staff is 100% correct either, but there is more gray to this than just coaches feeling comfortable. They actually like to win too believe it or not.
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