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The Peeper

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Target in Starkville!

What am I missing from Target? It is brought up in this forum weekly. I lived less than 10 minutes from one for over 10 years and I bet I didn't go in it more than twice. It's a red WalMart with a terrible sporting goods and automotive section. What is the appeal?
 
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What am I missing from Target? It is brought up in this forum weekly. I lived less than 10 minutes from one for over 10 years and I bet I didn't go in it more than twice. It's a red WalMart with a terrible sporting goods and automotive section. What is the appeal?
I don't want to offend, but .....

Think about your question "what is the appeal?" and then consider the types of people who don't typically shop there, apparently yourself included. There's your answer.

Bonus: From my experience, there is a much higher rate of quality yoga pants in target.
 

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Is tweeting about huge news for Mississippi tomorrow. Any guesses?
Yellow Creek nuclear plant back on track to be completed. Or some other "economic investment" that is sure to turn Mississippi into the economic power house and utopia we all know is just around the corner like every governor has announced for the last 20 governors.
 

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I don't want to offend, but .....

Think about your question "what is the appeal?" and then consider the types of people who don't typically shop there, apparently yourself included. There's your answer.

Bonus: From my experience, there is a much higher rate of quality yoga pants in target.
10 years ago the Lulu store in Highland Village had the most attractive customer base and employees in the 'Sip. I never go shopping with the ol' lady, but when she said she was going to Lulu, I beat her to the car. Unfortunately, in the last 10 years or so, fat, ugly chicks have determined it's ok to wear Lulu gear.
 

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What am I missing from Target? It is brought up in this forum weekly. I lived less than 10 minutes from one for over 10 years and I bet I didn't go in it more than twice. It's a red WalMart with a terrible sporting goods and automotive section. What is the appeal?

Hot moms go there to shop. Allegedly.
 

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I don't want to offend, but .....

Think about your question "what is the appeal?" and then consider the types of people who don't typically shop there, apparently yourself included. There's your answer.

Bonus: From my experience, there is a much higher rate of quality yoga pants in target.
That's a solid point. There was also a time where women lots of women who would not wear clothes from Walmart would wear clothes from Target. Not sure if that's still the case.

They also supposedly pay slightly more so in theory you should get slightly more pleasant and competent workers (although I'm curious if Walmart's stats are dragged down by all the small markets they are in and don't pay basically the same as Target in the same markets).
 

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What am I missing from Target? It is brought up in this forum weekly. I lived less than 10 minutes from one for over 10 years and I bet I didn't go in it more than twice. It's a red WalMart with a terrible sporting goods and automotive section. What is the appeal?
Target is for the broads. The beauty care products draw them in en masse. My wife and daughter love it solely because it has an Ulta in it. Once the ladies are in, they start wasting money on other things. Their toddler clothing is ok as well. Our Target doesn't have an automotive or a sporting goods section. Maybe one aisle of sh1tty baseball gloves and $25 tennis rackets.
 

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Hence the phrase direct and indirect.
The Office Nbc GIF
 

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I'm happy for it, but what we need are good paying, low skill jobs that employ a bunch of people like auto and tire plants. Hopefully Trump will bring back some manufacturing to on shore and Tater Tot will have us positioned to take advantage of that.
This is the biggest capital investment I've seen in East MS in my lifetime (I'm in my 60s) even more than MS Power's Kemper power plant. The expected local tax revenues are significant. I'm just grateful and will leave it at that.
 

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nice, but slightly underwhelming?

I'm assuming these datacenters don't create a lot of permanent jobs?
You don't understand the impact. The real number is $24 B. He's holding back some cards. It will mean $150 MM for Lauderdale county every year. $150 MM for city of Meridian every year. And $150 MM for Lauderdale county schools every year. That's game changing revenue for that community. It's a big deal. There is more to come. There will be 6 of these total across the state announced in the next year or so.
 

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I don't want to offend, but .....

Think about your question "what is the appeal?" and then consider the types of people who don't typically shop there, apparently yourself included. There's your answer.

Bonus: From my experience, there is a much higher rate of quality yoga pants in target.

Sorry Shmuley, not a Target. You'll have to buy your yoga pants elsewhere
 

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This is the biggest capital investment I've seen in East MS in my lifetime (I'm in my 60s) even more than MS Power's Kemper power plant. The expected local tax revenues are significant. I'm just grateful and will leave it at that.
Agreed.

Considering Lauderdale County’s unemployment rate is around 3 percent, you’ve got to look beyond job creation here and speaking of which…

You don't understand the impact. The real number is $24 B. He's holding back some cards. It will mean $150 MM for Lauderdale county every year. $150 MM for city of Meridian every year. And $150 MM for Lauderdale county schools every year. That's game changing revenue for that community. It's a big deal. There is more to come. There will be 6 of these total across the state announced in the next year or so.
Bingo.

The tax revenue for the state, schools, cities, and counties is where it’s at.

I’m not a fan of getting rid of the state income tax. I’ve seen how Kansas bungled it.

That said, if Mississippi gets its act together and invests in projects that create enough tax revenue to partially offset it in stages, then I could be changing my tune…
 
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The City of Orange Beach voted for a 2% tourism tax for the school district. Last year they took in $114 million dollars. They are currently building a $52 million gym and football field. Not to be outdone Gulf Shores is currently building a new high school on the Beach Express going in to OB just so they can tear down the current school to build a road through the middle of it. Why build the road you ask, so the can build a 24 million dollar walking bridge across the inter coastal from Tacky Jacks to Lulus and this walking bridge is going to block Canal Rd. Taxes are getting out of hand but we keep paying them.
 
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I'm happy for it, but what we need are good paying, low skill jobs that employ a bunch of people like auto and tire plants. Hopefully Trump will bring back some manufacturing to on shore and Tater Tot will have us positioned to take advantage of that.
Disagree. Mississippi needs high paying white collar jobs to prevent brain drain. There are tons of blue collar jobs in Mississippi, but those aren't keeping college graduates from leaving.

High paying white collar jobs bring lots of other jobs. There's more disposable income to spread around and spend on other businesses/industries.
 

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You don't understand the impact. The real number is $24 B. He's holding back some cards. It will mean $150 MM for Lauderdale county every year. $150 MM for city of Meridian every year. And $150 MM for Lauderdale county schools every year. That's game changing revenue for that community. It's a big deal. There is more to come. There will be 6 of these total across the state announced in the next year or so.
that's awesome, but let's some more big time manufacturing to put the lazy m'effers to work.

The need for a lot more decent paying jobs beats the added tax revenue, because we all know that will be wasted.
 

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Bingo.

The tax revenue for the state, schools, cities, and counties is where it’s at.
For MS to flourish, we have to create more regional/economic hubs, and places like Meridian and Vicksburg are the type places that are next in line behind Desoto, Tupelo/Oxford, GTR, Metro, Hattiesburg/Pine Belt and Gulf Coast. Meridian and Vicksburg also have assets you can build around (ERDC, port, history/tourism in Vicksburg, ; hospitals, MSU, National Guard/Naval Air Station, and rail/highway/airport options in Meridian. This is a big step in doing so.
 

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Disagree. Mississippi needs high paying white collar jobs to prevent brain drain. There are tons of blue collar jobs in Mississippi, but those aren't keeping college graduates from leaving.

High paying white collar jobs bring lots of other jobs. There's more disposable income to spread around and spend on other businesses/industries.
Hey man, I understand that, but we're not stopping the brain drain.

In most of the state, there's just not much for young, moitvated folks to do (outside of hunting and church). Even in Bama, they have great hiking, camping, mountain biking, nightlife, beautiful clear lakes and great beaches. We have none of that (outside of the extreme northeast corner). We need to have low skill jobs that match up with the majority of our workforce. Yes, keep the high-tech employers coming, but our real focus needs to be on low skill jobs, we'll never be Austin, Nashville, Huntsville, etc.

30 years ago, there were neat bars/nightclubs all over the metro, fast forward to today and there's hardly any. I say legalize recreational MJ, put a first class casino in Jxn in an "entertainment district" and that would be at least a start in turning this state into a more attractive place for young folks. The "one lake" project (on the Pearl south of the Rez) or whatever it's called now would also spur recreational development.

I have buddy who's son just joined the marines, he's now in the DMV, he's constantly telling his dad, "there's so much to do here."
 
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Hey man, I understand that, but we're not stopping the brain drain.

In most of the state, there's just not much for young, moitvated folks to do (outside of hunting and church). Even in Bama, they have great hiking, camping, mountain biking, beautiful clear lakes and great beaches. We have none of that (outside of the extreme northeast corner). We need to have low skill jobs that match up with the majority of our workforce. Yes, keep the high-tech employers coming, but our real focus needs to be on low skill jobs, we'll never be Austin, Nashville, Huntsville, etc.

30 years ago, there were neat bars/nightclubs all over the metro, fast forward to today and there's hardly any. I say legalize recreational MJ, put a first class casino in Jxn in an "entertainment district" and that would be at least a start in turning this state into a more attractive place for young folks. The "one lake" project (on the Pearl south of the Rez) or whatever it's called now would also spur recreational development.

I have buddy who's son just joined the marines, he's now in the DMV, he's conststanlt telling his dad, "there's so much to do here."

You want to take Jackson and make it worse. Adding a casino, legalizing weed and sticking an 'entertainment district' in there isn't going to attract educated young professionals looking to start or maintain a family. You have to address the mismanagement of the city first, reduce the violent crime/theft that's rampant there, and lastly find some way to improve the schools. If I'm not from Mississippi, and I'm considering moving my family someplace for a job opportunity, these are key factors to consider. The amount of 'things to do' or 'enternainment' takes a backseat to safe, affordable cities and effective schools.
 

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What kind of target?**********
I feel like with the amount college students and the amount of females target would do well in Starkville. If other small towns without a college can have a target I'm not sure why they don't. Especially when there isn't one for miles. It would attract moms and wives from neighboring towns.
 

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The City of Orange Beach voted for a 2% tourism tax for the school district. Last year they took in $114 million dollars. They are currently building a $52 million gym and football field. Not to be outdone Gulf Shores is currently building a new high school on the Beach Express going in to OB just so they can tear down the current school to build a road through the middle of it. Why build the road you ask, so the can build a 24 million dollar walking bridge across the inter coastal from Tacky Jacks to Lulus and this walking bridge is going to block Canal Rd. Taxes are getting out of hand but we keep paying them.
I noticed that last time we went to see our family in gulf shores I always usually turn off the express there into back of craft farms.
That place looks massive.
I was wondering why they were moving it.
Is that suburb vet clinic actually in service? That place looks like a nice place to never have anything going when I pass by
 

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You want to take Jackson and make it worse. Adding a casino, legalizing weed and sticking an 'entertainment district' in there isn't going to attract educated young professionals looking to start or maintain a family. You have to address the mismanagement of the city first, reduce the violent crime/theft that's rampant there, and lastly find some way to improve the schools. If I'm not from Mississippi, and I'm considering moving my family someplace for a job opportunity, these are key factors to consider. The amount of 'things to do' or 'enternainment' takes a backseat to safe, affordable cities and effective schools.
You’d turn Mississippi into Oklahoma, which would be a step up… just not a big step.
 
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