This could be one of the reasons I don't take women's basketball seriously

[adcoop]

We are talking about fundamental basketball. How do you even compare the NBA where they let guys take five steps all game long? It’s non-comparable that’s why the NBA is unwatchable and the fact they also love the Chinese.

Okay. I can't follow you if you want to get political. I have basketball conversations not political ones. Further, nobody is taking five steps. Do they get an extra step on the gather with those step backs? Yes. but if you read the NBA rulebook, the extra step is in the rules. Just a different game.

 

[atl-cock]

I’d trade every accomplishment in every other sport for an SEC title in football. Just me. I enjoy our men’s basketball and baseball, but a conference football title blows everything else away.

I trade no titles. I want every varsity sport USC sponsors to win titles. None at the expense of another. Whether or not I follow a particular sport is irrelevant.

 

[atl-cock]

Wrong, I am black and was a three year starter at a 3A High School that made the playoffs in the final two years I was there. Just like a non-athlete, all you have is insults. You insult the ladies, and when someone points how little basketball knowledge you have, you peg me as a private school white guy. Also, tells me that you are new. Most of the regular posters will tell you that I am Black. LOL and SMH at some of the non-sense on here.

The colour of your skin is irrelevant to me.

 

[Uscg1984]

Didn't she tour with Porter Wagoner for a while?

 

[adcoop]

The colour of your skin is irrelevant to me.

It is irrelevant. Old boy is the one that turned me into a White, Walk-on player without knowing me because he didn't like what I had to say. If he knew anything about basketball, especially in this state, the best players usually get taken by the private schools. Zion played at a private school. I think Porter-Gaud is a private school and Khris Middleton, Aaron Nesmith, and Josiah James ended up there. So, some of those private school white kids probably played against better talent than me even if they got beat up by a 100. LOL!!!

 

[Beanerball]

So we are complaining about women’s basketball because our football team is average? Why? One doesn’t have anything to do with the other. Guys, speaking of athletic ability, we have women on our team who can dunk the damn ball. They are fun to watch and are now the dominant program in the country. Let me say it again, the dominant program in the country. I trade anything those women did bringing us 2 National Championships and likely many more. And again, this affects men’s sports success how? Shame on any of you who downplay the accomplishments of the WBB program. Those women put in the same work as the men. They can’t help it that are dominant and the football team is not.

 

[atl-cock]

So we are complaining about women’s basketball because our football team is average? Why? One doesn’t have anything to do with the other. Guys, speaking of athletic ability, we have women on our team who can dunk the damn ball. They are fun to watch and are now the dominant program in the country. Let me say it again, the dominant program in the country. I trade anything those women did bringing us 2 National Championships and likely many more. And again, this affects men’s sports success how? Shame on any of you who downplay the accomplishments of the WBB program. Those women put in the same work as the men. They can’t help it that are dominant and the football team is not.

Shame on anyone who downplays one varsity sport for another.

 

[Diz]

Okay. I can't follow you if you want to get political. I have basketball conversations not political ones. Further, nobody is taking five steps. Do they get an extra step on the gather with those step backs? Yes. but if you read the NBA rulebook, the extra step is in the rules. Just a different game.

I can’t argue with any idiot that sides with the NBA haha

 

[18IsTheMan]

I trade no titles. I want every varsity sport USC sponsors to win titles. None at the expense of another. Whether or not I follow a particular sport is irrelevant.

All title are not created equal. Football SEC title >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WBB national title. Would bring far more benefit to the school.

 

[Lurker123]

Wrong, I am black and was a three year starter at a 3A High School that made the playoffs in the final two years I was there. Just like a non-athlete, all you have is insults. You insult the ladies, and when someone points how little basketball knowledge you have, you peg me as a private school white guy. Also, tells me that you are new. Most of the regular posters will tell you that I am Black. LOL and SMH at some of the non-sense on here.

Okay Al Bundy.

I don't think claiming people who disagree with you are "non athletes" while trying to brag about your old HIGHSCHOOL days is nearly as impressive as you think it is.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Okay Al Bundy.

I don't think claiming people who disagree with you are "non athletes" while trying to brag about your old HIGHSCHOOL days is nearly as impressive as you think it is.

 

[Big JC]

I know a staggering number of people, men mostly, whose lives peaked in HS and they can't let go of that time in their life. I also know a few who can't let go of college. These are people in their 40s and older, it is really sort of pathetic.

 

[atl-cock]

All title are not created equal. Football SEC title >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WBB national title. Would bring far more benefit to the school.

Indeed football is the cash cow for those schools which sponsor the sport. But I want all athletes in all sports to represent USC well both during and not during competition

 

[Shannonl]

It's just a lower level of athleticism... fixed it for you

Do you dislike college sports because their level of athleticism is lower than their pro counterparts?

 

[will110]

What are you looking for her to do? A few monster dunks and a couple goaltending calls?

My sister was an all-amercan basketball player and played against D.Staley. I also played college basketball. My sister was a better women's player than I was a men's player. Could my sister hang with the men that played in college?? She would be the first one to tell you hell no.

My point? Men and women are simply different. I have learned to enjoy and appreciate the women's game. Those girls are a lot more talented than you are giving them credit.

It's not about talent...there are extremely talented women's players that have as much raw talent as men. It's just a very different story from an athleticism/physical ability standpoint.

 

[Thunderstick]

Go ahead, identify as a woman and try out next season. I want the film rights, my idea. You obviously don’t care for women’s hoops. But you sure like to complain about them.

I love Carolina women's hoops and watch all of their games...I just don't like Cardoso's inability to get off the floor.

For the record, I do not complain about women's hoops...just Cardoso's lack of any semblance of athleticism. I believe our women's basketball team could beat a sizable number of boys' high school teams -- at least those that don't have an above average center.

 

[Beanerball]

Just read where more viewers watched our game with LSU than watched the Celtics vs the Heat on TNT.

 

[Blues man]

Just read where more viewers watched our game with LSU than watched the Celtics vs the Heat on TNT.

If that gets out, they will want more money

 

[Thunderstick]

Cardoso is very athletic.

Cardoso didn't get two inches off the floor...the only thing she has going for her is her height. The rest of her teammates appear to be athletically gifted.

 

[Spurman54]

I can think of several other reasons but I'll refrain.

You are a Clemson fan and the definition of a bad womens basketball team is yours. Lets see USC beats CU by 69. last night NC STATE hammers you by 40. No one goes to the Clemson womens basketball games. Yea you call this special,family. This is Clemson.

 

[Spurman54]

What are you looking for her to do? A few monster dunks and a couple goaltending calls?

My sister was an all-amercan basketball player and played against D.Staley. I also played college basketball. My sister was a better women's player than I was a men's player. Could my sister hang with the men that played in college?? She would be the first one to tell you hell no.

My point? Men and women are simply different. I have learned to enjoy and appreciate the women's game. Those girls are a lot more talented than you are giving them credit.

I agree with you and to further my point there are some women who could play with the men. Case in point Caitlin Clark, Asha Wilson, Ju Ju Watkins at Southern Cal.

 

[Spurman54]

I am glad that you talked about the playing experience of yourself and your sister. I did not get to play on the level that you did. I was a good high school player, but there is not much room on college rosters for 5'11" shooting guards who could only go right unless you have the speed of say an Allen Iverson. However, what I have noticed through my basketball and life experience is that men who played the game can appreciate the work females put into the game to a greater extent than men who did not play for whatever reason. Although it's readily apparent that women don't have the size, strength, or agility of the guys, players know the work that Paopao puts into being an elite 3 point shooter in her game. They know the skill work put into to become an elite ball handler like a Raven Johnson or Milaysia Fulwiley. So, they tend not to poo poo on the abilities of the ladies like guys who did not play tend to do. I was coached by my Dad back in the 80s. He is 87 now and Gamecock ladies basketball and the WNBA is appointment television for him. He says he likes it better than the men now because the women, due to their lack of size and strength, are forced to focus more on fundamentals and don't cut corners like the guys. I am not there yet with my Dad. I am mainly a Gamecock ladies fan when it comes to women's basketball, but I appreciate what the ladies do. I even watch the big games for the ladies like the WNBA Finals. I just don't get it when men try to put the ladies down by continuously stating the obvious that they are not as fast or strong as the men.

The men are too busy taking drugs, getting in car accidents killing people, hotdogging it on and the court. Do I need to go. I speak the truth.

 

[Viennacock]

All title are not created equal. Football SEC title >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WBB national title. Would bring far more benefit to the school.

I love Carolina women's hoops and watch all of their games...I just don't like Cardoso's inability to get off the floor.

For the record, I do not complain about women's hoops...just Cardoso's lack of any semblance of athleticism. I believe our women's basketball team could beat a sizable number of boys' high school teams -- at least those that don't have an above average center.

You are a Clemson fan and the definition of a bad womens basketball team is yours. Lets see USC beats CU by 69. last night NC STATE hammers you by 40. No one goes to the Clemson womens basketball games. Yea you call this special,family. This is Clemson.

You are an idiot. Why are you dragging Clemson into this?

 

[Viennacock]

I agree with you and to further my point there are some women who could play with the men. Case in point Caitlin Clark, Asha Wilson, Ju Ju Watkins at Southern Cal.

They wouldn't be able to hang with division 1 men's players. Trust me.

 

[Spurman54]

They wouldn't be able to hang with division 1 men's players. Trust me.

The only trust I see is what I know and what I have seen. These young ladies can hang with the best.

 

[Viennacock]

The only trust I see is what I know and what I have seen. These young ladies can hang with the best.

Best women for sure. You don't know a lot if you think they can hang with the best men. I have seen top women try to play with div 1 men first hand. They can't hang. That said, I'm in awe of the talent of the women you mention.

 

[USCEDGE]

I love Carolina women's hoops and watch all of their games...I just don't like Cardoso's inability to get off the floor.

For the record, I do not complain about women's hoops...just Cardoso's lack of any semblance of athleticism. I believe our women's basketball team could beat a sizable number of boys' high school teams -- at least those that don't have an above average center.

And how would you correct that? You wish she were not on the team? You think we would be undefeated without her? She is 6'7" for crying out loud. How high do you want her to jump? Danny Taylor was a 7 footer but did not have the vertical leap of Nate Davis. Fact....big people can not jump as high as smaller people! And Cardoso is not as athletic as Fulwilley. Do I need to explain why? She is plenty athletic for a 6'7" girl in my opinion!

 

[atl-cock]

They wouldn't be able to hang with division 1 men's players. Trust me.

Of course they couldn't. I came to that conclusion as well, @Viennacock.

A lower level D-III or NAIA school - maybe.

 

[atl-cock]

And how would you correct that? You wish she were not on the team? You think we would be undefeated without her? She is 6'7" for crying out loud. How high do you want her to jump? Danny Taylor was a 7 footer but did not have the vertical leap of Nate Davis. Fact....big people can not jump as high as smaller people! And Cardoso is not as athletic as Fulwilley. Do I need to explain why? She is plenty athletic for a 6'7" girl in my opinion!

Danny Traylor.

 

[SC95]

I don't understand the negativity from some "fans" who continuously disrespect the women's basketball team. Dawn Staley is a great coach. As some have suggested, WBB is a different game, not a lesser game. The SC women's team plays the game very well and is a joy to watch.

 

[USCEDGE]

Danny Traylor.

I was in school when he played. Sat directly behind his parents at one game. I actually felt bad for them due to all the bad mouthing he was getting from the "fans." Spell check got me. My bad....

 

[BftCocks09]

The only trust I see is what I know and what I have seen. These young ladies can hang with the best.

This ain’t it. This isn’t the argument. Anyone who is actually making this argument is a lunatic. The women’s talent level just isn’t even anywhere close to D1 men. It just isn’t. That doesn’t mean women’s college basketball isn’t becoming a great product though. It’s not about talent level making it fun to watch, it’s about the parity and competitiveness in the game paired with marketed atmosphere. If it were all about talent level then every single college football fan in the world would fall into the same delusional category because, as fun as college football is to watch, the talent level overall isn’t even close to NFL teams. I like watching our women’s team, and women’s college basketball more generally as the game progresses, but to argue that people should watch because they’re as good or even close to the men in ability is just stupid.

 

[Viennacock]

This ain’t it. This isn’t the argument. Anyone who is actually making this argument is a lunatic. The women’s talent level just isn’t even anywhere close to D1 men. It just isn’t. That doesn’t mean women’s college basketball isn’t becoming a great product though. It’s not about talent level making it fun to watch, it’s about the parity and competitiveness in the game paired with marketed atmosphere. If it were all about talent level then every single college football fan in the world would fall into the same delusional category because, as fun as college football is to watch, the talent level overall isn’t even close to NFL teams. I like watching our women’s team, and women’s college basketball more generally as the game progresses, but to argue that people should watch because they’re as good or even close to the men in ability is just stupid.

I want to add that what separates the men and the women more than anything is strength, speed, jumping ability etc. Clark has the talent to shoot with the big boys. Put her in a three point contest with the boys and it wouldn't surprise me if she wins.

Put her on the court with the guys and she would't get open if they are playing man, she would have trouble getting her shot off and she would physically get beat up. She would also struggle on defense. She could possibly play with the guys as a zone breaker / spot up shooter, but these players have become dinosaurs.

 

[YankeeRooster]

She could be the founder of women's basketball and I wouldn't know it.

Yet you are in a WBB thread…..

 

[YankeeRooster]

No worse than Dawn in her LV and Gucci

So Sparkles is worried about how a woman dresses….go figure.

 

[YankeeRooster]

I am glad that you talked about the playing experience of yourself and your sister. I did not get to play on the level that you did. I was a good high school player, but there is not much room on college rosters for 5'11" shooting guards who could only go right unless you have the speed of say an Allen Iverson. However, what I have noticed through my basketball and life experience is that men who played the game can appreciate the work females put into the game to a greater extent than men who did not play for whatever reason. Although it's readily apparent that women don't have the size, strength, or agility of the guys, players know the work that Paopao puts into being an elite 3 point shooter in her game. They know the skill work put into to become an elite ball handler like a Raven Johnson or Milaysia Fulwiley. So, they tend not to poo poo on the abilities of the ladies like guys who did not play tend to do. I was coached by my Dad back in the 80s. He is 87 now and Gamecock ladies basketball and the WNBA is appointment television for him. He says he likes it better than the men now because the women, due to their lack of size and strength, are forced to focus more on fundamentals and don't cut corners like the guys. I am not there yet with my Dad. I am mainly a Gamecock ladies fan when it comes to women's basketball, but I appreciate what the ladies do. I even watch the big games for the ladies like the WNBA Finals. I just don't get it when men try to put the ladies down by continuously stating the obvious that they are not as fast or strong as the men.

Great post.

 

[YankeeRooster]

I know you’re cool because you called me dude — that’s a “telltale” sign. It also means you can’t go to your left.

Using that “dude” dialect clearly designates you as the best white basketball player in your private school.

I can take the 6’7” center AND you boyo! Make ‘em, take ‘em to 10 for a 40oz.?

“Thunderstick” says it all……drives a Camaro I would bet.

 

[YankeeRooster]

I quit following our WBB team when I realized our coach was a race baiter. There I said it. Ban me if you must.

Why are you in this WBB thread if you quit following? You should be banned btw, and you sound just like half the LSU posters on the net, Gratz.

 

[Lurker123]

Why are you in this WBB thread if you quit following?

Probably because the title of thread made clear it was about not taking them seriously.

 

[Lurker123]

As some have suggested, WBB is a different game, not a lesser game.

I agree it's a different game, but I can't argee it's not "lesser". Avg vs avg, or top vs top, the women could not compete well vs their male counterparts.