USC & UCLA to B1G by 2024; conferences react; TV contracts thread

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This was answered today. If I'm Nebraska, Rutgers or Maryland I'd be pretty furious.

A little surprised by this - but then again, USC and perhaps UCLA to a certain extent, guarantee TV viewers in the LA Media - Rutgers was not viewed highly in the NYC market and Maryland is not viewed highly in the DC market - unless they are playing the top level teams. Nebraska pretty much owns the Omaha/Lincoln/North Platte market no matter who they play, but let's face it- that is not a lot of TV sets.
 

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A little surprised by this - but then again, USC and perhaps UCLA to a certain extent, guarantee TV viewers in the LA Media - Rutgers was not viewed highly in the NYC market and Maryland is not viewed highly in the DC market - unless they are playing the top level teams. Nebraska pretty much owns the Omaha/Lincoln/North Platte market no matter who they play, but let's face it- that is not a lot of TV sets.
I think because USC and UCLA are being used as negotiating chips for a media deal that's under discussion is a big factor. I doubt they'd like the conference using them as leverage to get more money but then not seeing an equal slice. I don't recall if any of the prior additions came in with similar opportune timing.
 

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I think because USC and UCLA are being used as negotiating chips for a media deal that's under discussion is a big factor. I doubt they'd like the conference using them as leverage to get more money but then not seeing an equal slice. I don't recall if any of the prior additions came in with similar opportune timing.

Did PSU get full money in '93 or did we wait? I don't know.
 

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This business of Cal demanding an explanation is just a dog and pony show to save face. The whole world already knows the explanation... to get more money.
It's not just Cal or Cal alums demanding an explanation. The UC Regents have the final say in just about every aspect of UC schools. They literally OWN, in their capacity as Regents, each and every UC campus. I'm thinking that the Regents could likely prevent UCLA from joining the Big Ten if they wished, and it will not shock me if the Regents toss a big monkey wrench into UCLA's move the to Big Ten. I have no idea what that would do to the Trojans and, frankly, do not care all that much.

The departure of SC and UCLA is depressing to me as an alum of a Pac 12 school, but this conference realignment stuff is FAR from the last change that is going to occur with respect to CFB. It looks to me like the NIL rules mean schools will effectively be buying players for the foreseeable future. I hope that it turns out to be for the best, but I doubt it. It looks like the CFB world is becoming increasingly bifurcated, into a group of schools that have the means and the willingness to do what it takes to compete for a football NC, and a separate (and much larger) group that has neither.
 
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Notre Dame, Stanford, Oregon, Washington

Inside source indicating that's what the Bigten is shooting to add by mid October. If that happens Bigten would move to 4 five team pods with 2 semi final games and then a conference final game. Speculation that too much TV money will be generated for Notre Dame to turn down.
 
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Notre Dame, Stanford, Oregon, Washington

Inside source indicating that's what the Bigten is shooting to add by mid October. If that happens Bigten would move to 4 five team pods with 2 semi final games and then a conference final game. Speculation that too much TV money will be generated for Notre Dame to turn down.

Who is this “inside source”? Inside what?
 

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Notre Dame, Stanford, Oregon, Washington

Inside source indicating that's what the Bigten is shooting to add by mid October. If that happens Bigten would move to 4 five team pods with 2 semi final games and then a conference final game. Speculation that too much TV money will be generated for Notre Dame to turn down.

If those additions happened, I could deal with it. OTOH, I can't say I'd be behind a four team conference playoff. That would lead to a potential 16 game season for the conference champ if they reached the NC game. Add another game or two if the playoff expands. That's a crap load of games for a college team. Then what?? Play until mid-January?
 

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Inside source indicating that's what the Bigten is shooting to add by mid October. If that happens Bigten would move to 4 five team pods with 2 semi final games and then a conference final game. Speculation that too much TV money will be generated for Notre Dame to turn down.

Kenan Thompson Reaction GIF by Saturday Night Live
 

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If those additions happened, I could deal with it. OTOH, I can't say I'd be behind a four team conference playoff. That would lead to a potential 16 game season for the conference champ if they reached the NC game. Add another game or two if the playoff expands. That's a crap load of games for a college team. Then what?? Play until mid-January?
FCS teams can handle it
 

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If those additions happened, I could deal with it. OTOH, I can't say I'd be behind a four team conference playoff. That would lead to a potential 16 game season for the conference champ if they reached the NC game. Add another game or two if the playoff expands. That's a crap load of games for a college team. Then what?? Play until mid-January?

Winner plays SEC Champ. Done and done.
 

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Who is this “inside source”? Inside what?
Just passing on the information. The guy has been very accurate. Gave hints about USC before it happened. We will see soon enough how accurate he is. If those four are added they would most likely come in as full partners. However, if Notre Dame balks yet again, they might still add the other three at reduced TV monies, much like Rutgers and Maryland. Unclear if a space would be left for ND down the road and how long they would be willing to push adding the other three, waiting for ND.
 

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Notre Dame, Stanford, Oregon, Washington

Inside source indicating that's what the Bigten is shooting to add by mid October. If that happens Bigten would move to 4 five team pods with 2 semi final games and then a conference final game. Speculation that too much TV money will be generated for Notre Dame to turn down.

Where there is smoke.. and the air is filled with it.

I understand the arguments that ND can wait to see things shake out, but guess what, things are shaking out quickly.

The B1G rights are being negotiated and it appears that the B1G, of all things, is steps ahead of the SEC. They have a bunch of brand name teams, they go coast to coast, they can offer games at any hour or day a media partner could ask for, and they look to have options to offer the biggest payday.

The SEC will have to respond. In the criticism you hear from some SEC writers and media there is a bit of resentment that the B1G is calling the shots. How can it be that the SEC is in reaction mode?

It does not make sense for these two conferences to add teams beyond a total membership of 20 for each. The pieces of the pie begin to shrink. It also makes too much sense for them to work out a gentlemen’s agreement for a mutually beneficial playoff structure, capping team additions and deciding what the landscape will look like.

The antitrust and tortius interference lawyers will have a field day with all this.

If I was King I would add ND, Oregon, Stanford and North Carolina to the B1G. Let the SEC add FSU, Miami, Colorado, and UVA. Have a 16 team playoff, 8 teams from each conference.

Cap on pay for play and those of you who hated the old system have your bright shining new version of college football. It will stink to high heaven, but the member teams and players can afford gas masks.

Who loses?

1. The 98 or so D1 teams left stranded
2. The tens of thousands of student athletes who will see their scholarship opportunities gradually disappear

Who can stop this?

1. Lawyers
2. Faculty and administration resentful of business interests overwhelming academic priorities
 
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From another source...Arizona and Colorado to be offered future membership to Big12, next week. We will see how accurate that is soon enough.
 
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