USMNT 2022 World Cup Qualifying Thread

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What's everyone's predictions here? I think they beat Panama at home, but probably lose the two on the road. They finish third in the hex. Thoughts?
 
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The McKenzie injury has me nervous. He's been our best and most consistent performer. We need a couple of guys to step up and make plays when they matter.

Right now I think we go 1-1-1.
 

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What's everyone's predictions here? I think they beat Panama at home, but probably lose the two on the road. They finish third in the hex. Thoughts?

the injuries, especially to McKennie, are concerning. I think a lot depends on their 1st game in Mexico. The USMNT record there is not very encouraging.

Perhaps I'm hopelessly optimistic, but I think they'll go 2-1 in the 3 matches, especially if they win on Thursday night.

I'm looking forward to the matches.
 
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the injuries, especially to McKennie, are concerning. I think a lot depends on their 1st game in Mexico. The USMNT record there is not very encouraging.

Perhaps I'm hopelessly optimistic, but I think they'll go 2-1 in the 3 matches, especially if they win on Thursday night.

I'm looking forward to the matches.

Yeah, I'm pumped. I told my wife tonight I'm trying to work ahead these next two nights so I can relax and watch that match Thursday. It never really works out that way. I'm sure something will pop up Thursday now.
 
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Yeah, I'm pumped. I told my wife tonight I'm trying to work ahead these next two nights so I can relax and watch that match Thursday. It never really works out that way. I'm sure something will pop up Thursday now.
It’ll be a late night for me I think on Thursday…I’ll likely record it to watch after basketball. Hoping it goes much better than the game in Canada that I also suffered through late-night.
 
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What's everyone's predictions here? I think they beat Panama at home, but probably lose the two on the road. They finish third in the hex. Thoughts?
I only follow soccer for the World Cup or Olympics but the injuries make it even harder to get a read. Looks like Everyone controls their destiny. It’s crazy how the games are all intertwined.

I think Canada wins game 1 to essentially eliminate the 5th place team. There must be over 10 scenarios for Mexico and the USA to advance. I’m
confident the USA can get a tie or win but I’m always cautiously optimistic.
 

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I won't rehash the importance of McKinnie's absence in the midfield. Even though Dest is a fullback (outside defender), his injury really hurts our attacking prowess given that we don't have a dependable #9 and rely on outside backs and wingers progressing the ball into the final third and even to score for themselves. All that said, however, we cannot underrate the importance of Aaronson's injury to this team. He gave Berhalter flexibility on the wing to be a spot starter or to be an effective sub. With his absence, it affects how Gio Reyna, who they already were planning to manage the minutes for, can be deployed.

Up until the point of his injury in the fall, Berhalter used Reyna as a winger to compliment Pulisic on the other side. However, that is not his natural position at Dortmund—Gio is a starter for a club that has some world class players in it and he primarily plays centrally in the midfield in an attacking style. Theoretically, Gio (who has already been fielding questions about his comfort level of playing centrally for the US) could be slotted in the midfield to help fill the void McKinnie's injury leaves behind, but that would have been a lot easier to do in Aaronson were fit and able to be used as a tandem with Weah. Now with less options on the wing, and remembering that Gio is not likely to be a 90-min player for the US quite yet, will Berhalter use him more on the wing like he has or will he drop him into the midfield? It's an interesting question to think about, but I think Aaronson's absence complicates the picture a bit more for Berhalter.
 

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the injuries, especially to McKennie, are concerning. I think a lot depends on their 1st game in Mexico. The USMNT record there is not very encouraging.

Perhaps I'm hopelessly optimistic, but I think they'll go 2-1 in the 3 matches, especially if they win on Thursday night.

I'm looking forward to the matches.
Just get 4 points somehow in 3 games. I'm not counting on points in Mexico, but hopefully we can take 4 in the other 2 matches. Any point in Mexico is a great point....no matter the year or injury situation.
 

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What's everyone's predictions here? I think they beat Panama at home, but probably lose the two on the road. They finish third in the hex. Thoughts?
Final 3 will be L, W, and a D I think. Ticos are tough, but I think we can squeeze out a D there. I'm so pumped for Sunday night as I anticipate it being electric in there.
 
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Anyone think it helps the USA to have 5 subs? I believe the sub rules were changed. I’m not sure what Mexico’s depth is like but at the very least we can have 2 fresh players playing Dest and McKinnie’s spot.
 

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I actually feel more confident about pulling off a draw at the Azteca than I do in Costa Rica. We are always up for playing our arch-rivals in Mexico City, and have drawn them the last two times we played there. No matter the team we have brought to Costa Rica, however, we just do not play well there. It's been a total of zero points for us in Costa Rica this century. Things really depend on whether or not we or Costa Rica go into that final match still needing points to qualify.
 
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Anyone think it helps the USA to have 5 subs? I believe the sub rules were changed. I’m not sure what Mexico’s depth is like but at the very least we can have 2 fresh players playing Dest and McKinnie’s spot.
The freshness level of the replacement players depends on how much the players have been playing for their club teams recently. If we are talking about MLS guys being the replacements, they might be a little more fresh since their season just started a few weeks ago; but, if we are talking about using European-based players then that depends on how much in recent weeks they have been getting minutes since they are far into their season. I think I'm most concerned for how Berhalter will try to fit replacements into a very narrow way of thinking since he has a fairly loyal commitment to his tactics. Doing so may not always put the most talented guys still on the active roster on the pitch together.

Mexico always have depth of players who can play their technical brand of soccer.
 

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The freshness level of the replacement players depends on how much the players have been playing for their club teams recently. If we are talking about MLS guys being the replacements, they might be a little more fresh since their season just started a few weeks ago; but, if we are talking about using European-based players then that depends on how much in recent weeks they have been getting minutes since they are far into their season. I think I'm most concerned for how Berhalter will try to fit replacements into a very narrow way of thinking since he has a fairly loyal commitment to his tactics. Doing so may not always put the most talented guys still on the active roster on the pitch together.

Mexico always have depth of players who can play their technical brand of soccer.
👋 are you able to explain the USA tactics? They seem to play a more skilled game than in the past. The other teams in CONCACAF seem to play the more physical game
 
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👋 are you able to explain the USA tactics? They seem to play a more skilled game than in the past. The other teams in CONCACAF seem to play the more physical game
Some of Gregg Berhalter’s concepts I quite like in theory. But in practice, I’m still not entirely convinced we have all of the type of players to successfully bear as much fruit with it as might be hoped for.

Berhalter likes to have his team play out of the back (the ‘keeper and defenders are expected to advance the ball primarily through passing it on the ground instead of launching hopeful long-balls forward). Maintaining possession is prized from the back through the midfield.

He also clearly likes to have his outside fullbacks get high up into the attack. That helps us at the moment because we currently lack production from the striker/central forward position.

There are times when it seems like they are to attack quickly and then other times when it seems they really slow down things just to maintain possession (perhaps too slow). Berhalter prefers his team to dominate possession of the ball more than I’ve seen from previous coaches. However, this manager has also talked about wanting more “verticality” out of his team—a more direct and quicker play into the attack. He likes to have players who have some pace and can stretch the backline of the opponents and open up space for the midfield. So, the attack has not fully looked consistent under his tenure so far, but I’d say he does want to see possession turned up the pitch with decisive passes and off-ball movement from forwards who stretch the defense of the opposition. The question has always remained, though, do we have the type of players that approach best fits with?

When the opponents have the ball, Gregg wants his team to press (pressure the opponent with the ball) fairly high up the field in the opponent’s half. This has a risk and reward to it. It can cause your opponents to play more quickly than they want, thus forcing mistakes and turnovers (which has resulted is a few goals for us in qualifying). But, it can also fatigue your players a bit more quickly. Plus, applying the press really only works well if the entire team is moving in concert with each other, shifting around to cover for zones on the field that inevitably get vacated by teammates who go to pressure the ball.

Berhalter also seems to be very detailed with his instructions and expectations for each player, to the point that some guys (especially when still just learning his system) were visibly thinking too much during the run of play at times. I think a lot of the guys know enough by now what is expected of them. We indeed are playing a more technical style these days due to the higher caliber of players we now are producing and bringing in and because Gregg’s tactical approach requires it. The biggest problem the manager and the team still face, however, is a general lack of creating threatening chances on goal (interesting side note: lack of goals seems to somewhat follow Gregg’s managing career). Part of that is the problem we have at central forward, and I think part of that is on the manager to figure out with the talent he does have.
 
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Final 3 will be L, W, and a D I think. Ticos are tough, but I think we can squeeze out a D there. I'm so pumped for Sunday night as I anticipate it being electric in there.

This US squad has won four straight vs. Costa Rica, so that's a good sign. Most of those were friendlies.

But I believe Costa Rica has won nine straight against the US at home in World Cup qualifying or something like that. They struggle there.
 
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This US squad has won four straight vs. Costa Rica, so that's a good sign. Most of those were friendlies.

But I believe Costa Rica has won nine straight against the US at home in World Cup qualifying or something like that. They struggle there.

According to this, it's nine in a row in WCQ. Last time US got points there was in the 80s.

 

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I only see this game being broadcast on Univision ... there's really no way to watch it with English-speaking broadcasters?
 

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Solid 45 minutes, but the cards are really concerning…ref is being liberal showing them, and we absolutely can’t afford to have Adams pick one up
 

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Solid 45 minutes, but the cards are really concerning…ref is being liberal showing them, and we absolutely can’t afford to have Adams pick one up

they are concerning for the USMNT, thought I felt each card was warranted.
 
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